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    Angry Defkalion Theory

    At ICCF17, Defkalion proposed a paper about their vision of the theory behind LENR.

    Here is the DGT article for ICCF17, and the PDF converted version (on lenrnews.eu dropbox).

    The slides shown at NIWeek might also help to understand the key points of their theory.

    It seems that DGT theory mix many elements fro different théories...
    Discussion welcome.
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    Angry Re: Defkalion Theory

    In this article, an extract of DGT paper quote the key hypothesis of Defkalion theoretical vision:
    The common nuclear active environment in which LENR occurs is proposed to be vacancies in the crystal lattice of a heavy metal of a critical size and geometry where excited atoms of hydrogen interact. This process results in different transmutation paths, followed by a resonance process that dissipates energy by emission.
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    Re: Defkalion Theory

    In an answer on their forum Defkalion explain how they worked about the Rydberg State Hydrogen theory, get convinced and optimized the reactor under that asumption.
    We answered to a similar question during ICCF17 as follows:

    At the beginning someone from our R&D team suggested the idea to "excite" atomic hydrogen into its Rydberg state and then to build a proper environment/geometry to polarize the RSH atoms towards the NAE in order to perform a controlled reaction. Instead of characterizing such an idea as a nonsense and drop it (as we did with several others), we decided:

    a. To do the maths, using existing models proposed in the literature, to check if this is feasible. Three (out of many) important of such literature references have been listed in the reference section of the paper we presented in ICCF17.
    b. We built a test apparatus to find out the best (for our purpose) method to "excite" atomic hydrogen to its Rydberg state, using known plasma techniques in the literature, avoiding the laser based techniques for technical and cost/effective reasons
    c. We checked the "production" of RSH atoms in this test apparatus and some important of RSH produced atom characteristics, using fluorescence spectroscopy and zero kinetic energy (ZEKE) photoelectron spectroscopy (with the help of an expert lab we work with in this field).
    d. Based on the results of c above, we checked various configurations of the components and geometry of test apparatus to define the one that fit better to our mathematical models
    e. Finally we moved the most suitable configuration into our Hyperion lab reactors that they were then equipped with a "triggering" mechanism for the LENR using RSH atoms, as described in the paper we released in ICCF17. Hyperion lab reactors are equipped with a "spy eye" (as you can see in Appendix of the paper we presented in ICCF17) in order to perform periodic spectroscopy checks on indicators of such RSH atoms "behavior" in their environment during LENR.

    What followed was engineering, micro-engineering and material solving problems.
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    Re: Defkalion Theory

    Another interesting post about Theory on DGT Forum.
    I notice the following remarks:
    As for the theory/models that may be involved, Kim's optical theorem-experiment#3 proposed (as presented in ICCF17) and some of Hagelstein's modeling approaches, are a sound base for further theoretical work.
    Maybe because they work with Vysotskii, they seems quite negative on WL (at least for the initial activation phase).
    Like, and maybe because of, NI they seems to be interested by Kim BEC theory.
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    Today on peter gluck Blog, commenting his article (which critics aggressiveness against Widom-Larsen Theory and similar religious wars), John Hadjichristos the CTO of Defkalion made that comment :
    John HadjichristosWe endorse Peter's position 100%.

    We do not know if Be or B appearing within Hyperion reactors is the result of nucleosynthesis as per W-L theory or a result of Cluster Decay or something else, and it is very difficult to check which theoretical hypothesis is correct to explain their presence with existing conventional instrumentation. There is only one way to find out "what is really going on" in there: built better instruments (such for example as a real time mass spectrometer around a working reactor) and to cooperate. Then better theories may arise.
    Absolute truths are a painful illusion for modern physics. This stands for "LENR" too.
    John Hadjichristos
    Interesting claim of B and Be presence in Defkalion reactor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlainCo View Post
    Another interesting post about Theory on DGT Forum.
    I notice the following remarks:
    Maybe because they work with Vysotskii, they seems quite negative on WL (at least for the initial activation phase).
    Like, and maybe because of, NI they seems to be interested by Kim BEC theory.
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    yes, the forum of DGT have been dismantled when moving to Canada...
    “Mainstream science will discover LENR in the Wall-Streat Journal” (me, quite infuriated)
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