LENR-Cities : an event "for industrialists" in Italy, during February 2015

  • LENR-Cities announce anotheer event after Oxford Conference on Jan 10-11th. It will be in Italy, during February 2015 and targeted to Industrialists.


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  • There is more precision on their Website
    http://lenr-cities.com/LC-Entreprise.html
    or in that news
    http://lenr-cities.com/wplc/?p=70


    about LEI, "LENR Industry" there is this description




    LEI is not a company, but a project, like is the "reference Lab".
    It is there to propose an "interface" for the ecosystem toward industrialists...
    Like for the reference lab, a newcomer don't talk to individual researchers, or companies, but to such an entity who represent the ecosystem, and know your language.
    On the other side, the members of the ecosystems are not alone to talk to the industrialists, and the LEI is an interface too. Like the reference lab propose "research program", LEI propose "industrial programs".


    The model is interesting, and remind me the principle of urbanization of IT System. LENR-Cities looks like a communication bus for technology, funding, industrial projects, ...

  • Dear gentlemen,
    Let’s have a look at Italy and LENR events:


    1. February 2015 - Italy - an event " for industrialists "


    2. April 2015 – Italy – an ICCF-19 event.


    Probably it looks like that soon they are going to announce this is Italy to be number One in the world for LENR and these are Italians to be first to start with cold fusion / LENR technologies. But as we know, mainly any technology is based on the registered patent. And from this point of view, let me say, some persons have hold full-fledged and technically grounded LENR patent, which was registered by European Patent Organization EPO in 2009 and is valid in Europe. Please visit EPO site for this:


    https://register.epo.org/espacenet/regviewer?AP=02751927&CY=EP&LG=en&DB=REG



    So, we can consider a whole situation in the field of LENR from this point of view as well. Nowadays everyone is speaking about Mr. Rossi and his E – Cat. Firstly Mr. Rossi is really worthy of great praise, we are absolutely sure about it. But what about patents of Mr. Rossi and Europe? We do respect Mr. Rossi, he is an Italian, and Italy is a part of Europe. So, it is very natural the patents to be registered firstly in Europe, isn’t it?. Have anyone seen it? ( Please do not mention the Italian patent - 2011, it has not any technical expertise and is not confirmed ) Could anyone give any ideas?


    GEM Lab.

  • Dear gentlemen,
    Let’s have a look at Italy and LENR events:


    1. February 2015 - Italy - an event " for industrialists "


    2. April 2015 – Italy – an ICCF-19 event.


    Probably it looks like that soon they are going to announce this is Italy to be number One in the world for LENR and these are Italians to be first to start with cold fusion / LENR technologies. But as we know, mainly any technology is based on the registered patent. And from this point of view, let me say, some persons have hold full-fledged and technically grounded LENR patent, which was registered by European Patent Organization EPO in 2009 and is valid in Europe. Please visit EPO site for this:
    https://register.epo.org/espacenet/regviewer?AP=02751927&CY=EP&LG=en&DB=REG



    So, we can consider a whole situation in the field of LENR from this point of view as well. Nowadays everyone is speaking about Mr. Rossi and his E – Cat. Firstly Mr. Rossi is really worthy of great praise, we are absolutely sure about it. But what about patents of Mr. Rossi and Europe? We do respect Mr. Rossi, he is an Italian, and Italy is a part of Europe. So, it is very natural the patents to be registered firstly in Europe, isn’t it?. Have anyone seen it? ( Please do not mention the Italian patent - 2011, it has not any technical expertise and is not confirmed ) Could anyone give any ideas?

  • Interesting patent.
    I did not study it enough, but it seems based on similar ideas as E-cat.


    What is the history of that patent ? is it based on the work of well known scientists ? (Russian?)


    the description is more easy to read on google patents
    http://www.google.com/patents/EP1426976A1?cl=en

  • Thank you for your question. About patent history and scientific part of the project. Yes, this cold fusion / LENR patent has made it’s appearance from Russia ( smile  :).
    This is Dr. Kirkinski ( with some other persons ).Dr. Kirkinski is a professional scientist in the field of cold fusion and LENR . Why so?


    1. - Here are Dr. Kirkinski’ publications in Europhysics Letters Academic journal , since 1999:


    -Kirkinskii V.A., Novikov Yu.A. A new approach to theoretical modelling of nuclear fusion in palladium deuteride // Europhysics Letters, 1999, v. 46, No. 4.
    - Kirkinskii V.A., Drebushchak V.A., Khmelnikov A.I. Excess heat release during deuterium sorption-desorption by finely powdered palladium deuteride.// Europhysics Letters, 2002, v. 58, No. 3.
    - Kirkinskii V.A., Novikov Yu.A. Modelling of dynamic screening effects in solid state. Europhysics Letters, 2005, v. 67, No. 3.


    2. - Here is Dr. Kirkinski’ participation at ICCF international conferences for cold fusion, since 2002, in China and France:


    Kirkinskii V.A., Novikov Yu.A. Numerical calculations of cold fusion in metal deuterides. In the book: Proceedings of 9th International Conference on Cold Fusion, Beijing, China, 2002.
    Kirkinskii V.A., Novikov Yu.A. Fusion reaction probability in iron hydride and a problem of nucleosynthesis in the Earth interior. In the book: Proceedings of 9th International Conference on Cold Fusion, Beijing, China, 2002.
    Kirkinskii V.A., Drebushchak V.A., Khmelnikov A.I. Experimental evidence of excess heat output during deuterium sorption-desorption in palladium deuteride. In the book: Proceedings of 9th International Conference on Cold Fusion, Beijing, China, 2002.
    Kirkinskii V.A., Novikov Yu.A. Calculations of nuclear reactions probability in a crystal lattice of titanium deuteride. In the book: Proceedings of 10th International Conference on Cold Fusion, Marseilles, France, 2004 (in print).


    3. - Here is Dr. Kirkinski’ another patent for cold fusion / LENR. This patent is given by The Eurasian Patent Organization (EAPO) in 2006:


    - http://www.eapatis.com/ruSearc…po2006/TIT_PDF/006525.pdf



    This is about the history of the patent in brief. But anyone is welcome to ask any questions. And please let me ask my question again. This is the same question and this is about my curiosity ( smile :) . What kind of other cold fusion / LENR patents are registered in Europe? And when? Any ideas?

  • What I understood from quickly reading the patent is that it is based on palladium powder, gas permeation, high temperature.


    beside the usage of nickel vs palladium, is there reasonable chance that E-cat infringe that patent ?
    Can the two technology live together without patent conflict?


    can you describe in few sentence how would look and work a reactor based on that patent ? is ther more than heat, powder and gas permeation (the patent is hard to read, it seems more complex)?


    are there prototypes, third party tests,.


    Is Gem Lab preparing to develop technology around that patent ?

  • that is an idea (let us discuss by mail)


    note that Europhysics Letters is a peer reviewed journal
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPL_(journal)



    Krikinskii is active both in theory and experiments.


    NET publish an article from 2002 about a model of cold fusion
    http://newenergytimes.com/v2/s…Models-Of-Cold-Fusion.pdf


    Jed published among other Calculations Of Nuclear Reactions Probability In A Crystal Lattice Of Titanium Deuteride from ICCF
    http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Kirkinskiicalculatio.pdf
    ...


    About experiments I fall on that article
    http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Kirkinskiiexperiment.pdf
    which remind me some pictures of the patent


    looking for information on Kirkinskii, I fall on that review of Russian work in LENR
    http://newenergytimes.com/v2/s…-LipsonChernov-Slides.pdf



    very interesting.