ICCF19 - Vladimir Vysotskii - Biological remediation of radioactive cesium, Thread for discussion of Biological Transmutations

  • I had completely forgot that Vysostkii and Kornilova had written a chapter in the latest edition of Biberian's Advances in Cold Fusion.


    https://www.sciencedirect.com/…/pii/B9780128159446000129


    I found a very recent paper of other Russian team that quotes research of Vysostkii and Kornilova and proposes a way in which the transmutations could be explained, which involves the capacity of living organisms of creating an unusual, but known, state of Hydrogen...


    http://www.joslyon.com/wp-cont…/08/Lyon_10_1.pdf#page=12


    Abstract: Background and Objective. It was previously shown that hydrogen atoms can be in unusual subatomic states with a “shell” localization of the electron-proton pair and a lower ionization potential. Such a state can be predicted in the proton-electron system in accordance with the de Broglie formula if we take into account the intrinsic energy of the quantum motion of the electron. During the formation of hydrogen subatoms, characteristic recombination radiation with a wavelength of 206 nm should be observed. The vital activity of biosystems contribute to the formation of hydrogensubatoms and they are necessary for their development. In this regard, it is possible to prove the existence of such radiation. Materials and Methods. Using a fiber-optic spectrometer, the ultraviolet radiation of indoor plants and the radiation of a yeast culture solution were measured. Results. It was experimentally shown that during photosynthesis in a number of houseplants, characteristic ultraviolet radiation with a wavelength of 206 nm is observed, the same characteristic radiation is also observed during metabolism in a yeast culture solu-tion. In this regard, irradiation with characteristic ultraviolet radiation of microorganisms should, apparently, lead to a suppression of metabolism, which is more effective than irradiation with a full spectrum. The idea of hydrogen subatoms, in our opinion, allows us to consistently explain the results of numerous experiments on the implemen-tation of controlled transmutation of isotopes in numerous growing microbiological objects.

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

  • There is no doubt that the potassium transmutation to calcium can be attained easily. But where the heck should a chicken get enough potassium ????? Could you try to show as a potential source for e.g. at least 2 grams/day..


  • Ahlfors  LeBob

    The hens do eagerly peck mica from the soil, and mica contains potassium - a single step below calcium in the standard table of elements. It appears that the hens may transmute some of the potassium to calcium. ... Hens denied calcium but not potassium, stay perfectly healthy and lay perfectly normal eggs.



    Book Review


    Biological Transmutations


    by C. Louis Kervran ISBN 0-916508-47-1, $18.50 Paperback, 163 pp. Happiness Press, 1980 (Reprinted 1998)


    Review by Eugene Mallove


    From Infinite Energy #34, November/December 2000

    Reading this translation and compilation of a number of Prof. Louis Kervran’s pre-1970 works is very disturbing, producing the disorientation that accompanies a possible deep paradigm shift in science. Kervran (1901-1983), a medical scientist and engineer with a high official position in the French research and occupational health community, had a life-long interest in the possibility of biological transmutations. His curiosity apparently began in his youth when he watched the hens pecking at specks of mica in the farmyard. His later professional observations concerned (in one small part) the anomalous re-appearance of robust calcium-bearing eggshells in calcium-deprived chickens that had been administered dietary mica (a potassium-rich mineral). Over a century earlier (in 1799), French chemist Louis Nicolas Vauquelin had noted this. The Kervran bio-transmutation story and its background is summarized eloquently in “Alchemists in the Garden,” a chapter of the best-selling book The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Tompkins and the late Christopher Bird. - Eugene Mallove


    https://www.infinite-energy.co…/bookreview_biotrans.html

  • 5grams of neutrinos would vaporize the chicken before getting "turned" into potassium/calcium 😂😉. Sleep well.

    Given that the neutrino flux on earth is apparently about 70 trillion per square cm per second, and there are on the order of about a hundred thousand skin cells per square cm, that's almost a million neutrinos passing through a cell even second. As Vezzini would say, Inconceivable!

  • I think this video might be of interest for this topic, it’s quite encompassing of all the history of biological transmutations research.


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  • New video from See the Pattern following up the development of the ideas on biological transmutations, here it delves more in the hypothesis put forward in the study don’t by request of the US Military in 1978. It proposes a very appealing visualization of how the “mitochondrial particle accelerator” could work.


    It is nice that the Structured Atom Model visualizations for the nucleons is being used, kudos to Edo .


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  • New video from See the Pattern following up the development of the ideas on biological transmutations, here it delves more in the hypothesis put forward in the study don’t by request of the US Military in 1978. It proposes a very appealing visualization of how the “mitochondrial particle accelerator” could work.


    It is nice that the Structured Atom Model visualizations for the nucleons is being used, kudos to Edo .


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    I would like to see some reactions here about this video actually. this is a most intriguing video and paper. The conclusion of the paper is quite clear, transmutations are happening in biology!

  • Speaking of Visotdkiy and Kornilova bacterial transmutation, there are couple of controversies surrounding them. First, there was failed trial performed by the unit of Rosatom. It was explained that Rosatom was not following the protocol and there was allegedly a successful second trial.


    What is more interesting is that Visotskiy book was translated to Japanese. Japanese have huge problem with radioactive water from Fukushima and bacteria were thought to be a perfect fit to dispose of it. That was long time and so far no positive news from there.

  • I would like to see some reactions here about this video actually. this is a most intriguing video and paper. The conclusion of the paper is quite clear, transmutations are happening in biology!

    I can say that in biology, within the study of the mistery of how mithocondria works (paired with how photosynthesis works) has been suggested (mostly whispered or indirectly stated as hints of a thermodynamic anomaly) more than once that something "unusual" at the atomic level could be happening, for a long time, but the only ones that openly played with idea are the ones we already know of.


    What I found fascinating in this video is that a 3D molecular arrangement is suggested, a first that I know of, that could help explain how this could do the work, and explain how the "energy balance" could work without mithocondria bursting in plasma.

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

  • Speaking of Visotdkiy and Kornilova bacterial transmutation, there are couple of controversies surrounding them. First, there was failed trial performed by the unit of Rosatom. It was explained that Rosatom was not following the protocol and there was allegedly a successful second trial.


    What is more interesting is that Visotskiy book was translated to Japanese. Japanese have huge problem with radioactive water from Fukushima and bacteria were thought to be a perfect fit to dispose of it. That was long time and so far no positive news from there.

    Engineering any biotechnological remediation program takes time.


    Bacteria needs to be fed, and doing it at large scale sounds much easier than it is.


    As an example of laboratory proven to large scale use of bacteria that can be used as a gauge is the case of copper biological lixiviation. This was never controversial at all, in the sense that was provent at lab scale and by all means it was going to work at large scale. Yet, Chilean mining companies have been developing the bacterial copper lixiviation from low grade materials for decades now, it requires complex irrigation and aeration systems, it works fairly well now (after way too many dissapointments and bakrupted start ups), but it took decades to get the first pilot plant with decent yields.

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

  • Engineering any biotechnological remediation program takes time.


    Bacteria needs to be fed, and doing it at large scale sounds much easier than it is.


    As an example of laboratory proven to large scale use of bacteria that can be used as a gauge is the case of copper biological lixiviation. This was never controversial at all, in the sense that was provent at lab scale and by all means it was going to work at large scale. Yet, Chilean mining companies have been developing the bacterial copper lixiviation from low grade materials for decades now, it requires complex irrigation and aeration systems, it works fairly well now (after way too many dissapointments and bakrupted start ups), but it took decades to get the first pilot plant with decent yields.

    Aren't lixiviation and transmutation two very different things. Reminds me of propaganda rhetoric where meaning of things is often switched. Why don't you bring in bread, cheese, wine making examples to support idea that bacteria can be used to remediate nuclear waste?>

  • Aren't lixiviation and transmutation two very different things

    In specific terms yes, but you are asking why a bacteriological process based in the work of Visotskii and Kornilova has not been adopted by the Japanese to clean up Fukushima. You imply that this is because the process doesn’t work, and I am saying that the slow adoption of any bacteriological based process is not due to the process itself but because of the engineering challenge to implement it at large scale, as bacteria are heterotrophic and it needs to be provided the conditions to thrive (food, temperature and respiratory gases). Scaling from Petri dish to millions of cubic meters of radioactive waste is a huge challenge.

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

  • Curbina I agree with you but based on Kornilova interview, she had pronounced it as a done deal. So somebody here is being unrealistic. Sometimes scientists must get down to Earth and clearly show investors how to turn their $1 into $1000 instead of pretending to be tired of winning and asking for money for another decade of research.

  • Curbina I agree with you but based on Kornilova interview, she had pronounced it as a done deal. So somebody here is being unrealistic. Sometimes scientists must get down to Earth and clearly show investors how to turn their $1 into $1000 instead of pretending to be tired of winning and asking for money for another decade of research.

    Can You point me to the specific interview? I need the context for having the chance to make a proper comment.


    Anyway, I would say that a technology transfer in this case is merely having the correct strain of bacteria and knowing how to keep it growing. From there to the application to radioactive waste, All the engineering and scaling up is a completely different matter.

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

  • Curbina "

    То есть разработана технология для утилизации жидких радиоактивных отходов и проверки всех жизненных способностей высушенной синтрофной ассоциации (или биомассы, как мы ее иногда называем) для того, чтобы действительно активно работать, и, в случае необходимости, можно было использовать в качестве аварийных комплектов.


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