New article on LENR in Aftenposten. It starts with a review of latest events (E-cat patent, Rossi's claims).
Main content is a Brillouin CEO (Robert Godes: @BEC ) interview.
http://www.aftenposten.no/fakt…i-et-helt-ar-8160528.html (translated by google)
There are few interesting numbers cited. Brillouin was funded at 65 million NOK (9.6mn USD), and today Robert godes announce that he need funding for material research, to find material that allow efficient LENR, maybe 4 million NOK but up to 20 million may be needed.
there is also moderate skeptical section, with answer by Robert Godes.
The seminar organised but TEKNA and NTVA is reported, as evidence of some researchers interest.
this article is reasonably cautious, with skeptical points taken, but quite positive globally.
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Is the energy source cold fusion just wishful thinking, or climate revolution the world yearns? The Research Council rejects not to spend money. Physicists believe the phenomenon could not possibly exist. The question of whether cold fusion is, is about to become a science thriller of the rare.
-Humanity could not have existed if cold fusion had been possible.
Professor of nuclear physics at the University of Bergen, Dieter Röhrich says that this is not something he believes. It is a fact, as it cannot be asked questions by. But other professionals says that he, and most of his colleagues, is not open to the undeniable experimental data.
A long series of trials shows that there still exists a possibly source of energy which, according to current theories of physics should be quite impossible. It pointed out among other physicist Stay Höistad at Uppsala University to Aftenposten before summer, although he also points out that the conclusive evidence currently missing.
Climate crisis solution?
When Aftenposten wrote about cold fusion, also called LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reaction). This startling new nuclear energy source will give the world unlimited energy, without the need for fuel of significance and completely free of environmentally harmful emissions. Alternatively, is it not at all.
Norwegian defence research establishment believe the technology is so interesting that you have to examine it further. The door is ajar, at the same time as some of their own scientists believe that the technology is up. Aftenposten wrote before the summer even if the inventor Andrea Rossi, who tells us that he has come so far that the technology is already being tested at a secret customer in the United States. An independent, anonymous scientific source have visited the project and confirmed to Aftenposten that it exists.
In the course of the summer has come with more uverifiserte Rossi claims that both the test reactor and a new type of reactor seems even much better than we thought. The secret customer who is already started, will reportedly run the experiment for a year to see if the energy source actually measure. Six months have now passed. Rossi has a history of optimistic statements that have turned out to be too optimistic. But he can also enjoy that he was granted his first patent on his invention in the United States in late august.
An independent examination of the emeritus George H Miley at the University of Illinois reported at a Conference sponsored by NASA about advances in its work to develop as an energy source in the LENR spaceship.
More to come on the course
After we wrote about the matter recently, is even the record been made aware that the Silicon Valley-based Cold Fusion-Energy Company has been in Brillouin Norway. The company has had meetings with both politicians and several large Norwegian companies, including hot water tank manufacturer OSO Hotwater. The small Norwegian company Black Swan Technology currently working with to convey and get investors to Brillouin Energy. They offer investors to travel to the Brillouins development lab in Berkeley, so that they themselves should be able to measure their way to what the company believes is evidence of cold fusion.
-We call us for technical brokers between investor and inventor. Cold fusion has the potential to be a "game changer" for the whole world, "said Ron Korsberg in Black Swan Innovation.
He has the right?
Unlike Andrea Rossi, who did not answer questions from journalists, the Energy of the press Brillouin open. Via Skype has even record the interview the company's founder and inventor Robert Godes in the company's laboratory in California. The company has been at it since he founded it in 2009, and has so far received 69 million from investors for its development. Now they are looking for more.
In the new documentation claims the company that the results they have seen, implies that it is possible to recover energy enough to a town with 30,000 inhabitants in one year from just a glass of water. When we talk with Robert Godes, he is in no doubt that the effect he builds his work on really is. But it is not enough. It must also be commercially drivbar, and it is this company now working on.
The technology is based on that you send an electromagnetic pulse into a pressure Chamber which contains water and a nikkelgitter. According to the Godeswater ´ hypothesis thus converted into hydrogen and oxygen at normal electrolysis. Then the hydrogen through a nuclear reaction with several step (see graphic) and is converted into helium. In connection with this a tremendous amount of energy is released per heliumatom. Energy density is so high that no chemical reaction is close to being able to generate so much energy.
Since the process requires electricity, a device must emit at least three times as much energy as you submit, to be able to be commercially interesting. Otherwise, the reactor for the expensive to build. Brillouin now claims to have been given independent confirmations on both twice and four times the effort the energy from their two different technologies. The hope is to be able to have a product that is ready for commercialization of the industry partners in the course of 2016.
The big difference between Rossi and Brillouin is that Godes use electromagnetic pulse to initiate the same process. This should lead to that the process can be turned on and off instantly with a simple button, while this is not possible with Rossi.
Has even more benefits-if it is real
Brillouins reactor burning also not out. It should be able to stand for years without human intervention. One of the first objectives is therefore to make a water heater that will be fine with very little supply of energy. The company expects that the price in the first place will be 2-3 times higher than a conventional boiler, which will be earned by lower energy costs.
In the long term, part of surplus heat from a reactor could be used to generate electricity which in turn can be fed into the reactor: thus, the mechanism could be virtually even drifting. That is how the company imagines that the energy from the hydrogen in a glass of water is enough to supply a whole town with 30,000 inhabitants in a whole year. So great is namely energy density in hydrogen, if one can exploit the nuclear energy that occurs when one merges hydrogen to helium.
-The biggest obstacle now is to find the materials and processes that make it possible to produce cold fusion commercially. Unfortunately, this requires a lot of money. So the biggest reason why it goes slowly, is that we lack capital. We hope we can do it with five million dollars, but it may also require 20 million to, say, Godes.
His chief financial officer, David wants Firshein, enough that the technology was already ready for commercialization, but breaks into the interview to moderate.
-It is important that your readers understand that we are at the moment do not claim that we are ready for commercialization. What we work with are very exciting, and we believe in the intently, but realistically we are at least a year away from commercialization, "he said.
Rejected by established environmental
In the established scientific community there is great skepticism about anything that reminds about cold fusion. Aftenposten has tried to get comment from leading Norwegian core physicists, but has been rejected by several with that this is not worth the time, energy or statements on. They wonder whether cold fusion might be able to be commercially interesting or not. Basically their is that the phenomenon is completely impossible, both in practice and in theory.
Several physicists will not at all have their name mentioned in connection with the case. Professor Dieter Röhrich at the University of Bergen is the exception.
-Show me the scientific articles and data that comes with, then I'll look at them, "he said when we call. Both Brillouin and several others have lists of scientific articles published about the phenomenon. Two days later we are on the thread again to hear what he has found.
-Concepts he points out exist in physics, but the inventor Robert Godes taking them out of context and combines them in a strange, speculative and wrong way, mean core physicist Dieter at the University of Bergen Röhrich.
-These papers I would not call normal scientific articles. I have seen on the theory of Robert Godes . It does not make sense at all. The concepts he points out exist in physics, but he takes them out of context and combines them in a strange, speculative and wrong way. In physics, we have no indications that free protons are unstable, as he describes it. If he was right in that the protons so easily can be converted to helium, the world would be full of helium, the Professor points out.
-People could not been around
Röhrich shows that around 73 percent of the known universe is made up of hydrogen, while helium makes up around 25 per cent. Most of the helium was produced in the first few minutes after the Big Bang, and today going on the production in the stars as in our Sun.
-All energy States that can be produced in a lab in Silicon Valley has already been around countless times before in the history of the universe. Not only in the stars, but also for example on Jupiter, if inner is made up of liquid metallic hydrogen, or in volcanoes on Earth. So if this had been correct, would the main part of the universe been helium and it would have been plenty of helium in the Earth's crust. If so, could neither humanity or the universe as we know it, exist. But there are almost no helium on Earth, "says core physicist.
-If this had been correct, would the main part of the universe been helium and it would have been plenty of helium in the Earth's crust. If so, could neither humanity or the universe as we know it, exist. But there are almost no helium on Earth, says Professor Dieter Röhrich at the University of Bergen
-Need decades to understand the
Röhrich has also gone through the background to all the involved researchers. They have published articles that all suggest that LENR is a reality. Robert Godes is not a scientist, but is an engineer with a bachelor's degree. But also more scientists with doctoral degrees have published results suggesting that LENR works.
-You need solid physics background and preferably ten years of research to understand the interaction between the cores. Most of those who have published something, have chemistry background. To be an engineer just keeps not to understand this. I acknowledge that there are a few physicists who also endorses, but there are black sheep everywhere. I will not spent a penny on research in this field, "he said.
-If it is so impossible as you say, how will you explain that many dozens of experts around the world are working on this, that they attract tens of millions from investors, gather for annual conferences and publishes scientific articles?
-It doesn't have to be about a scam. I think these people are hard working and well intentioned. One should at least look at what they have to contribute. In science, we still see this phenomenon often. We call it the expected bias (in English "bias", journ. Note). Therefore, we have in the established scientific community control mechanisms such as peer review, and that the experimental results will be cross-checked by competitors. As a scientist, you have always to the hypotheses prove. Then it is easy to subconsciously set the experiments so that they give a desired result. You feel free to ignore the facts, look at them as an error, and then you just proceed. Whether, as in this case, feel that you can save humanity with your research, you will be especially vulnerable to this mechanism. They try not to cheat, it's just our human nature that works like this, says Röhrich.
Brillouin rejects criticism
Robert Godes have been watching the objections from Röhrich. He responds via an email.
-If it had been easy to create LENR, he would had the right in that the universe would the passing of mostly helium. But to initiate the process, required very special circumstances that do not exist everywhere. Ask anyone if they can build a pulse generator that spring.
On criticism that it has to be about the expected bias, he replied:
-This is the desire of thinking from the Röhrichs page. Stable operation with four times more energy than what we send out, confirmed by the independent reports, is not a measurement error. It is sad that such people say that science is going to be driven by data and results, but at the same time refuse to look at the actual results, "points out Godes .
The big question now, is whether the LENR-research will be taken up as a more accepted part of science. It is obvious very strong and competent forces that are fighting against such recognition.
However, not all have Röhrich physicists on his side. Physicist Bo Höistad at Uppsala University have even measured attempts to Rossi, and confirm that it both seems to occur an inexplicably strong energy, and that isotope changes occur.
This last can not be explained otherwise than that it takes place one or another previously unknown core reaction-unless the polls are done wrong. At the same time have no LENR-supporter some explanation of why the LENR-the experiments do not emit some sort of radiation, even if physical theory implies that the reaction must lead to radiation.
Another that has gone from being skeptical about to open for that something unknown happens, is the Swedish Professor Hanno Essén. He is a former leader of the Swedish skeptic Association, and can thus difficult to be accused of indiscriminately. Still, he has helped to demonstrate that a core reaction takes place at Cold Fusion.
Many Norwegian professionals interested
The Norwegian Academy of technological Sciences and Tekna has already hosted a well attended seminar on LENR, with 50-60 participants. Research Director Jan Ivar Botnan at the Norwegian defence research establishment has set in motion investigations by going through the literature and send people at conferences, and believe the results from abroad is so promising that the Research Council should concentrate on the field.
The history of science is full of surprises and also spectacular miscalculations, but so far it will (cold fusion) not be given priority as a separate priority area, "said Arvid Hallén, ceo of the Research Council of Norway.
The Research Council asks for transparency
When Aftenposten is trying to get the Research Council of Norway in speech, comes the following statement from the Director in an email:
"We have gotten into some project applications on technology involving cold fusion. They have, as all applications we get, been reviewed by committees made up of outstanding scientists in the field. There is very strong competition for funds and none of the applications related to cold fusion has been found strong enough to receive support. When it comes to cold fusion in itself, is the scientific basis for a possible cold fusion unresolved. Now, both the scientific environment and the Research Council be open for that big surprises can happen. The history of science is full of surprises and also spectacular miscalculations, but so far there will be given priority as a separate priority area, "said Arvid Hallén, ceo of the Research Council of Norway.
A number of professionals outside the physics have been watching the last few years LENR. One of them is a professor emeritus at NTNU His Faanes Haakon. He has used a yrkeskarrière to study elkraft, has served on the State power Board and don't have much to spare for physicists who Röhrich and their rejection of the LENR.
-The high gentlemen would not see
-I'm outside the good company of professionals, but I have read the reports and see that there's more energy out than in, and that recorded chemical element changes. This is a definition of the core reaction. It is quite clear that physicists are right in that it lacks a theory that can explain what is happening. But whoever finds it, could prepare to go to Stockholm to receive the nobel prize. It is fortunately set in motion the initial attempt at FFI. Then one can perhaps invite skeptics there. But they're likely not. Galilei invited in his time the tall gentlemen to see in the star the binoculars. But they would not see. About LENR is a reality, it is a finding in line with the very, very big in world history, "he said.
Interested in the Storting
Mp Nikolai Astrup from the right
The Norwegian Parliament
Among those who have interested them for the case in Norway, Nikolai Astrup. The conservative party's energy and environmental policy spokesman has actually had a meeting with the Norwegian Parliament Brillouin Energy.
-I have been with me that many believe cold fusion is a dream Castle. I'm not able to believe anything about the debate, scientists must decide. I would not today bet it all on that development of cold fusion will succeed. But in the battle to find solutions of the future we are going to have to work with many different solutions in parallel. Which ones hit the blink, it is too early to say anything about. About cold fusion works, it will clearly get the global importance, "he said.
This is certainly not the last periods set in the case.
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Here is what says Ronny Korsberg, CEO of Blackswan Innovation write on his Linkedin account on Black Swan Innovation AS:
History: Founded by Ronny Korsberg and Bård Havre in spring 2013, after meeting at the Inventions Geneva Expo. The founders have a strong common interest in emerging technologies, especially within the energy sector.
Business goal: Linking emerging companies and inventors with conventional investors to provide funding for R&D, and equity or loans as a base for growth. Invest in companies, the acquiring and reselling of licenses for new technologies.
Investment Philosophy: Initial investments will be low-risk investments in established technologies that are easily tradable, combined with a selection of front-runners in their field, with the potential to take off within 2-5 years. Smaller investments spread over several projects in each sector of the more R&D dominated “exotic” technologies, where the lead times are longer.
Business plan: After a 5 year build-up period, we aim to be a respected, well-established innovation company with a sound investment base in the technology market. We strive to sell down and reap the profits of the companies we have invested in as the technologies mature and reach the product market. We will invest in newcomers within our core sectors and attract more investors to our company.