Jed Rothwell in 2011:
QuoteRossi has given out *far* more proof than any previous cold fusion researcher.
Jed Rothwell Jan 29, 2016:
Quote(I am assuming for the sake of argument the device [the ecat] is real. I have no proof of that.)
(the above quotes claimed by Popeye, perhaps Abd here would like to give context?).
The point of this thread is to examine different ways in which the word "proof" is used by players and commentators on LENR (including skeptics).
One assertion I hear is that skeptics are mostly fixed in their views so that they require an impossible standard of proof that will not be met even when LENR heaters are being sold to all and sundry.
As always care with precise definitions is needed, and whether from skeptics or believers a lack of care here leads to trouble. For example, Orbo is now selling O-Cubes to all and sundry. For that to be proof of their claimed miracle we need three more conditions:
A. The O-Cubes bought actually are delivered.
B. The delivered O-Cubes actually perform as claimed.
C. The claims are unambiguous without loopholes.
In the case of O-Cubes we have not yet got past A!
Without this care we have pseudo-argument in which words are used for their emotional import and two people can argue when in fact they have identical views.
