Successful replication of Alexander Parkhomov ?

  • We have interesting results from Russia.
    @s_grey is the user who makes these attempts, he will add more information soon,

    He will also answers questions in this thread.


    Well, that "excess" heat. Within about 40 minutes. gave extra power reactor, about .. (700-380) / 3 = 100W. And, little by little increased temperature (at a rate 1g / min - setting PID controller), and the power first increases, and then began to fall! On the chart you can see everything.

    Translation from Russian

  • If it is right what I think to see, than it looks very prommissing!

    It would be nice if S_Gray describes what exactly has been done:
    Fuel type Ni? LiAl H2? quantities?, destination materials, preparation etc. all details available.
    Reactor type: material, sizes, seals, use of vacuum, H2 gas, pressure control etc.
    Heater: Material, used wire core diameter, resistance, 1/3 phase
    Heater controller: type used, max. Voltage and Current and Power.

    Explain the graphs
    Why doe he think he succeeded?
    Thanks, Gerard

  • 1. Fuel - the contents of the Ni-Mh battery. Photo: (the battery itself). (demolition, glows red - likely lithium salts are present).
    2. Fuel is packed into a metal pipe photo:
    On top is covered with alumina cement Secar-71 for electric insulation. Sergio wound spiral fechral diameter 1.6mm. The resistance of about 2 ohms .. (do not remember).
    Helix also plastered with cement.
    3. The fuel container inserted mullite tube. To submit H2.
    H2 - receiving via electrolysis, sulfuric acid, lead plates. Moreover, out of 6 normal liters of distilled water was made 2 liters. Electrowinning (slight enrichment D2, wherein D stands for lead about 7 times smaller than H).
    The assembled reactor looks like this: (I have them all similar).
    With the inserted end of the K-type thermocouple. At the other end of the supplied hydrogen. The current on the electrolytic cell 1A. Controlled all PWM controller with PID controller. Power supply:…ramitel_transformator.jpg PWM
    regulator and ADC (next)

    The slow rise in temperature occurs approximately 2nd day. Graphs can not show, not kept as interest was not. A
    typical performance of the experiment, for example here:…ht/next/3#experiment_10.1
    (please note this is only an example quite other data!).

    Total Parkhomov between Rossi and -they are both warmed up reactor 1300+ Celsius.
    Why replicators heated to 800-1100, and then outraged that nothing works? This is strange.
    If the reaction is not at such a temperature - Quenching will run. I have to be started at least three occasions.
    Power of my power is insufficient. We had to be insulated. I lifted the isolation - the reaction starts.

    Mary Yugo
    Who himself can not - criticize others.

  • Absolutely! There's a mixture of metals. Does it really matter what it contains, if necessary effect?
    From KOH I washed with distilled water. Here's a photo:

    When choosing a mixture of metals from batteries was guided by the fact that for the efficient operation of the metals inside must absorb hydrogen, manufacturers have picked up everything you need in the correct proportions ;). To the same effect LENR use metals with high absorption.
    And do not even forget to add Li .. The truth is not all. But it does not matter - Lithium batteries are widely available.

    If someone will be repeated in the clear, as I have - beware of nickel tetracarbonyl. It is very poisonous. In the initial stages of heat is released.

  • @s_grey: your criteria for choosing the content of a NiMH battery as a 'fuel' is interesting, in a good way.

    The nickel alloy you used might still have had KOH traces, which could be important for observing the effect in the same way lithium is (perhaps even more so in the case of potassium).

    You loaded the cell in air without applying a vacuum before starting the test, correct?

  • Yes, the color purple - power. It is considered as follows: the voltage multiplied by the duty cycle of the PWM. The inaccuracies are compensated by the number of samples.
    In case of breakage of the heater - Power risen sharply, due to the
    increased voltage (open load, the simplest stabilizer parametric). DC Power do not measure.
    A thermocouple is inserted into the end of the reactor. Calibrated 0 (melting ice) and 100 degrees Celsius (boiling water). To detect the effect of this is enough. You can even be considered in parrots, the main thing - the power ratio before and after the reaction, insignificant mistakes. The graph shows that it is. 40 minutes - long enough period of time.

  • No vakkuum (((all homemade equipment .. The Middle Ages (((Check for
    good equipment -.. Do better and share the results of all will be good!.
    Of course there is KOH.

    Open cell, hydrogen is passed, slightly enriched D.

    Google translator changes the meaning :(. Sorry.

  • Thanks for sharing your findings s_gray, what is your plan now? I guess the phenomenon needs to be repeated several times again and again to be verified. To my knowledge Parkhomov did not repeated in public, he went into the dark, is that your understanding too?

  • @s_grey: your criteria for choosing the content of a NiMH battery as a 'fuel' is interesting, in a good way.

    The nickel alloy you used might still have had KOH traces, which could be important for observing the effect in the same way lithium is (perhaps even more so in the case of potassium).

    You loaded the cell in air without applying a vacuum before starting the test, correct?

    How to extract metalized hydrogen from a 5 year old battery.


    In our earlier study, it was demonstrated, that as a result of the thermal runaway of nickel–cadmium batteries, large amounts of hydrogen are released19. The thermal decomposition of electrodes demonstrated that hydrogen accumulates in the electrodes of nickel–cadmium batteries in the process of their operation. So KSX-25 battery with the service period of over five years contains approximately 800 liters of hydrogen. The capacity of an oxide-nickel electrode as a hydrogen absorber was quantified as 13.4 wt% and 0.4 g сm −3 (ref. 20). The obtained result exceeds the earlier obtained results for nickel hydride (obtained using traditional methods) by 10 times21, and for any reversible metal hydrides, including magnesium hydride or complex hydrides by 2 times22,23. This article is devoted to the determination of where and in what form hydrogen accumulates in electrodes of nickel–cadmium batteries. It is possible to physically divide oxide-nickel electrode into two phases – active substance (nickel hydroxide) and metal–ceramic matrix (in the case of sintered electrodes present in KSX-25 batteries). If hydrogen is intercalated into nickel hydroxides then, when nickel hydroxides reacts with acids and forms soluble salts, intercalary hydrogen will be released, because nickel hydroxides disappear and the salt dissolves into the solution. Any type of acid, which forms soluble salts with nickel hydroxide, but does not interact or poorly interact with metal matrix, can be used for this purpose. For example, it possible to use sulfuric acid, which interacts with nickel hydroxides with the formation of soluble salt of nickel sulfate...and so on...

    One of my criteria for HRM formation is time. This paper illustrates that a nickel battery used for 5 years will produce HRM.

  • Firstly, let me say that I hope this is really working as it is hoped. Thank you for putting the work in to do actual experiments.

    What is the mass of the main reactor body? What I would like to exclude as a possibility is the thermal mass and thermal lag of the reactor body is causing the power-temperature relation.

    In others words, can it be excluded that this change in power relative to heat is not caused by a thermocouple being close to the heater coil, and so is biased by this close proximity and therefore high temperature to control the PID. Then, as the internal reactor body temperature finally reaches the wire temperature (thermal equilibrium is finally attained), the power required to heat the main body then decreases to maintain a steady state. If the thermal lag was about 2 hours, the plot might look similar. Calibration runs would clear up whether this is an issue or not. How do the unsuccessful experiments look?

  • By the way, some time ago I speculated that Parkhomov might have put the contents of a lithium battery in his March 2015 experiment (I've been criticized for suggesting this), as according to the fuel/ash analysis he showed at ICCF19 [1] there was a significant amount of Mn in the fuel, a rather large amount of Li in the ash inconsistent with the claimed LiAlH4 quantity, and (although I didn't relate it to lithium batteries at that time) a high carbon content. Coincidentally, several commercial Li-ion batteries employ a Lithium Manganese Oxide (LiMn2O4) cathode and a graphite anode [2].

    So even though Parkhomov never claimed using the content of a Li-ion battery, s_gray's experiment reminded me of that.


  • Mats002: I merkantilny interest in the reactor - too lazy to light the stove with firewood. Reactor - a good substitute. I engaged for quite some time, since last year. Actively engaged in the reactor beginning in the winter because it's cold. Summers are hot - take a break.
    Fade is not going to. I am completely open for information.

    Why Parkhomov lost - I do not know.
    The plans - to be ready once the reactor with another heater in five days (nichrome wire). It is more flexible - it is hoped that will not burst (fechral why it breaks).

    There was a break for almost a month - departed from nickel tetracarbonyl. Safety technique must be observed.

    But not only did Parkhomov reactor, even for example:…laim-cop-over-3-at-1347c/
    Note the same temperature over 1300 degrees.
    Once again I draw the attention of distinguished replicators on this circumstance.

    40 minutes of the reactor - too little electricity spent many times more than it worked out. I agree with you - you need continuous operation.

    axil: The inaccessibility of some materials - sometimes leads to surprising results!

  • Paradigmnoia: The heating occurs at a rate in 1 degrees per minute. No more. The heat from the spiral thermocouple reaches no more than 2 minutes. If I may say so. The higher the temperature - the faster. 2 minutes - maximum. All my experiments are available here:
    At the top of the page there is a translator. Use the graph to estimate. All reactors are more or less similar. In recent experiments. I probyval rapidly heated and cooled. For example here:
    Spread in the file data to plot.
    1452952281 32 1032 645 118
    1 time in Unix format
    2 voltage
    3 Temperature code of ADC ((data_acp -42) * 0.4717; // temperature in degrees translation, 42 - offset)
    4 power (multiplied by 3)
    5 PWM (0 - 255)

    Still - it averaged power during 60.
    The voltage and PWM - served as it is. PWM - on the chart is not displayed.

  • @s_grey, Thank you for sharing your experiments. I recommend on your next experiment to use 2 thermocouples, preferably with one located in a slightly cooler area of the reactor. In my experiments I have seen several cases where type K thermocouples degrade above 1200C and will give false high readings. This can give the illusion of excess power being generated when it is not. By having two thermocouples you can compare them to ensure they are in agreement and if one is located in a cooler section it will be less likely to degrade and give false high readings. Hopefully you can eventually move into some type of calorimetery.

    When the effect seemed to appear and the power was reduced did the glow appear constant?

    Best of luck on your experiments.