1 MW E-Cat Plant Watch Thread [UPDATE #41 — 350 Day Test is Over, Results in Approx 1 Month]

"Most recent results from the third party independent E-Cat trials showed exceptional energy densities. When including internal plus external components the volumetric energy density observed was (3.6 104 ±12%) MJ/L and the gravimetric energy density was (1.3 104 ± 10%) MJ/kg.The energy densities of gasoline are 32.4 MJ/L and 44.4 MJ/kg respectively. So the E-Cat is thousand times more volumetric energy dense and 293 times more gravimetric energy dense than gasoline."

It appears, from the footnote cited in the original source, that this quotation is referring to the Lugano report, and not the (impending) results of the 350 day test.

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Most recent results from the third party independent E-Cat trials showed exceptional energy densities. When including internal plus external components the volumetric energy density observed was (3.6 104 ±12%) MJ/L and the gravimetric energy density was (1.3 104 ± 10%) MJ/kg.The energy densities of gasoline are 32.4 MJ/L and 44.4 MJ/kg respectively. So the E-Cat is thousand times more volumetric energy dense and 293 times more gravimetric energy dense than gasoline.

kazm.

Indeed. It is interesting how (falsely) convincing the Lugano test results have been in many quarters, don't you think?

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It is interesting how (falsely) convincing the Lugano test results have been in many quarters, don't you think?

Yes, At first glance it looked pretty good.
I originally came to praise Ceasar, not bury him. But I end up with handfulls of knives the more I look, and band aids are few and far between, and too small to staunch the bleeding.

This next report better be a good one.

This whole thing is very, very interesting. Something is going on, and not just with Rossi and [lexicon]IH[/lexicon]. Look at the world energy markets. The Saudis were pumping like crazy, probably at the request of western governments and in self interest to punish Putin's adventures. Then when the House of Saud and PutinGaz agree to a truce and limit production...the markets came back...except oil. What? Dropped some more. That's not because Iran didn't play along. They don't have the ability to crater prices against Saudi Arabia, much less SA and Russia together. No, something else is up.

Does that mean that Rossi and [lexicon]IH[/lexicon] have it bagged? We'll see. It would explain why after all this time the chief trumpet player is silent shortly after the territorial rights disclosures. If [lexicon]IH[/lexicon] has a winner and they know it, their lawyers and PR people will want to control the messaging from here on out. The biggest, broadest, and longest payday in a disruptive technology emergence is in the IPO and owning that stock going forward. That means that you hunt where the ducks are...on the US stock markets...and have SEC rules to consider...like 'prospective statements' which need to comport with the public statements of knowledgeable interested parties after the 'when did you know it?' date. AR may be under an NDA on his own baby.

China, Russia, and even good ole' Uncle Sam would leak like a sieve in the C-suites if the engineering departments of certain major companies got some advance working papers to begin doing production pilots and found out that it works with those huge COPs...and the money boys would move out of oil and not move back.

I'm wondering if it's just that 'we the poor people' will be the last to know. I mean Brillouin didn't do a demo for congress for nothing. Something's up, and I think I know what it is. Got nickel?

@Shane D,

Like they say "Always follow the money". Always, always, always FOLLOW THE MONEY! And when they say it's not about the money, IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY!

Let's say you were a C-Suite executive, R&D engineer, corporate spy, or in the briefing chain from an intercepting intelligence agency to their governmental overmasters, that you suspected with high confidence, that oil and the oil economy was about to be replaced. You wouldn't be able to tell anyone, but you'd darn sure short those oil stocks and futures.

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Not sure how that plays into Rossi's fuel (above my paygrade), but one would think if he has something, the three elements alone aren't all there is to it. There have been many replication attempts based on Rossi's patented fuel mix, and few have been successful. Those that have claimed success...mostly in Russia, along with a couple of replicators that post here, have measured far less excess energy, and COP than Rossi claims. So something seems amiss.

I recall Bob Greenyer saying that one of Rossi's patents mentions tungsten wire; tungsten is also something suggested by Norman Cook, who has collaborated with Rossi. 180W is an alpha emitter, and alpha decay is energetically possible for several stable isotopes of tungsten. (And tungsten is very well known in its use as a filament in lightbulbs, which points to a glaring omission if research has looked passed something interesting here; but I wonder how much hydrogen and deuterium have been investigated in this connection.)

What's baffling is that if the replicators have missed something important, it suggests that Rossi's patents are not enabling ones. I doubt he has received good IP advice; or, if he has, he has simply ignored it. Apparently he does not want to set up a revenue stream from patent royalties and instead hopes to beat the market. I don't really understand any of it.

Tungsten also makes for an excellent and durable electrode if the recipe frequency is more electrical and has to be driven at very high voltages. Just ask BLP.

Axil can explain it to me if we don't get too far into rydberg matter. I tried reading up on that since he mentions it in nearly every post and I'm pretty sure my brain cramped up.

I was unclear what Peter was saying also.

An 8400 MWh electrical bill to the customer and/or [lexicon]IH[/lexicon] would put an end to this 1MW plant topic...

350 days times 1 MW is just little more than 8000 MWh. All signals (not evidence though) so far indicates a successful delivery of energy so this should be it.

What puzzles me in what Peter says is the rumor of a first page with a summary maybe within 12 days. Who told him that? Did he see it himself?

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I was unclear what Peter was saying also.

An 8400 MWh electrical bill to the customer and/or [lexicon]IH[/lexicon] would put an end to this 1MW plant topic...

Yes the energy quaoted must be output energy and NOT input energy.

There are 8760 hours in a year. A 1 MWhours hour plant would produce a maximum of 8760 MWhours/year. I believe that the plant produced heat at a rate of 8000 MWhours in its operating time of 350 days out of a maximum of 8400 MWhours for 350 days.