Mat Lewan Meets Rossi in Sweden, Rossi Bidding on Factory For QuarkX Production

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The reported 36 m^3 of water per day (according to Mats’ article the flowmeter was positioned correctly...) matches quite well the reported COP of 50 (20 kW electric input assumed). And even if the water had not been vaporized but only heated from 60C to 100C, the COP would come to about 3.5. The contract required a minimum of > 2.6, as far as I remember.

I don't have an opinion about this so far, except that 20kW input and an assumption of dry steam would give roughly COP=50. My point is orthogonal to this, based on Mats "Rossisays":

Rossisays: The 60->100C temp rise is discounted
Rossisays: The output is roughly 1MW

Tech fact: you cannot accurately know how dry is the steam without more complex measurement

Fact: the license contract specifies water flow calorimetry hence 100% wet steam (for that purpose) must be assumed.

Tech Fact: If you believe Dewey's 100.1C we have 100% wet steam almost certainly.

This does not make sense. If, instead, the output is roughly 70kW yes that does make sense, although not with 20kW input. But Rossi has not said that the measured input temperature is 60C. And has said he has a much higher COP than 3.6. And assuming dry steam output is always unsafe witout much more information that would have to contradict Dewey's 100.1C.

There are too many gaps in this story to make precise sense of it. We do not know how COP is calculated, whether steam is assumed 100% wet. Dewey's comments about inconsistencies don't make sense without context - they could be nothing or a big deal.

So all I can do is point out that this 1MW plant appears to have been producing between 70kW max and a few kW - depending on the input temperature. That is if we believe the electrical and flowrate measurements of course.

Mats takes what Rossi says about this test as somehow validating it. I can't for the life work out how that is. Equally, with such partial information we can't yet say much about it.

Claiming as well as owing something like MUS$ 89 brings out the worst in people.

Well, given that Mats reports accurately what Rossi said (whether or not what was said was true) it would be intriguing indeed if Rossi HAD offered to give back the initial payment and IH refused

Because if indeed that happened, AND if Rossi's megaWidget didn't work, acceptance would have got IH some money back AND freedom from a lawsuit.

In other words, they could be deemed to have failed in their fiscal duty to their investors of making the best of what they say is a bad situation, and recouping some money.

Oh well - at least we know the source of Mats' information.

I wonder where Dewey Weaver gets HIS information.

Nigel - I've just confirmed that Rossi made no such buy-back offer to IH. It's a yet another lie.

If anybody knows Mats - ask him to request the 1MW flowmeter make and model number information from Rossi. You folks can then match-up those specs against the newly disclosed information from Rossi. Penon supplied that information to IH during the interim reporting cycle then somehow forgot to include that minor detail in the final "ERV" report. After you find that out, then we can get around to the serial number and calibration matters.

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Very interesting that IH wanted to cancel the test just 3-4 months after the beginning (after first ERV's interim report?), and offered to pay "a significant sum of money" for this cancelation.

Maybe @Dewey Weaver can say more about that?

I wonder if Rossi was prescient enough to get the IH buy out offer in writing so that we may see it in the court evidence.

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Nigel - I've just confirmed that Rossi made no such buy-back offer to IH. It's a yet another lie.If anybody knows Mats - ask him to request the 1MW flowmeter make and model number information from Rossi. You folks can then match-up those specs against the newly disclosed information from Rossi. Penon supplied that information to IH during the interim reporting cycle then somehow forgot to include that minor detail in the final "ERV" report. After you find that out, then we can get around to the serial number and calibration matters.

"Confirmed"?

With whom?

Are you sure your source is truthful?

Nigel - straight from the top. Didn't happen.

Does the flowmeter ping matter to you?

Sifferkoll - Personally speaking - I would not sell back the paid-up $11.5M paid up license including derivative rights to Rossi. I'd enforce the license agreement and make Rossi prove whether it works or not. If he fails to respond or cannot satisfactorily meet the contract terms, then he would have legal issues that the courts would likely have to sort out. I hope you can process that in your most interesting headspace.

Sounds like some nice assets will be available in Sweden soon.

Sifferkol, please explain to me how this revelation of the buy back deal is anything beyond yet ANOTHER "Rossi says"?

Following up on Thomas Clarke and Dewey Weaver:

Is there water input temperature measurements; and is the pressure constant? If I follow Clarke's calculation, what if the secret customer's plant returns 99.9 degree water, or even 101 degree water under pressure? Is there something missing from my understanding of the test setup?

Sifferkoll, your questions are nullified by the fact that you admit it is a "Rossi says" lol. A "Rossi says" holds no value to a critical thinking mind at this point. Do you understand this?

The buy back exercise would have informed Rossi that IH had developed nefarious motives that Rossi would be wise to protect himself against. This may have caused Rossi to begin his accumulation of evidence in anticipation to a legal fight at the end of the test. I would anticipate in such an hostile environment, Rossi was under the guidance of his lawyer from very early on in the test. The Rossi lawyer must have advised Rossi to record all conversations and transaction in preparation for the trial. This may be where the 18 books came from. This also may be why the IH personnel worked at arms length without Rossi's help during the test. This is why Rossi made sure that IH workers did not see any new IP development that Rossi produced at the end of the year.