Ditto and likewise :
WaltC:
We are working on it already making hours of operation before going to stream: at that point we will give the datasheet.
For now I can say that the Ecat SKLep SSM weights 21 grams in total. I mean: 21 grams included the external body and the internal electronics, microchips etc.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
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The Lux rdg distance is approx 8 cms from the LED surface, tho', due to the (empty) lens/reflector assembly between LED and light meter
With this setup the rdg was 301 Lux at front of lens with 7.8V on PSU output direct to LED surface; current shown as 0.000A (Watts shown as 0.000W) but it's just below the first ADC threshold, so the actual rdgs are approx 12mA and 94mW
(click on thumbnail to view full photo)
Camera settings: ISO 800; f2.0; shutter 1/17
The camera-to-LED distance is approx 91cms (approx same as miniSKLep demo)
(The Lux rdg is on HOLD and meter moved to the side, to leave unobscured view of lamp for photo)
So - it's possible that AR is reading 300 Lux at the lens front, but if he is then the LED is likely to be operating closer to this test, around 100mW, and not even close to his 'conservative estimate' of 1W
301 Lux at distance of 8 cms.
Quite difficult to say, in this case the luminous flux could be in the range of 8-12 lumen.
Now he has a new image that doesn’t show anything that he claims from his kitchen table.
Interesting - these 2 objects are both claimed to be producing 300 Lux (albeit without distance given)
Interesting - these 2 objects are both claimed to be producing 300 Lux (albeit without distance given)
This is a classic magician's scam good for his dupes.
The illuminance (lux) is only the total luminous flux per unit area (perpendicular to it) independently by the distance from the source of light.
Illuminance (lux) says nothing about the luminous flux (lumen) of the source if you don't know the distance.
Luminous flux is that physical quantity related with the power.
AR latest:
“Exclusive photo of the Ecat MiniSKLep gridless in action during the R&D process;
[...]
The Head light is the same model of the one of the live streaming on course.
The only difference, this is in SSM mode.
The 21 grams include ecat’s body and internal stuff, The total weight is 390+21 grams”
"Total weight = 411gm" - therefore the 'new' Gridless is mounted with the lamp/base assembly
The claim is 'no external supply' to this miniSKLep
So I guess that there won't be 2 external wires (a black and a red) feeding into this assembly then 
Looking the "Exclusive photo of the Ecat MiniSKLep gridless in action during the R&D process" (definition drawn from the well known dupes site), in the darkness on background it seems to see a new "spectra"... 
Maybe it's a reflected image of the scammer.
[...] in the darkness on background it seems to see a new "spectra"...
Maybe it's a reflected image of the scammer.
Looking into their 'Crystal Ball'?
I thought that was a Bialetti
I thought that was a Bialetti
A 'gridless' SKLEP boiling a Bialetti - now that would be what I call a demo ! 😉
(on second thoughts, i suppose that would just be adding hot water to all the hot air)
Interesting - these 2 objects are both claimed to be producing 300 Lux (albeit without distance given)
LOOK MA, NO WIRES!
You, too, can do this:- No New Science - No Real Magic - Just Concealment
...Lux meter distance from source? Not telling! 😜
(click on Thumbnail to view full photo)
ISO 200, f2.0, shutter 1/17; camera-to-LED approx 91cms (3')
I 'see' it ...but i don't believe it
I 'see' it ...but i don't believe it
WAIT ! - that guy with the grey, er - that guy on the congas - isn't that ....?
I 'see' it ...but i don't believe it
50mW is enough for a photo-able demo using high efficiency power leds. These increase in efficiency a bit at very low currents (lower Vf, lower temperature) but anyway are no worse than linear. (for example, this datasheet shows (low current) led linearity of luminous flux with current down to very low currents https://www.sunledusa.com/products/spec/XZCM2CRK53WA-8VF.pdf)
20 X AA battery is 60 Wh or 50 days
or, another way of looking at it, each 2.5 days of life costs 24g of weight, so a 1kg unit would last 100 days. (You can get higher energy density from lithium cells but AA cells are dirt cheap).
rechargeable + a small solar cell could scavenge 50mW quite happily - but I'm not sure Rossi is up for that now.
All we can be sure is that no-one capable of independent testing will get these things.
It is pathetic - and of interest in some psychological fashion - that now Rossi has so pared back his game, with these little leds, none of his followers think it strange that not one such unit ever sees even a friendly independent tester. He may release in locked black box form one of these "SSM" units: just remember 100 days / kg. However given that the light level is so feeble I rather suspect they will not be released? Orbo was a good deal more flashy, if equally pointless.
THH
Display More50mW is enough for a photo-able demo using high efficiency power leds.
20 X AA battery is 60 Wh or 50 days or, another way of looking at it, each 2.5 days of life costs 24g of weight, so a 1kg unit would last 100 days
rechargeable + a small solar cell could scavenge 50mW quite happily - but I'm not sure Rossi is up for that now.
All we can be sure is that no-one capable of independent testing will get these things.
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My own fake SSM, shown above (#9830), is battery-based, obviously, but I'm not so sure the Leonardo offering will go that route. Plenty of entertainment still to come, in the New Year, I'm sure
All we can be sure is that no-one capable of independent testing will get these things.
It is pathetic - and of interest in some psychological fashion - that now Rossi has so pared back his game, with these little leds, none of his followers think it strange that not one such unit ever sees even a friendly independent tester. He may release in locked black box form one of these "SSM" units: just remember 100 days / kg. However given that the light level is so feeble I rather suspect they will not be released? Orbowas a good deal more flashy, if equally pointless.
if nothing else he could sell the ECatSK SSM as a novelty product.
if nothing else he could sell the ECatSK SSM as a novelty product.
I'm not sure which would be the greater novelty: an ECatSK SSM....
or a real factory, fully-equipped, and producing them ready for sale 😉
I'm not sure which would be the greater novelty: an ECatSK SSM....
or a real factory, fully-equipped, and producing them ready for sale 😉
The ecat-world readers don't have enough money to buy a whole factory - so ecat-ssm looks a better route for merchandising
Have a Great Christmas and the
Best in the New Year Everybody.
