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  • The notion that Acland and Lewan are in it for the big bucks is compatible with the delusion that if the e-cat affair is a scam it would be the biggest scam in history. Of course, the truth is that it isn’t even a big scam, much less the biggest. Rossiphiles talk about what historians will have to say about it all. The highly probable answer is that historians will have never heard of the e-cat and the few thousand people inexplicably incapable of seeing the obvious about it for years on end (and throw in the literally dozens of us who waste time watching it unfold for entertainment reasons.). In the internet age where millions of people take up far more arcane obsessions, the Rossi saga is a nonentity.

  • The United States and Russians have certainly built all sorts of field effect craft that manipulate gravity, mass, and inertia since the mysterious vehicles fell out of the sky during the late forties. They would not have just held onto such technology without trying to de-engineer it. My guess is that many of the craft that are being filmed by fighter jets are really these advanced vehicles. According to Harold Puthoff and several others that contracted for AATIP, these craft are capable of accelerating instantly at rates of beyond 200G. They can also seamlessly transition between space, atmosphere, and water.


    Leslie Kean, Contributor
    Investigative Journalist and Author

    Fmr. Manager of DOD Aerospace Threat Program: “UFOs are Real”

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com…ncid=txtlnkusaolp00001382



    10/11/2017 02:24 pm ET Updated Oct 23, 2017

    Something extraordinary was revealed today. Former high-level officials and scientists with deep black experience who have always remained in the shadows came forward on one platform. These insiders have long-standing connections to government agencies which may have programs investigating unidentifed aerial phenomena (UAP/UFOs). The team includes a 25-year veteran of the CIA’s Directorate of Operations, a Lockheed Martin Program Director for Advanced Systems at “Skunk Works”, and a former deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence.

    Today marked the official launch of To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTS/AAS) an innovative Public Benefit Corporation which will advance research into unexplained phenomena and develop related technology. It has established three synergistic divisions: Science, Areospace, and Entertainment. “We believe there are discoveries within our reach that will revolutionize the human experience,” says company President and CEO Tom DeLonge. Please see my previous story,- released yesterday - for background on today’s announcement which was live-streamed and is archived on the company website. Today’s launch of the TTS/AAS

    TTS/AASToday’s launch of the TTS/AAS

    According to a TTS /AAS statement, its team members who have been “operating under the shadows of top-secrecy for decades” believe that “there is sufficient credible evidence of UAP that proves exotic technologies exist that could revolutionize the human experience.”

    This could represent the beginning of a trend towards a new openness on the part of the U.S. government. These people know more than any of us, and they will be releasing important data on UAP in the future. As an investgative reporter with a long standing interest in this subject, who has worked with a few Academy team members in the past, I was shown some of this data at a meeting with them on Oct 4.

    Present for that four hour meeting was Luis Eiizondo, who ran an important program at the DOD. Elizondo is a senior career intelligence officer whose experience includes working with the U.S. Army, the Dept of Defense, the National Counterintelligence Executive, and the Director of National Intelligence. He served as the Director for the National Programs Special Management Staff in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. He is also the former Director of Programs to investigate Unidentified Aerial Threats for the Office of the Secretary of Defense.

    “Lue will architect partnerships with some very sensitive places, to help protect us and the technology involved, so we may achieve for you the extraordinary,” DeLonge said at today’s event.

    Lue [the “nickname” for Luis] had resigned his position at the DOD literally the day before we met. I was able to verify who he was and what his tasks were at the Pentagon. He received the highest commendations from his superiors. I was told that important unclassified data and documentation are expected to be released through the Academy’s on-line Community of Interest (COI) in collaboration with the US government, which will be set up soon.

    I asked him if these unidentified objects were considered to be threats. “They did not exhibit overt hostility,” he said. “But something unexplained is always assumed to be a potential threat until we are certain it isn’t. On the bright side, I believe we are closer than ever before in our understanding of how it operates,” he told me.

    At the event today, Elizondo explained his work this way: “I am accustomed to being involved in close-hold, nuanced programs involving national security. This includes being a Counterintelligence Special Agent, a case officer, and intelligence practitioner. However, by far the most interesting effort I was involved with was the topic of Advanced Aerial Threats.”

    He stated that he ran “a sensitive aerospace threat identification program focusing on unidentified aerial technologies.” His job at TTS/AAS will be “to work as a liaison and interlocutor in the collection of this information for the Science division, allowing us to collect facts for analysis.” How will this be done? One way is through the COI, which will “provide a platform for the detection and triangulation of phenomena events in real time, and allows two-way communication between the public and our team regarding this information.”

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    As a result of his position managing the DOD program for almost a decade, Lue said “I learned that the phenomena is indeed real.”

    In short, less that two weeks after leaving the Pentagon, Luis Elizondo confirmed that UFOs are a real; they exist, and they have been officially documented. Can anyone argue with this fact now, given where this man comes from and what he knows?

    A former high ranking DOD official - who only left his position last week - has confirmed that an official UFO Program exists, answering a question so many have debated and speculated about for decades.

    It is very important to understand that Lue does not speak for the DOD, since he is no longer employed there; he speaks independently as part of the TTS Academy.

    Lue also stated: “We are also planning to provide never before released footage from real US Government systems...not blurry, amateur photos, but real data and real videos.” And even more significant: “We are inviting our Government colleagues and friends in Defense to participate regularly with their own findings.”

    Another member of the team, Stephen Justice, an experienced aerospace engineer, explained that he will use scientific disoveries about the travel of UAP through space, demonstrating almost unimaginable technology, to develop technology that can change the world. Steve recently retired as a Program Director for Advanced Systems at Lockheed Martin after a thirty-one year career in the Skunk Works. “How dare we think that the physics we have today is all that there is,” he told me in an interview a few days ago. The opportunity here, as he sees it, is to “stand in the future and look back.””

    Steve’s objective is to harvest this advanced technology to build a vehicle that will allow for almost instantaneous travel through land, air, oceans and space, by engineering the fabric of space-time. Such a vehicle could also float, like something from science fiction. Steve says we have had glimpses of the science that could make this possible. It is not outside the realm of possibiity, if the necessary resources are in place. A TTS Academy concept for a vehicle drawn by Stephen Justice, embodying the technology they seek to understand and develop -

    © 2017 STEPHEN JUSTICEA TTS Academy concept for a vehicle drawn by Stephen Justice, embodying the technology they seek to understand and develop - a visionary concept for a revolutionary electromagnetic vehicle based on technology observed in unidentified aerial phenomena

    TTS Academy member Chris Mellon served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence for two administrations, and early in his career drafted the legislation that established the US Special Operations Command at a time when terrorism was not yet on the radar. He presented an overview of a 2004 incident involving the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz which was detected on two separate radars.

    “Two F-18s approach, the four aviators see that the object has no wings or exhaust — it is white, oblong, some 40 ft long and perhaps 12 ft thick”, he said. “One pilot pursues the craft while his wingman stays high. The pilots are astonished to see the object suddenly reorient itself toward the approaching F-18. In a series of discrete tumbling maneuvers that seem to defy the laws of physics, the object takes a position directly behind the approaching F-18.”

    The lengthy event occurred in broad daylight off the California coast, and gun camera footage was taken. At one point the object went from hovering at 80,000 feet to dropping at supersonic speeds, and came to a complete stop at 50 feet above the ocean. “More F-18’s are dispatched but with similar results,” Mellon stated. “The secret machine easily evades the F-18s. Dozens of military personnel aboard the various planes and ships involved are privy to these interactions.”

    Tom DeLonge’s final message today sums up the position of all involved: “No one person, one government, or one hidden institution should own this information and technology.”

    The TTS Academy intends to release game-changing information of the type interested people have been seeking for a long time. “The fact is, we might not necessarily be alone,” Luis Elizondo says. “Now is the time to move forward and try to answer some of life’s deepest mysteries.”

  • I personally think many of these advanced vehicles are manmade and one reason why they didn't want him to speak about them with his superiors (who would have a right to know if they were in our airspace) was that they belonged to us!


    And if they belonged to us, or some black budget semi-corporate entity with minimal accountability, then I think we had some sort of help in building them.

    My views are best expressed in this book by Renato Vesco.


    https://www.amazon.com/Interce…1552404616&s=books&sr=1-2




    I wrote my own book centered around boundary layer control experiments such as by Oscar Schrenk and Ludwig Prandtl and how the Germans were taking to them from the 1920's until the end of the war. And , lo and behold, look who won the war & 2 years later those experiments were flying all over the USA. Alas, my book didn't get published -- too many images that I had to get permissions to use. My publisher was willing but I ran out of time.


    So, naturally, my question to ufo extraterrestrial believers will be: Have you read this book? And the answer will be "No". But that won't stop them from pontificating on evidence they haven't even bothered to read.

  • I bet the dumb schmuk doesn't even believe in cold fusion!

    https://disq.us/url?url=https%…SNQy6HvrbKiw&cuid=4994479


    Document 4-13, Hugh B. Freeman to Chief of the Aerodynamics Division

    [Elton W. Miller], “Boundary-layer research,” 18 April 1932, in RA file 201,

    LHA, Hampton, Va.

    April 18, 1932

    MEMORANDUM For Chief Aerodynamics Division

    Subject: Boundary-layer research.

    1. The purpose of this memorandum is to call attention to the lack of largescale experimental data relative to the boundary-layer problem and to suggest a

    program of research which will provide information along these lines.

    2. The field of boundary-layer control, in this writer’s opinion, offers greater

    possibilities for the improvement of aircraft performance and safety than any other.

    This is because the control of the boundary layer influences every important aerodynamic characteristic of an aircraft. The three most important advantages offered

    by the control of the boundary layer are: (1) increase in lift, (2) an increase in the

    angle-of-attack range below the burble, and (3) a decrease in minimum drag. The

    first two advantages have been shown repeatedly by tests on small models, principally those of Oscar Schrenk in Germany, who obtained a maximum lift coefficient

    of CL

    = 5.0 and an L/D ratio of 50 by the method of removing the boundary layer

    on the upper surface of an airfoil by suction. The possibility of realizing the third

    advantage is shown by Figure 1 (Original figures not included herein.) in which is

    plotted the drag of the ZRS-4 airship computed for laminar and turbulent boundary layers. From these curves it is seen that if a method of controlling the boundary

    layer could be devised which would force the flow to remain laminar instead of

    changing to turbulent, the drag (of even a well streamlined body) could be reduced

    to about 10 percent of its present low value. The same thing holds true for the

    drag of the wings and fuselage or an airplane, since the Reynolds number in this

    case is greater than those shown, and hence a greater portion of the boundary layer

    is turbulent. It is not expected that a reduction as great as that cited above will be

    obtained in practice, of course, but even a 10 or 20 percent reduction in the drag of

    an airship or of an airplane would certainly be worthwhile.

    3. The only serious experimental work which has been undertaken at this

    laboratory on boundary-laye....

  • Pretty much all I was saying here, but since I am branded an “anti-LENR guy”, everyone got their panties in a bunch. Pretty typical.

    It's probably more accurate to brand you the "anti-science" guy, based on your own comments.


    How many times has the Pons-Fleischmann Anomalous Heating Event been replicated in peer reviewed journals?

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    interested observer wrote:

    I can assure you that my comments on this forum are not moving science in any direction, nor are they intended to, nor could they.


    Jed:

    Then why do you make these comments? What is the point? This is a science-oriented forum. If you comments contribute nothing to science, and if -- as you say -- you have not read the papers and you know nothing about the subject, why do you muddy the waters with ignorant, baseless assertions?




    Suppose you were to visit a forum devoted to Italian Opera. Imagine you express strong opinions about a performance of La Traviata. Following that, you say: "By the way, I have never seen this performance. Actually, I have never seen any Italian opera; I don't speak a word of Italian; and I have no interest in music." That would be inappropriate, wouldn't it? It would be idiotic. The people at the forum would say: "Then what are you doing here?!? Why do you have an opinion about something you know nothing about?"




    Why do you think it is okay to do that there?

  • Thanks Kev - Aerodynamics (and hydrodynamics) has always been an intrest of mine, from racing cars to rocketships it is a fascinating and complex subject.

    It was my first major in college. I got accepted into the highly impacted program for Aeronautical Engineering at Cal Poly but when I saw my friends graduating, not a single one of them got jobs in the field. The civilian market had been in a slump for more than a decade due to liability insurance, and the Defense market was going through the "peace dividend" phase. My friends had GPAs of 3.8 and above and I was a B student working my way through school, so I saw the handwriting on the wall and decided to go into Electrical Engineering.


    But I dug pretty deep into suction for boundary layer control, having had what I thought was a $billion idea for using sinterization to extend suction to every inch of the wetted surface at the same time as increasing the tensile strength of the wing. It turns out that it had already been done, and that all the investigations were classified. You don't classify failures.

  • Quote

    Leslie Kean, Contributor
    Investigative Journalist and Author

    “Two F-18s approach, the four aviators see that the object has no wings or exhaust — it is white, oblong, some 40 ft long and perhaps 12 ft thick”, he said. “One pilot pursues the craft while his wingman stays high. The pilots are astonished to see the object suddenly reorient itself toward the approaching F-18. In a series of discrete tumbling maneuvers that seem to defy the laws of physics, the object takes a position directly behind the approaching F-18.”

    The lengthy event occurred in broad daylight off the California coast, and gun camera footage was taken. At one point the object went from hovering at 80,000 feet to dropping at supersonic speeds, and came to a complete stop at 50 feet above the ocean. “More F-18’s are dispatched but with similar results,” Mellon stated. “The secret machine easily evades the F-18s. Dozens of military personnel aboard the various planes and ships involved are privy to these interactions.”

    That reminds me of an aspect of UFOs that was explained by VIFFing (Vectoring In Forward Flight). Flying saucers often were seen turning a square corner in the sky, a seemingly impossible maneuver.






    Chapter 9 of the book, “Jump Jet: The Revolutionary V/STOL Fighter” by Bruce Myles.



    Marines Discover Power of Thrust Vectoring: VIFF


    This initial exploration of VIFF lasted from January 16, 1970 to the end of June 1970. Person and Culpepper were overjoyed with the results so far.....


    No other aircraft in the world could do it. To a fighter pilot, it was almost a magical quality. As Lee Person put it, “I was enthused as hell.” So, too, was the pilot of the highly maneuverable T38 aircraft which had now joined the program to simulate dogfight situations. Trying to follow the Kestrel through hard break maneuvers, the T38 pilot exclaimed one day, “Hey, you just made a square corner and you’re coming right back at me!” The story was repeated on the ground and one of the experienced NASA test pilots refused to believe it. He flew the chase plane on the next sortie. After they landed, on the way back to the office, he grinned, “Do you know something? That airplane turns a square corner!”

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