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Thank you ENG8 to have shared here all these details..

We clearly understand that litigations between several parts can be complex.

it reminds me another former one at Doral by which so many idiot speculators here only talked about the bad or the good when all the time things are more subtle and complex.

Indeed and very expensive to litigate as we tried it as "litigants in person" whilst the other side had top defence barristers. Its around £1m+ to take a litigation through the Intellectual Property Court, which will no doubt be "fun" next year!

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Anyway, considering his engineering i found interesting he used several 10W small reactors to reach the output level required.

What evidence do you have that the box contained any e-cat reactors at all?

Just got in some news ( https://spidersweb.pl/2024/10/…snie-wyglada-przelom.html ) :

EV with unlimited range tested, battery power boosts without charging

The demonstration consisted a Renault Twizy 80 model fitted with an E-Cat power generation system. The test showcased EV's energy density increased from 62% to…

interestingengineering.com

No longer fusion, now "electricity from vacuum" using E-Cat ...
https://www.jomfruland.net/unc…echnology-unveiled/11416/

https://e-catworld.com/

Any comments?

"Prof" writes:

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2200 total readings only in the last 24 hours: the increase is getting exponential, never seen anything like that on Researchgate...higher than all the papers of Researchgate ever...more that all the papers of Researchgate ever

Yet still only 1 citation from that most read and whatnot ever paper on Researchgate, amazing.

Here is another test video with a Tweezy. The energy source wasn't independently proven, but the absence of proof is not the proof of absence, so we can not be sure.

Rossi's comment here applies to all LENR : regular physics stops working.

2024-10-21 03:26 Andrea Rossi

Herwig Lautner:

What about a chest of garlic and a system of crucifixes all around the Ecat, to be sure that the box under the Ecat is not the tomb of some descendent of Dracula the vampire, that hides very strong batteries in his tomb, connected with the Ecat ? When it turns to Andrea Rossi and the Ecat you can’t give nothing for sure. NOTHING !

Warm Regards

A.R.

I found a conversation between Bob G and Maico at
https://remoteview.substack.co…cat-twizy-test-discussion

Maico said that the 100kg extra weight seriously downgrades the Tizy's performance.
Bob G pointed out other unknowns like tire pressure, life-stage of the batteries, etc,

Another person suggested a 3000W fuel cell
https://www.fuelcellearth.com/…izon-3000w-pem-fuel-cell/

So I asked G4o to do some calculations on weight and volume of that cell and some idealized hydrogen storage to account for the 16kWh difference.

The answer is that the hydrogen system (not counting the tank) is much lighter than the steel box (which could then be thinner than the reported 2cm).

The H2 itself would only weigh 2kg -- which would probably sneak through the final weigh test.

But in order to JUST squeeze that much hydrogen into the back seat, it would have to be at 700 PSI (vs 200 standard).

The box would be 14 x 16 x 18 inches -- larger than the "steel" box, but maybe squeezable into the box + case.

So let's say H2 can neither be proven nor disproven based on weight and volume.


But the H2 system would produce considerable heat and exhaust (water).

Maico said the box remained cool to the touch.

So is he real, or an actor?

Separately - a new (today) video of Rossi explaining the test, before it started

Video: Andrea Rossi’s Pre-Test Speech –

Edit: a few peeks at the eCat Twizy, but mostly just talk.
Edit2: "Open Bar" for the reviewers ... always helps!

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Here is another test video with a Tweezy. The energy source wasn't independently proven

Here is the Tweezy R&D director doing routine paperwork:

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The answer is that the hydrogen system (not counting the tank) is much lighter than the steel box (which could then be thinner than the reported 2cm).

The H2 itself would only weigh 2kg -- which would probably sneak through the final weigh t

This wouldn't work. 2 kilos of hydrogen (it would also need air and an exhaust space/drain tube for a lot of water/steam from combusting the H2. A conservative figure for the energy content of 2 kgs of H2 is 68kWh. Since fuel cells are only 50% efficient at best that means the system would have to lose 34kWh of heat over a 6 hour run over 5kWh every hour....What is known in the engineering business as a 'hot box problem'

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This wouldn't work.

Later paras said :

But the H2 system would produce considerable heat and exhaust (water).
Maico said the box remained cool to the touch.

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2024-10-24 15:42 A.I. Expert

I noticed that the White Paper in the website http://www.ecat.com has a structure that is contingent with the directions of the Artificial Intelligence: is it a case ?

Uhm, what?

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Uhm, what?

You heard the man. Stop asking questions.

Look, this is not Rocket Science. It is straightforward. The machine had a base-plate of prefabulated aluminite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two main spurving bearings were in a direct line with the pentametric fan. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented.

For other details, you need to read original sources and stop bothering us with questions that are addressed in the literature. Or you can watch this video from Chrysler:

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You heard the man. Stop asking questions.

Heisenberg, Ohm and Schrodinger are in a car. They get pulled over.

Heisenberg is driving, and the cop asks him, “Do you know how fast you were going?”

“No, but I know exactly where I am,” Heisenberg replies.

The cop says, “You were doing 55 in a 35.”

Heisenberg throws up his hands and shouts, “Great! Now I’m lost!”

The cop thinks this is suspicious and orders him to pop open the trunk. He checks it out and says, “Do you know you have a dead cat back here?”

“We do now, a$$hole!” shouts Schrodinger, getting belligerent.

The cop moves to arrest them. Ohm resists.

I did not follow this time, but this may be interesting

How to Fake the E-Cat EV Test with an 80 Kilogram Box

How to Fake the E-Cat EV Test with an 80 Kilogram Box | NextBigFuture.com

There were claims of a Rossi e-cat device providing extra range for an electric car. Here is how the test could have been faked. The creator and claimant for

www.nextbigfuture.com

by nextbigfuture

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How to Fake the E-Cat EV Test with an 80 Kilogram Box

He must read LENR-forum. I posted info on this in here shortly after the test...

The Team of Professors, Professional Engineers, Electricians, Boiler Makers, Plumbers, and Professional Automotive Technicians who helped AR along the way must be interviewed to flush out this inspirational story of ‘never giving up’ no matter how many moral, social, or legal obstacles got in the way.

From ECat World.

Maico Marzocchi Excludes ‘With Certainty’ Battery or Fuel Cell Theories – E-Cat Only Possible Answer –

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From ECat World.

https://e-catworld.com/2024/10…cat-only-possible-answer/

1) The behavior of the voltage at the ends of the E-Cat does not have the characteristics of a voltage coming from the batteries (and here I stop again)

2) after having “extracted” from that “explosion-proof box”, containing the E-Cat NGU array, for more than 10 hours “powers” comparable to those of the demo, the level of the voltage supplied by the BOX itself remained constant…. no drop even of a few millivolts (both in the 10 hours overall of the static tests of 6-7 September, which in the 6 1/2 hours of the Latina demonstration)

3) The explosion-proof BOX remained cold, no increase in temperature, not even a few degrees.

4) I also want to add another piece of data since the fanciful suppositions that I have read, or that have been addressed to me, also concern this aspect. The explosion-proof box containing the E-Cat NGU array does NOT have a water exhaust pipe, and I certainly did NOT modify my Twizy to prevent it from “flooding” :D. A fuel cell, in addition to having to contain “the fuel” (hydrogen), produces water as waste (from 8 to 9 liters per Kwh produced), and also a fair bit of heat.

Has this guy never heard of DC-DC conversion electronics? Like what you find in pretty well anything? Not sure what type of engineer he is, but not an EE for sure?

As for 4) - he is confusing kg of fuel with kWh. The correct ratio is approx 500ml / kWh, not 9 litre (= 9kg) per kWh. Wrong by X20.

In a typical hydrogen fuel cell, each kilogram of fuel produces 9 kg of water. Thus, water production could be a by-product of on-site power generation. For instance, the average household electricity consumption in the US is approximately 31 kWh per day [4]. A hydrogen fuel cell supplying this electricity demand would produce approximately 15 L/day of water of unknown quality. If this water is of high purity, it could offset costs and energy consumption embedded in the current mode of centralized water treatment and distribution.

It is easy for anyone to put small amts of electronics in that box to make a suitably sized (e.g. 10kWh) battery deliver power with whatever V/I graph will resemble an e-cat (whatever that is) up to some maximum peak power that for Li-ion 15kWh batteries is actually rather high!

THH