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  • Perhaps we could have a more general thread on topics like UFOs, X37B, drones, LEO planes, panspermia.


    Some of this stuff is interesting and more plausible than LENR dentistry.

    I like your interest in those topics, and I think there’s not a place where to discuss them with proper moderation, and without it being hijacked by people with extreme views and or fanatic beliefs. That said, I think that is beyond the scope of LENR-forum and I don’t know if there will ever be a proper forum elsewhere to discuss those topics among serious people.

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

  • I wanted to paste here in this more relaxed space a quote that address one of the aspects that most people prefer to avoid talking directly but IMHO are a sort of elephant in the room that we can ignore all what we want but is not going to disappear because of that. It is the aspect of a de facto effort to keep a part of human knowledge beyond reach. You can call it conspiracy, bad luck, or simple a figment of some people’s imagination, but I think it has a circumstantial and contextual basis in real events that can’t be ignored.


    The quote belong to Bob Greenyer and is regarding the results of SAFIRE project:


    In the original SAFIRE 2019 review video, they note that Hal Puthoff and George Hathaway are on the team (I already noted this from their 2018 presentation slides).

    Hal Puthoff worked on black projects. Motgomery Childs noted in his recent YT interview that he is connected with CIA.

    Following the public emergence of John Hutchison's work in 1979 (which came about due to his curiosity in Tesla's work), IMHO, Ken Shoulders was brought in to investigate, Hal Puthoff found funding for Ken's work, using the 1950s + work of W. Bostik as a starting point (which I have argued was also based off non-public Tesla work). Montgomery Childs appears to suggest they have access to non-public information from the US patent office due to their recent connections. We know the US patent office classifies material all the time, they tried to do it with Shoulders patents.

    Hal sent one of his team to visit John in early 1980s. That same member of Hal's team went to visit Dr. George Egely in Hungary in 1983, George Egely was investigating teenage boys that could metal bend in Israel at the time. George Egely was invited as first soviet era scientist to a US nuclear facility. George E. became intimately interested in Ball Lightning. George E. has done huge study of ball lightning events. Ball lighting is a self-organising macro EVO. Tesla and Hutchison could create ball lightning at will.

    In 1992, Hal Puthoff visited Alexander Chernetsky in Russia and saw his device and discussed it with him, Chernetsky had a HF/HV device that blew up a power station (like Tesla), produced double layers, produced massive excess power and produced emissions that would alter the half-lives of radio nuclides. Hal was arranging to bring Chernetsky to US as had been done with Egely and Geller, but Chernetsky died in a car crash. Chenetsky device was equivalent to a miniature SAFIRE with only one of the Cathodes on and less gas and other control.

    John was working with George Hathaway, the exact same guy as is on the 2019 SAFIRE video - see this video from May 14th 1993 (shortly afterwards Fusion Technology made new rules that excluded the further work of Matsumoto from their Journal, just as Matsumoto was starting to refer to the Active Agents as micro ball lightning)

    Hal and Ken worked to secure funding for John and to ensure his move to US to be closer to Ken.

    Dr. Graham Hubler, then of US Naval labs, commented in January 2001 on BBC article on possible Israeli explanation for ball lightning that the US NAVY has been interested in ball lightning for a very long time. In October 2001, the US military commissioned a report into any Ball Lightning like research globally. At ICCF-18 at MU, Hubler detailed how much of the major western LENR research was funded by branches of the US military - at the time, Hubler had left US Naval labs and was the head of SKINR.

    John says the military RF band emissions observed by Mitchell Swartz revealed in his ICCF-22 presentation are also used in the paranormal research of Robert Jahn - 200 - 400 Megacycles.

    It's all the same thing...

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

  • It is the aspect of a de facto effort to keep a part of human knowledge beyond reach. You can call it conspiracy, bad luck, or simple a figment of some people’s imagination, but I think it has a circumstantial and contextual basis in real events that can’t be ignored.


    So: there are rumours of fairies at the bottom of my garden. A cat died there with strange wounds, and it could have been a sacrificial fairy sacrifice. Yet, aside a humourous story in the local paper, no-one pays attention to this. National press is silent.


    Two options:

    (1) Major national conspiracy

    (2) no fairies


    Which do you think is more interesting?


    But which do you think is really true?

  • You are over simplifying and mocking the issue with your example, but I am perfectly aware such a thing can never be proved as it enforced in such a way that is Impossible to prove the link between the dots. There will be always a perfect rational explanation, if that rational explanation is true or not usually does not matter.

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

  • While browsing the comment section of Donald Scott's video on the results of the SAFIRE project this comments stood out for me. Don't we know a Jason Cook???


    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.