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Scientists (unknown only to you) have tested the reactor that was presented to them and that was at that time the most advanced E-Cat available

Explain to me by what bizarre criteria the hot cat was superior to, for example, the original ecat which Levi supposedly tested which made almost 10x the average power at almost 10x the *claimed* COP of the hot cat.

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and they did it using a technique that was, among other things, the most practical to use.

No, it's not. An array of thermocouples is way more practical, far easier, and does not rely on FOURTH POWER calculations where errors are hugely multiplied. Considering the importance of the test, they could have used several techniques together including the Giancarlo style calorimeter I have linked here many times. Want the link AGAIN? And it is glaringly obvious that they should not have allowed Rossi to manipulate the fuel and ash which were sampled for isotopic analysis and they should have calibrated over the entire temperature range of operation because Rossi's reasons for not doing so were specious and ridiculous. They should also have used their own equipment, not involving three phase power, to measure input power in all the experiments.

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Remember that they were not in their labs, they were guests in a company room (from the photos of the Lugano report it seem quite small) and I don't think they had the chance and the time to build here a proper calorimetry system. Furthermore, there is nothing absurd in the use of an Optris camera, which is a very common tool, especially among engineers who analyze the plants.

I don't care if they were on the Moon, it's not an excuse for sloppy, inaccurate work on such an important issue. It's not an excuse for not responding to reasonable and polite critics. The Optris camera is fine for estimating the temperature of things like furnaces, exhaust manifolds, boilers and so on. It is a crude and gross device to use for precision calorimetry. If the scientists could not get the conditions they needed for an accurate tests, they should not have risked their reputations on a sloppy one. Now, almost everyone who heard of this thinks of them as the blind mice. And by the way, all except Essen are unknown to virtually everyone in the world of science. And Essen has way backed off his original enthusiasm for Rossi.

Like ele, SSC, you are so consistently wrong and uninformed that it is burdensome and probably useless to respond to you. I endorse the comments made before with the word "rock" in them.

This is what I wrote before about the claims that all of Rossi's fuel converted to 62Ni in the various blind mice tests. I stand by it today.

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As to salting the Lugano reactor, it is the only explanation that makes sense. It is categorically impossible that all the nickel in the reactor would be transmuted precisely to nickel-62 alone and with no radioactivity. It is impossible that a reactor would continue to run when all its fuel (nickel-58) was exhausted. No Ni-58 was found in the ash-- none whatsoever. This is only compatible with Rossi buying Ni-62 and placing it in the ash when nobody was looking. He had ample opportunity because he handled the reactor and the ash repeatedly despite the silly claim that the Lugano runs were independent experiment, free of Rossi's participation. In fact, he participated heavily and repeatedly-- another in a long chain of Rossi lies.

A longstanding lie Rossi stood by from 2011 is that he "enriches" nickel to contain more Ni-62 "cheaply" in his lab. Really? That alone would be a Nobel prize. Here is more about Ni-62 as fuel, not as ash. Rossi confuses and compounds the entire story of isotopes because he is basically an ignorant, lying con man who assumes his marks have short memories and a low tolerance for complexity. When it comes to CEO's, it turns out he was right.

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Eddie Sines identifies serious flaws in Rossi's U.S. patent application.

Sines: [Rossi] has shown a number of E-Cat devices on various Web sites. In each of these devices, he claims to be using 58g of Ni 62. Here's the glaring problem: Ni 62 is a rare isotope. Rossi's devices would be worth $582,000 each if they truly had 58 grams of highly refined Ni 62 within their case.

So do ecats use or make Ni-62? Guess you'll have to ask Rossi, ROTFWL! http://newenergytimes.com/v2/n…1/37/3721appendixd3.shtml

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Rossi's U.S. Energy Catalyzer patent application states Ni62 is indispensable.

Rossi application: For clearly understanding the following detailed discussion of the apparatus, it is necessary to at first consider that for allowing nickel to be transformed into stable copper, it is necessary to respect the quantic laws. Accordingly, it is indispensable to use, for the above mentioned exothermal reactions, a nickel isotope having a mass number of 62, to allow it to transform into a stable copper isotope 62. All the other Ni isotopes, on the other hand, will generate unstable Cu, and, accordingly, a beta decay.

Note: According to Rossi, Ni62 is the only isotope that works because all the other isotopes produce unstable products. Rossi always said that his Energy Catalyzer device produces no unstable products.

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University of Padova, Italy performs SIMS analysis on what Rossi claims to be material samples from Energy Catalyzer experiments. Minor changes in many masses. No change in Mass 62. (2009_

Believers are never put off by grave inconsistencies in scammer's stories.

Once MFMP finishes raising 320K for Suhas, maybe Bob can encourage the E-catworld crowd to contribute here:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/13/…ollar-jet-feat/index.html

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Why are you talking about the HotCat? I was talking about the Lugano test, where scientists did not test a HotCat.

They didn't? What was it they tested? From their report:

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Data were collected during 32 days of running in March 2014. The reactor operating point was set to about 1260 ºC in the

first half of the run, and at about 1400 °C in the second half. T

Seems pretty hot to me! http://www.elforsk.se/Global/O…er/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf

Why even do this test when earlier tests, much easier to evaluate and control, had been found deficient and needed BADLY to be repeated with proper calibrations, controls, and independent replication?

If the point of increasing operating temperature is not better efficiency (COP and output) what, in your estimation could it be? It was much easier to control and use power from the "Ottoman" ecat with the heat exchanger than the silly kludges Rossi gave the Swedes which did not even have a forced flow cooling system!

I am simply astounded at these replies!

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I missed the times when you called Rossi a wizard or an illusionist expert ...... your admiration for him is really limitless, considering that you spent the last years of your life studying every movement of his and commenting on it wherever you were allowed to do it. Not even my dog is so faithful ......

I don't understand why the prissy moderator/admins leave stuff like this. Completely meaningless and noncontributory. But my replies, clear and cogent though they be, are moved or removed. This place is becoming hardly worth the trouble as Shanahan noted (or I think he did).