Have IH let their E-Cat License lapse by inaction?

  • "Abd" wrote:

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    Wow Abd! Your are not making any sense; is it your only aim here to work as a stand in for Dewey and make very simple questions and statements complicated and confusing when they are clearly not. Your are a real master of FUD, I'll give you that ;)

  • The question was a straw man. It is not the IH claim that "Rossi was never able to generate excess heat for IH." They claim that he did not successfully teach them how to make devices that worked, that they were unable to "verify" his technology.


    Abd, your answer is another straw man. As I read it, it says 'did Rossi generate excess heat for IH'? In other words, did they see what they believed to be XSH. Nothing to do with their court case. It is my belief that there were a number of tests performed in Raleigh that IH thought were good enough to induce them to part with more cash. These tests involved at least one melt-down, so something was getting hot - in my experience you can't get Kanthal hot enough to melt Alumina. So IMHO, the answer should be 'yes, he probably did'.

  • "Mad Dog Weaver" wrote:

    He is a driven man and ended up not wanting me around as a result of my questions and actions.


    Why am I not surprised?



    "Mad Dog Weaver" wrote:

    After that, he told T Barker not to let me into the lab stating "keep those lawyers away from here". I'm not a lawyer but was glad to stay out of the way after hearing that and did not visit the lab again until 1MW system shipped to Florida.


    Interesting. Probably T Barker of IH did not want you to hang around either! You probably made a big fool of yourself... That is why you were happy to leave ... ???



    "the Weaver" wrote:

    It is my understanding that Penon went non-responsive to emails in Jan 2016


    "earlier on the Weaver network" wrote:

    Rossi is going to have to wait and find out what Penon sent to others prior to the “final report” in court. ... Regarding your question about Penon – I’m not sure about him. He’s been Rossi’s tool for so long – it could be that this is the last time he gets abused.


    As you know, you have been very schizofrenic about Penon; some days a hero, some days a tool... Are you still making things up as you go?


    "truthful Weaver" wrote:

    The license agreement allows IH the right to files patents based on Rossi's technology as long as he is listed as the main inventor.


    Ok, so now Dewey finally have the hand on the bible after all. I believe this to be exactly true and the exact reason for IH involvement to begin with. It is all about IP and control. IH believed they could pocket it without paying Rossi, but miserably failed. Now they are f*cked. And they now it, since the only PR actions they perform are primitive slandering headed by mad dogs Dewey Weaver and Fred Zoepfl (and team of disciples/played fools backing them up with confusion)


    So, then again since the_Abd_FUD was sent in to diffuse, back to the original question by Peter;


    "Peter Gluck" wrote:

    BTW will you tetify in the Florida Court, with your right hand on the Bible that Rossi never was able to generate excess heat for IH?


    It is a yes/no question you know ...

  • Peter - I am having a hard time interpreting much of your post. Please do not be in a hurry to respond- we have plenty of time. Our agreement was that we discuss matters without you using any of this exchange for your blog and I'm expecting you to keep your word on that.


    Folks who want to detour or stray over into the religious or ethical side of the argument have hijacked what seemed to be your original intent. False accusations, judgemental statements, ignorance, bias, hypocrisy, legalism, etc..etc... will be where this thread ends up if that is the case.


    Now regarding your questions that I could understand:


    Both sides will need to agree on the discovery cycle and terms, things can move quickly if discovery is limited. If that is the case and this survives to trial then 2-3 years of expensive legal warfare is ahead. If broader discovery is mandated then 3 to 5 years are possible at much higher legal expense for both sides.


    Regarding Rossi's technology - he is the one who is killing any opportunity that he has to prove that his IP works. He is also damaging, if not eliminating, his ability to monetize with the way he treats folks who give him money and license his technology. He has chosen a very toxic path but so far remains consistent with his legacy and history. All is not lost yet though - he can still agree to prove that his technology works but should not be able to continue the repeated cycles of running off to another test, customer, partner, improvements ruse under the cover of a flame war. He may or may not have a working technology but you need to understand that his documented attempted deception of IH is going to stun everyone when it becomes public.


    With regards to the qtrly Penon reports, If you're trying to play the gotcha game then let's not go there. I have not specifically seen nor have I asked to see the interim "ERV" reports. I have heard summaries and plan to ask to read those reports directly. Why specifically are you asking this question?


    Regarding the referenced site visit, there was never any of the "great heat" that one would expect with a functional 1MW system given the lack of heat management system(s). The fake customer visit / meeting was a fiasco for Rossi and his supporting actors. That was painfully obvious to everyone from the IH side. It followed a disgraceful script that hilariously stopped once they ran through their material.


    Respectfully, your IP questions are from Rossi's frame of reference. I am not going to take the time to cycle thru that - any open matters there resolve or will soon resolve themselves. The issue is or will soon be moot. Rossi thinks he understands IP and we're happy to let him stay in his present understanding of all things IP.


    Would you care to answer my previous question and explain why you so vociferously believe in and support Rossi?

  • Alan - I'm asking you to put a stop the resumption of Sifferkoll's deranged slander postings. He has resumed the posting of untrue statements that are of his own fabrication and have no basis of truth. You asked me to point that out and it is time to start managing his out-of-control lunacy.

  • "the Weaver" wrote:

    Folks who want to detour or stray over into the religious or ethical side of the argument have hijacked what seemed to be your original intent. False accusations, judgemental statements, ignorance, bias, hypocrisy, legalism, etc..etc... will be where this thread ends up if that is the case.


    Bla, bla, bla ... That is so convenient, isn't it?


    I think we all agree on Peters question being very very important. And NOT hard to interpret. And very simple to answer?


    "Peter Gluck" wrote:

    BTW will you tetify in the Florida Court, with your right hand on the Bible that Rossi never was able to generate excess heat for IH?


    And I also wrote a piece about it here: http://www.sifferkoll.se/siffe…th-his-hand-on-the-bible/

  • Dear Dewey,


    Who has mixed in this discussion the problem of religion
    its ethical aspect? You had.
    I think the judges will not be especially interested.
    With or without testifying the answer defines the situation'
    to be or not to be excess heat?
    peter


  • Would you care to answer my previous question and explain why you so vociferously believe in and support Rossi?


    In my estimation, Peter like myself have invested a lot of faith and hope in Ni/H technology. That support for Ni/H technology is transferred to Rossi as the only practitioner of that art to have a practical application of the technology.


    We both want to see the Ni/H technology taken seriously and we understand that this can only be done if an Ni/H produce goes into massive production. This goal of Ni/H revelation and proof of viability is not in the game plan of IH but it is in the deepest fiber of Rossi's being. Rossi is doing what we want and IH is not. This is why we give Rossi the benefit of the doubt. To undercut Rossi's legal claims, IH now want to undercut the Ni/H technology by disparaging its ability to produce excess heat which is clearly not true. Simply put, undercutting Ni/H to undercut Rossi is bad.

  • Abd,


    WRT your "....but he has also patented it, i.e., the patents in themselves disclose adequate information to create verifiable results"


    But what has Rossi actually patented? Has he patented a new and novel design of a water heater, or LENR based physics reactions that will create excess heat?


    The claims section of Rossi patent is what he has actually protected by patent, nothing Else in the patent description.


    The claims section a list of specific points to be protected.


    As I read the patent claims section , he has not claimed And protected LENR based reactions, but a heater with certain mechanical configurations, a novel fuel wafer, and using Nickel as catalyst. Meaning the patent would also protect a pure chemical based heater reactions with any chemical reactants in a fuel wafer using Nickel as catalyst, and build into a heater as described in the Rossi claims section.


    Since the patent include an electrical heater it would work perfectly.....and verifiably....as at least an electrical heater ;-)

  • Alan - I'm asking you to put a stop the resumption of Sifferkoll's deranged slander postings. He has resumed the posting of untrue statements that are of his own fabrication and have no basis of truth. You asked me to point that out and it is time to…


    shut your trap. Indeed, it is time for you to lay low, so that the LENR crowd forgets about you and the people related to you.


    You've become a liability You could have become a liability for the businesses you have investments in, was it not for IH's disclaimer. Were they anticipating your hysterical meltdown? or, what is the plan, what do you expect to gain by making a fool out of yourself day after day? Baffles me.


    I believe social engineers think they're the cream of the crop, but as they're autistic psychopaths, there is a lot of stuff they don't consider when campaigning online.

  • Abd


    Wrt your "Just about the only way to retain belief in Rossi's work, given what has appeared so far in the lawsuit, is the idea that there is a conspiracy to suppress LENR and that IH is part of it."


    Haha, think not. There are other possibly more likely explanations, like - as I hypothesized earlier:


    - Rossi is extremely suspicous and paranoid of nature - a typical inventor
    - Rossi was "burned" by his experience with Defkalion or the Italian Mafia in earlier days. That Added fuel to his suspicous mind.
    - Then Cherokee, a Huge Company with a lot of funding, arrives wanting an agreement. Rossi ends up with not Cherokee, but a new formed limited liability Company called Industrial Heat, a "one man Company", with limited funding. This fuels Rossi's suspicous mind..... What was IH net worth? Did they have the 100 MUSD up front the agreement? Or what strategy did Industrial Heat have to come up with the 100 MUSD after the one year test?


    Finally Rossi decided to hold back the final secret ingredient until the 100 MUSD where paid, right or wrong.....


    Or even simpler: Rossi found he sold the IP way to cheap, and just don't want to give them them critical secret ingredient.


    Or it's all a big big huge scam. But what would be Rossi's motives? He is 65 years old and should have then fled when he collected the 10 MUSD. It's more than enough to live a happy remaining life some sunny place.

  • this formulation: "main investor visit to Rossi's test site in August 2015 was a faked disaster that was clearly obvious to everyone on the IH side" is highly questionable" First was the site visitable despite the great heat? Second how can somebody "fake" a disaster?


    You misunderstand. It was both fake and a disaster. It was not a fake disaster; it was a real disaster, and a fake demonstration.


    There is nothing "highly questionable" about it. Anyone can see from Rossi's data that the test was fake.


  • I don't think anything will go away if the ERV is published. I think the ERV will claim that the 1MW test was successfull. But I also think there will be a lot of valid criticism against it as soon as it is published. And then the discussions will continue.

  • We both want to see the Ni/H technology taken seriously and we understand that this can only be done if an Ni/H produce goes into massive production.


    That it not true. A properly done scientific experiment with a controlled Ni-H reaction at 10 W would bring in billions of dollars of investment money. It would be far more effective than Rossi's 1-MW fake demonstration.


    This goal of Ni/H revelation and proof of viability is not in the game plan of IH but it is in the deepest fiber of Rossi's being. Rossi is doing what we want and IH is not. This is why we give Rossi the benefit of the doubt.


    You are engaged in wishful thinking. You want this to be true, so you give Rossi the benefit of the doubt. Too much benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, his test was a travesty. It was fake. It was as bad as his worst previous tests. You do not have detailed information, so you cannot confirm that, but that is how things are. You should refrain from supporting Rossi or advocating his work until you get a chance to review this test. You will see that he has nothing. He has been playing you and his other supporters as fools. He is trying to take advantage of you.

  • It is not the IH claim that "Rossi was never able to generate excess heat for IH."


    You are incorrect. I.H. also claimed the reactors (plural) are inoperable. Meaning they do not produce heat. That includes the 1-MW reactor that Rossi made and tested. I.H. does not think it worked. I know why they don't, and I agree 100%.


    I think you made this claim before, and I corrected you then. Please stop doing that. Ask I.H. or Dewey if you don't believe me, but please stop ignoring what I tell you.


    What there has been, over and over, is "demonstration," where Rossi manages. Not independent, ever. Rossi has never trusted anyone to do that.


    That is incorrect. As I said, there was a test conducted in the U.S. when he was in Italy. The instruments belonged to the people who did the test. Unfortunately they do not want me to publish any details. I cannot explain what happened or whether it actually worked. I have only a little information. It looks like it worked, but I can't be sure.

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    As I said, there was a test conducted in the U.S. when he was in Italy. The instruments belonged to the people who did the test. Unfortunately they do not want me to publish any details. I cannot explain what happened or whether it actually worked. I have only a little information. It looks like it worked, but I can't be sure.


    Does this information include calibration with the Joule heater over the full operating temperature range? If not, it can not be relied upon. Does this experiment involve a thermal camera? If so, it can not be relied upon. Did the experimenters have full access to the input power and wiring? If not... Did they use series connected rather than clamp on ammeters? If not... Were the experimenters a university department acting officially for the university? Were they a well known independent testing lab or government lab or major large industrial company? If not... etc. etc. etc.


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    That it not true. A properly done scientific experiment with a controlled Ni-H reaction at 10 W would bring in billions of dollars of investment money. It would be far more effective than Rossi's 1-MW fake demonstration.


    I vehemently agree. I've been saying that since mid 2011. There was absolutely no need to test multiple ecat unit in the form of a megawatt array. Testing a single unit would have been much easier and far cleaner. There was no necessity to run for year! There was no need to use Rossi's lawyer for a customer and Rossi's friend for a referee. I'm conservative with novel claims so I'd prefer 100W or alternatively, self-sustaining long runs with 10W would be fine. It has always been obvious that with a powerful nuclear reaction, no heater would be needed and Rossi's "safety" excuses were specious. Never forget that the hot cat made less power and less "COP" by far (factor of 10) than Levi's simple but defective original demo with the liquid flow calorimetry which took place years before. That is Rossi-progress!

  • Regarding the referenced site visit, there was never any of the "great heat" that one would expect with a functional 1MW system given the lack of heat management system(s).


    To clarify, "heat management system" means ventilation equipment, in the reactor shipping container and also in the room where the reactor was installed. A 1-MW reactor would produce a great deal of waste heat which has to be removed from the room. That is the case even if most of the 1-MW of heat is transferred to the customer site next door.

  • Who has mixed in this discussion the problem of religion
    its ethical aspect? You had.


    Peter,


    I think you and many others have misunderstood what Dewey was expressing. Dewey seemed to be testifying to the nature of the men, Darden and Vaughn. Their faith was one thing mentioned, but not the only thing. It would probably serve you to drop it unless you just can't resist and want to take a stand of moral superiority. This probably could blow up into endless debates about who has committed more atrocities in the past (religious vs. irreligous), who has done more good, who is more hypocritical, and on ad infinitum. My unsolicited advice, just take away from it that Dewey approves of the character of Darden and Vaughn and go back to the issue you are here to discuss.

  • Does this information include calibration with the Joule heater over the full operating temperature range? If not, it can not be relied upon.


    I do not think so, but you are wrong about that. These people used industry standard HVAC instruments and techniques. These techniques are spelled out in great detail by the ASME, and in laws in every state and in all EU counties. They do not call for calibration. As long as you follow these techniques, with a device on this scale your results are certain. Certain enough to prevent explosions and to stand up in court.


    Does this experiment involve a thermal camera? If so, it can not be relied upon.


    That is also incorrect. Standard test techniques do not use a thermal camera. In this case they used industrial thermocouples. Actually a dial thermometer is fine in Georgia or Florida.


    Did the experimenters have full access to the input power and wiring? If not...


    Yes, they installed all the instruments in their own location. Rossi had nothing to do with it.


    The other questions you asked were all good to go.


    I don't have much on this. Just a summary, some graphs and 6 photos of equipment. It looks like a standard HVAC boiler test to me. I may be wrong about that. Perhaps it was not up to code. The procedures for testing boilers are detailed and you have to follow the procedures exactly and fill in work sheets or you lose your license and maybe go to jail if there is an explosion. The full set of test procedures includes things like testing on-off switches, emergency valves, and checking the chimney for clogging or damage. The actual procedures to measure efficiency are basic calorimetry, and not too complicated. See, for example:


    www.cleaver-brooks.com/referen…ler-efficiency-guide.aspx


    This has typical work sheets and tables, similar to those mandated for state safety inspections. You can see that a dial thermometer level of precision would be fine. You will never find a mandate to run a blank or calibration test. That is only done with a scientific experiment. Never with a commercial or industrial installation or inspection. That is not how engineers roll.


    That is not to say Rossi should not have done a calibration during his 1-year test. But if he had simply done a normal HVAC test that would have been convincing. I doubt any aspect of his 1-MW test was up to code. I have reviewed the Florida codes and it sure looked wrong to me. Unfortunately, the Florida government's inspection codes and forms are not available now. The links to them no longer work. They used to be linked from here:


    http://www.stateboilerlaws.com…orida-fl-boiler-laws.html


    Server error:


    http://www.fldfs.com/SFM/bfpr/bfpr-boil_inspect.htm


    You get the picture here:


    http://www.myfloridacfo.com/di…lerSafetyBrochure2015.pdf


    Look at other states and you will get the idea.


    See also:


    https://www.scribd.com/doc/511…-1-Boiler-efficiency-test


    https://law.resource.org/pub/u…br/asme.bpvc.vii.2010.pdf

  • "JackCole" wrote:

    I think you and many others have misunderstood what Dewey was expressing. Dewey seemed to be testifying to the nature of the men, Darden and Vaughn. Their faith was one thing mentioned, but not the only thing. It would probably serve you to drop it unless you just can't resist and want to take a stand of moral superiority. This probably could blow up into endless debates about who has committed more atrocities in the past (religious vs. irreligous), who has done more good, who is more hypocritical, and on ad infinitum. My unsolicited advice, just take away from it that Dewey approves of the character of Darden and Vaughn and go back to the issue you are here to discuss.


    Wow! Tell me, how is it possible that the extremely simple question asked by Peter,


    "Peter Gluck" wrote:

    BTW will you tetify in the Florida Court, with your right hand on the Bible that Rossi never was able to generate excess heat for IH?


    instantly creates an avalanche of diffusions, diversions and general trolling made to spin and FUD it into oblivion by Adb, Jed, Jack, dni and even drags old ghost Maaaary out of the dungeon ????


    It has nothing to do with "faith" , "nature of men", "moral superiority" or whatever. It has everything to do with Dewey answering truthfully with his hand on the bible as Peter so clearly stated and as Dewey so clearly dodged. This behaviour is very very revealing... Don't yoy agree?

  • Jed Rothwell: "You are engaged in wishful thinking. You want this to be true, so you give Rossi the benefit of the doubt."


    I will give anybody who is positive toward LENR the benefit of the doubt. The more positive that they are, the more benefit that I will give. I do not beleive or trust anyone who is negative toward LENR, and that's the way it is.

  • I do not beleive or trust anyone who is negative toward LENR, and that's the way it is.


    Then you will be opposed to all researchers in this field. Every one of them. I have worked with them for many years. Every one of them "is negative" about one experiment or another. In many cases, they dismiss some of their own experiments as failures or mistakes. For example, Mizuno agreed with my analysis that his Fall 2014 experiments were in error:


    http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJreportonmi.pdf


    Does that make him "negative"? I would say it makes him a scientist, doing what a scientist should do.


    I am "negative" about Rossi's 1-MW test, and some of his other tests, because he was sloppy, his methods were absurd, and his conclusions untenable. Also, he was committing fraud by refusing to allow people into his pretend customer site. Cold fusion -- like most nascent science -- is full of terrible mistakes, idiotic conclusions and ridiculous theories. That is how new science looks. If you are not going to "believe" or "trust" people who point out these things, you will throw away all standards and replace science with the lowest denominator group-think and chasing after phantom results.

  • Axil - your blind-faith in Rossi as the saviour of Ni-H LENR after 5+years of misleading misfires is pretty hard to believe. You're a smart guy and big thinker and you need to realize and accept that Rossi is not your ride to the LENR promised land. How do you put so much faith in a man who has so far only revealed himself as a master of deception, a wait until the NEXT test hope generator and a live to fight another day promise monger? He is terrorizing the one active Ni-H researcher who seems to have something useful and you, if you really believed what you are saying, should be outraged by Rossi's EPO patent challenges to Dr. Piantelli. On that subject, do you have some thoughts for Rossi's ongoing harassment of Piantelli, one of the true fathers of Ni-H LENR?

  • To Dewey Weaver,

    I'm answering as an observer without Dewey's inside information. Dewey may obviously fill in as he chooses. Dewey is revealing pieces of the history as he sees fit, but the overall picture of what happened is bifurcating into two major stories, neither one being what we would, ab initio, consider likely as supporters of LENR. One story seems, to me, consistent with all the known facts, including Rossi's claims, and the other requires the acceptance of a global conspiracy of major dimensions. If such a conspiracy exists, we might notice, anyone in the way of it is in serious danger. When people with trillions of dollars at stake 9as alleged and apparently believed by Sifferkoll and others, and billions to spend to protect that) don't like you and have no ethics, you are dead meat. Period. The only thing that would save your life would be that they consider you irrelevant, not an actual hazard to them. In my training, the saying was that "If they are not shooting at you, you are not worth wasting bullets on." (The references in the training are many to people like JFK, Malcolm X, Matahma Gandhi, etc.)


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    Dear Dewey I appreciate the sincerity of your Rossi essay and your dedication to your cause. I understand that your motivation is to fight against a wrong- Andrea Rossi who is evil does harm to the LENR field had backstabbing IH with an unjust Trial despite having achieved nothing, has no viable technology, cannot produce even a bit of excess heat, had performed a catastrophic one year Test.

    Only some of this is fair as to what Dewey says. Peter, if you don't understand the difference, where you create straw man arguments, ask. Please be careful and understand that the difficulties of age -- which I face, though not yet so strongly as you -- can make some things require more attention, sometimes much more. Our knee-jerk responses can become quite unreliable. However, we also can become deeper and more capable of understanding, if we factor for the shifting conditions of our life.


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    So the Trial is actually kind of suicide, you seem to be certain that Rossi will lose. (then why all this fuss?)

    Do not expect people's reactions and behavior to "make sense," unless you can read sympathetically and see the world as they will see it. Then, maybe, you can understand it, and maybe you can even understand how and why people will do things that can be seen by others as "suicidal." I do not think that Rossi is deliberately committing suicide. Rather, remember, I'm maintaining a bifurcated story. One side is what the pseudoskeptics claimed from the very beginning, he was simply a fraud. There are some problems with this scenario, because Rossi's behavior "doesn't make sense" if he is a fraud. However, that, then, requires us to expect that his behavior will "make sense." What if he is a fraud, and insane? (This idea allows him to believe that he has something real. And if he believes it, legally, it's not a fraud, because mens rea is absent (evil intention). However, that's complicated. "Fraud" here means that his results were faked in some way, that he never had a real effect, but this also shades into him having some real effect that was exaggerated by faked results. "Faked," here does not mean intentional fakery, but that the *effect* was deceptive.


    The other scenario is that he has a real effect, and a significant one, with major heat, shown on occasion, but that he is insane (and specifically paranoid). This, then, as an explanation for what happened with IH, suggests that he deliberately withheld the crucial IP from them, because he did not trust them, leading them to fail to verify independently with devices of their own manufacture. A corollary of this is that the Rossi patents are essentially, as they stand, worthless. They do not disclose what is needed to create independent verification. However, for some of them, they could still be amended to create full disclosure. Or someone else could fill in what is missing and effectively patent and own it. By failure to fully disclose in the patents, Rossi could be losing everything.


    The alternative that I see to these is that a global conspiracy is afoot. I have looked at some of the evidence asserted. It is preposterous. It only appears as evidence to those with fixed beliefs already. Could there be a global conspiracy to suppress LENR? Many in the field have thought so, and my general opinion is that this thinking helped keep the LENR community disempowered. Why bother if powerful interests will just stop you? It's not fair, but that's life, would be the thinking. Or some will rail against the conspiracy, uselessly, disempowering themselves by creating the ready impression that they are "conspiracy theorists," which pseudoskeptics are already itching to claim. (Much of the practice of pseudoskepticism involves tossing mud, completely irrelevant to science.)


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    Possibly it is not easy to deal with Rossi- I have not met him.

    Well, read An Impossible Invention, by Mats Lewan. It's not like his behavior suddenly appeared with no visible development. Dewey's account is quite consistent with what Rossi has done in the past, both distant and since his 2011 announcement.


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    He could not [do] harm to the LENR field if we consider the status of it on Jan 13, 2011. Almost zombie.

    That's a narrow view that assumes that all attention is good. There was enormous attention to the claims of Pons and Fleischmann in 1989, and it was premature, and the result was the establishment of a rejection cascade that still persists in some circles. The damage was enormous, I consider the lost opportunity cost of that to be about $25 trillion. Here, there are dual effects operating. The attention created led to more attention to LENR in general (positive effect) but with focus on NiH (which could be a negative effect, easily, wasting countless hours of research time pursuing a myth of major Rossi heat, and even the minor heat that is possible, from Rossi and others, is not nearly as well established as the PdD reaction, where we actually know the fuel/ash/heat relationship, which then, through the ratio, is direct evidence finessing all the arguments about the accuracy of calorimetry. Those who study the field know that the calorimetry is also very well established, but through piles of circumstantial evidence. It is sufficient to convince those who deeply study it, but not those whose examination remains shallow. Heat/helium, I can explain to a child, and have, and it is conclusive. (And, of course, is testable, and is on track for more precise verification, i.e., real science.)


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    You ignore a few facts and factoids [that] can be lies- coming from the Web from Rossi and his circles- if they are lies tell please.

    The thinking attempts to bifurcate reality into two segments, "truth" and "lies." But people may make statements that they think are true, or likely true, but that are false or misleading, and these are not, in colloquial English, "lies," except within emotional arguments. A criminal will proclaim that all the testimony against him is "lies." That is actually a common losing strategy. It is far more powerful, if possible, to say that the witness is telling the truth, but is mistaken (and to show how). "Lie" requires, essentially, mens rea.


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    1- the three intermediary reports of the ERV after 3 6 and 9 months are they [d?]rek and what was the feedback from IH;

    There were intermediary reports, that is not contested, I think. We do not know what the IH response to these was, and we have only Rossi's claims that they were "positive." This, then, is used to imply IH fraud, that they had no intention of paying Rossi. The thinking would be, surely if the reports were positive, they would have accepted them -- or protested, screaming, refusing to cooperate with the test under way. However, we do have an indication that the ERV stopped responding to IH, not answering questions about the testing. If that is true, it shows a fatal defect, unprofessional conduct on the part of the ERV. That someone reporting on Rossi demonstrations -- and the 1 MW test was a demonstration, not an independent verification, no matter how one pushes the words around -- stonewalls questions seems to be a long-established pattern, starting in 2011. I have some theories as to how this evolved, but the pattern is strong. There are many many possible relevant details that we do not know, and "we don't know" is never a sound basis for accusing someone of lying.


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