Have IH let their E-Cat License lapse by inaction?

Dewey, thank you for clear and open answer.

If these, purely my own hypothetical, but important, questions wont touch too close to court case, may I ask further:
- Have IH proposed or attended negotiations with Mr Rossi after he sued IH in April (behind the curtains)?
- If Mr Rossi would indicate interest on such discussions, would IH be open on such proposal?
- if such possible attempts have lead nowhere and parties end up to court and if Rossis technology (E-Cat or Quark) really works, would IH be open to negotiations on selling license back to Rossi for reassigning to new partner he likes. Just to enable technology widespread distribution and 'save the planet'? (price is own matter of course).

You may omit any of these and answer only ones you think is appropriate at this point.

Dear Dewey,

Your last message determines me to think tht you are in the same time- incorrigible, hopeless and untractable. I have asked you normal question s, you seem to be unable to answere and you come with so weak tricks of rhetorics that all I can do is to try to translate your wotrds in "Realese" or "Honestese" - languages you do not master.
You say:

"Peter - I'm going to ignore your intended jabs in my response. Your attempts to parse in hopes of finding a toehold didn't work.

This means, simply "I cannot answer to your damned questions"

You continue:
"There is no excess heat in any Rossi supplied or IH built reactors around Rossi IP. It doesn't work."

OK, but when was this revealed by IH- who have good specialist

A long paragraph follows you are speaking about "IH late at the partY" when I have asked you about a completely differentt thing- when has IH discovered the Tets is not working and how has communicated this to Rossi and - to the World. Till now only Jed has said he knew about this disaster but not when he knew.
nada document even a simple e-mail.

" The rest of your questions are based on the frame of reference that Rossi has created for you to stand on."

Do you really imagine Rossi creating time frames for supporters? What does this mean? I read the daily LENR news and I plus reality are building the most ntural time frame and chronology.
Your time frame in which time flows in the reverse direction is incredible. I would not say there effect comes before cause
because your language is convoluted enough- avoiding any rational answer

To your rhetoric question: "
"Do you acknowledge that Rossi started this PR/Slander flame war?"
I remember what my British friend from the Petrocarbon
Co used to say 45 years ago"Not, on my nellie!"
Rossi has complained because he did not get the money and IH has started the demonization campaign- you were in the avant-garde.
Re your statement that I am unable to read a contract I could answer with a similar XXXX ( censored)thta you are a technology illiterate but:"Not, on my nellie!"

Dewey be rational- if you cannot answer wouldn't it better to NOT answer?
Peter

Peter - I did not expect such an emotional response from you. I have much hope and feel badly that you're in such a negative place. Hanging out with toxic characters will do that to you though and perhaps you should consider a change of venue and pick another home team. You're welcome to give up if you'd like but that doesn't seem to fit your personality. You're correct that Rossi is not capable of creating time frames but he has created your frame of reference and you have accepted his interpretation of the IH / Rossi relationship. Rossi is mercurial and intentionally used deception in what we thought was an attempt to throw off competitors. When we realized that he was using deception against us then we had a choice to make. Would you have stopped it all on the spot or let it play out and learn all that you can in the process in case something like.....let's say.....A LAWSUIT GOT FILED? You should also be able to conceive that IH got some top notch help along the way but that doesn't appear to be in your vernacular or purview of possibilities. Rossi got $11.5M of some very precious LENR research dollars - what do you mean that Rossi did not get the money? Perhaps another question will help.

Is Rossi more money-driven or more cause-driven?

Sifferkoll

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You're a mess dude. Go back to the doc and get your meds adjusted.

I also have a few of these from Dewey, but what do they actually say?

Well, for me first I was a little surprised but then, it is clear receiving such barbed comments is confirmation that something I said must have touched a nerve, maybe getting to some uncomfortable truth he does not want to hear and he has this reaction to try and close the source of the irritation down.

Anyway, I don't feel angry or upset, but I feel two things, (1) that I must not be drawn into the same reaction response narrative (I did for a while and I apologise for that), (2) I feel sorry for him really, since he finds it quite difficult to be rational under pressure.

So I would say, don't be drawn into the same style of communication its playground stuff for verbal bullies and eventually the Forum will suffer, perhaps that's the aim.

Best regards
Frank

Argon - Thank you for your questions - I'll do the best I can in answering. IH has not proposed a negotiation with Rossi and doesn't appear to be in that frame of mind right now based on Rossi's eagerness to go to legal guns, some material flaws in his filed litigation, his apparent lack of understanding of the signed contract, his demonstrated lack of understanding of what it means to license technology into a territory and his ongoing PR/slander/flame war. If there are indications that reality is beginning to set in with Rossi then I am sure that a conversation could be reasonably started. As it stands now, IH is arming up to win a multi-year all out legal war.

I cannot speculate on your other questions but will say this - Rossi needs to live up to his signed, paid up license agreement in the very near future to avoid an exponential increase in his legal headaches. That is a fact, not a threat. If he has an equitable alternative in mind, then he should send a proposal via his attorney with a top-of-mind understanding that IH, our investors and our attorneys are all done with the funny business.

Dewey

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Peter - I did not expect such an emotional response from you. I have much hope and feel badly that you're in such a negative place. Hanging out with toxic characters will do that to you though and perhaps you should consider a change of venue and pick another home team. You're welcome to give up if you'd like but that doesn't seem to fit your personality. You're correct that Rossi is not capable of creating time frames but he has created your frame of reference and you have accepted his interpretation of the IH / Rossi relationship. Rossi is mercurial and intentionally used deception in what we thought was an attempt to throw off competitors. When we realized that he was using deception against us then we had a choice to make. Would you have stopped it all on the spot or let it play out and learn all that you can in the process in case something like.....let's say.....A LAWSUIT GOT FILED? You should also be able to conceive that IH got some top notch help along the way but that doesn't appear to be in your vernacular or purview of possibilities. Rossi got $11.5M of some very precious LENR research dollars - what do you mean that Rossi did not get the money? Perhaps another question will help.

Is Rossi more money-driven or more cause-driven?

I disagree entirely, this response lacks objectivity and clarity, at best opinionated at worst lacks factual integrity and is littered with ad homs.

Dewey, you will see I have turned a new leaf, I'm going to be nice but objective with you.

Have a nice day.

Best regards
Frank

LFWTF - Thanks for leading us to higher ground. Now that is leadership!!!
In fact, I'm giving you another promotion - you're back to LFWTU.
I wish you the best in claiming and holding the high ground. Please don't let us down and remember - we're all counting on you. You can do it Frank... you can do it!!

Frank - was the $11.5M for a paid-up license part of the fact problem? Do you have other insights to share around your factual integrity observation? Have you considered that fact I have a paid-in front row seat as part of your statement? We could use some additional explanation around your ability to determine facts for us - where does your information come from?

Dewey

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I'm upgrading you back from nanoFWTF to littlefrankieWTF

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I'm giving you another promotion - you're back to LFWTU

Dewey, you are so kind, thank you. Sorry if I touched another nerve.

Have a wonderful day

Best regards
Frank

Well I can see that the dogs of flame war aren't interested in playing nice. So be it.

Sufferkult - Did you know that IH paid $11.5M to Rossi? That could have funded SKINR for years. One way or the other, Rossi is going to have to answer for taking that money and not delivering.

Dewey

Whenever Rossi says anything, he always ends with 'warm regards'.

You don't even say 'Shalom'

Best regards
Frank

PS: Thanks for the further upgrade to 'Frank' by the way, much appreciated. Maybe we are in a better place now, lets hope it stays that way.

Frank - thanks for staying on the point and walking us thru this dangerous jungle. Do you think that Rossi is more money-oriented than cause-oriented?
Cheers,
Dewey

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OK, but when was this revealed by IH- who have good specialist

This is none of your business.

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A long paragraph follows you are speaking about "IH late at the partY" when I have asked you about a completely differentt thing- when has IH discovered the Tets is not working and how has communicated this to Rossi and - to the World.

As Dewey and I told you several times, I.H. discovered this early in the test. Obviously they told Rossi.

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Till now only Jed has said he knew about this disaster but not when he knew.

No, not "only" me. Many people both inside and outside I.H. knew. We did not talk about it because they asked us not to, and because we sincerely hoped the problems would be fixed. As I said about a dozen times, you can be sure I sincerely hoped this because I signed up for Mats Lewan's symposium.

I did tell you when I knew. Several times I told you. It was several months into the test. I don't recall exactly when. What difference does it make?

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nada document even a simple e-mail.

You have no business asking for copies of e-mail. Even if Dewey or someone else provided you with this, you would only dismiss it as a lie, just as you dismiss what Dewey and I tell you. Anyone can write a fake e-mail, after all.

Why don't you demand some proof from Rossi? As him for some data and a schematic of the equipment. He has given you no data, and no reason to believe anything he says. Why do you demand more and more from Dewey, and nothing from Rossi?

Dewey

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Frank - thanks for staying on the point and walking us thru this dangerous jungle. Do you think that Rossi is more money-oriented than cause-oriented?
Cheers,
Dewey

In the early days I believe he sold his house to raise money for his research.

Shalom
Best regards
Frank

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I will try now to give some answers to Dewey Weaver trying to have maximum possible empathy for his difficult position.
I very friendly recommend him to read and apply my 20 Rules of Real Life Problem Solving and to use a better strategy

A. My question re testifying that ROssi has NO excess heat with hand on Bible actually had a simple solution answer and he found it with great delay.
It is deadly sin to lie to God but it is allowed to lie to the Evil(in this case-me)
He had to say spontaneously: "Yes I will" but not do this if case during the trial.
Instead it was an usual action of carpet bombing, coventrysation
from Dewey and friends trying to destroy the question and a late response to a somewhat changed question.
A honest answer "I am certain/not certain" there is excess heat
It is a bit beyond my knowledeg... was not expected.

B> Dewey seems to be very interested why I believe Rossi and why I support him.
There are two questions here, actually.
WHY I believe Rossi? Simply because he says natural logically consistent things having continuity while Dewey and Co- IH Not
they came late and surprisingly with an oposite scenario that is missing a definite TIME FRAME.
Dewy, to each statement of Rossi please say is it true or not?
1- Rossi and IH had a valid contract, for a successful test IH had to pay a great sum to Rossi.

2- IH has not paid and said the Test was not good; where is the first written document serious warnings from IH to Rossi saying this, after the 1st, 2nd, 3rd ERV report?

3- The IH employess have participated at the test in parallel with Rossi' men; is ther a written document showing they are dsconted with the Test tat is a disaster;

4- when was iscovered the total incompetence of the ERV, the inadequacy of the measuring instruments nad was sated that the measuremnets are fatally flawed? (a document at least from 2015?);

5- Rossi claims " All I know is that Darden and JT Vaughn collected 150 million $ after the test of the 1 MW E-Cat began, using the first and second report of the ERV as a tool to get the money, then after the 4th report ( equal to the former ones) they said what they said and did not pay" Is this slander false accusation?
Dewey you are using well the words but documents speak
Show us please a single warning message to Rossi - "we see no excess heat, test bad!" before the damned Trial!?

B. Why I support Rossi?
Here I have the duty to tell that the merit is in great part yours.
I have seen with some horror the violent blitzkrieg attacks against Rossi - all means, heavy artillery- yes, carpet bombing style and I found this injust and not civil.
Injustice somewhere is injustice everywhere I have decided to fight for reason legality. You want to annihilate Rossi and do not care a bit for the collateral victims- LENR+ technology, the E-Cats.

An other injustice will be if you will try to ccuse me of illwill
and spirit of destruction, slander for this message it is catually simple curiosity.
Peter

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I am trying my best to follow your comment...your writing structure is extremely odd and incoherent (not a bash but a fact). Bascially from what I can gather, you trust Rossi because:

A) God. Ummm okay. (this one is quickly lost with this agnostic)

B) Because he says "natural logically consistent things" and TIME FRAMES. Are you kidding me? First of all Rossi has produced exactly ZERO natural logically consistent things...he has produced ZERO of anything at this point besides what I believe to be fraudulent claims actually...so this is just absurd. Then if we want to talk about time frames....is there a time frame that Rossi was actually able to hold to? So many misses promises of time frames of tests, production and commercialization...so much talk of his "factories of greatness" that he spoke of having..oh I could go on and on about Rossi and missed time frames. Again...just absurd.

C) All of the questions you ask to Dewey have either pretty much been answered (guessing not the way you would like) or are questions that will come out in the court case. I don't understand why you interject more questions in your answer...odd.

D) Because you feel Rossi is being personally attacked.

I gotta say Peter, your answers have absolutely no basis in fact or even logic...you take most of the opportunity of your answer to Dewey's single simple question to just ask more questions. This does however give me more insight into your position and motives...

Do you think that Rossi is more money-oriented than cause-oriented?

Rossi understands that Capital is an enabling tool which is ultimately directed to his primary goal, massive production of LENR products. The capital is directed to the establishment of a robotized LENR reactor production factory.

I am interested in any contraindications in Rossi's behavior that shows other intent.

This intent is the seat of my support for Rossi's behavior and methods.