A simplified theory of LENR

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The biggest such particle as defined in by Rossi's patent is 100 microns. The smallest is 1 micron.

Could You once do a proper calculation for e.g. a nanoparticle of 10nm?? (surface app. 2 x 10 x10 nm)

And then please explain us how you would find billions of nano-pores which certainly must be bigger than a single atom missing!

Thanks!

Axil: SPP waves need a more or less planar and regular surface to build up (behind an obstacle).

A wild cluster of nanoparticles only may build up a bunch of different unsynchronized SPP's not a coordinated one...

Further on You should read the SPP papers. (In a thermic environment!) There you can notice that only one cell out of hundreds, carries the whole SPP charge surplus. In average the stored energy is not that much greater as Your phantasy likes it to be.

May be you could find out how large the catalytic surface in Holmlids experiment was? I think there it were not nanoparticles...also in a non thermic/statistical env.

Hey Axil: Just posting or reposting references is no help!

Do You really think, that we can extrapolate SPP behaviour measured at 8 Kelvin to an LENR reaction at 1000K ?????? (Did You read your post?)

This is not a low T quantum effect thread!

So 8 Kelvin is a high temperature for You?

When I visited the IBM lab about 30 years ago, they were proud of their cryogenic environment. Josephson physics working at high T would be a real boost for microcomputers.....

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Another reference show a BEC at 500K

I hopped over the paper, which indeed is interesting. But we cannot apply it to nano-powder LENR, because the polarition cage is of 10 micrometer size what is far bigger than any nano-particle. Further on they need a highly specific sandwich layers to reach the goal.

But I agree with You that SPP waves, with a live time greater than 5ps, may strongly influence LENR behavior! Did you read the recent ICMNS19 Takashi paper about DD fusion?

@axil The picture you linked comes from this study and it illustrates the Astroblaster mechanism, which I talked about here. But the surface plasmons are quite subtle and slow waves - what initiates the cold fusion are Astroblaster-like collisions of atom nuclei itself mediated with much faster longitudinal waves which are spreading in all directions within materials, preferably perpendicularly to surface, i.e. the polarons.

Axil: The plasmons are surface waves, which cannot collide in similar way, like the transverse waves of light. But the surface vortices behave like the particles in similar way, like the vortex rings and they already can collide and interact under astroblaster-like amplification of energy of collisions, because they can be formed in different size. Note also that the plasmon tornadoes must collide in low-dimensional fashion along a single line. Naive collectors of links like you therefore push the idea, that the surface plasmons are behind cold fusion without realizing, that what amplifies the energy here aren't plasmons, but their longitudinal artifacts, so called the polaritons.

Why not looking at something more concrete?

The Dubinko paper p.64 in the ICMNS 19 proceedings? Same stuff but related to LENR.

http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedr.pdf

/* Until the LENR theorist can explain the entire LENR package, he should refrain from premature speculation and raise his pen from paper */

I can fully subscribe it, if only the premature speculations weren't the subject of your own posts so often. Anyway, it has a meaning to discuss the amplification effects of plasmons and cold fusion just because there are common points, which would point to mechanism of cold fusion. But we should always keep on mind, that the seemingly applicable examples can be still just an analogies and that the real cold fusion actually doesn't utilize surface plasmons.

/* A holistic theory of LENR must explain ALL of the consequences of LENR including the emission of copious electrons and other sub atomic particles */

Yes, but the typical LENR doesn't release the copious amounts of particles - the formation of these particles is the domain of hot fusion instead. But because there is a seamless transition between cold fusion and hot fusion, then these particles can be still released once the fusion gets "warm", for example during application of external fields, coherent laser pulses and/or reactor overheating.

I already explained, that the classical fusion runs when the atom nuclei collide in low-dimensional fashion along long chains. These long stacks of atom nuclei also represent effective absorption environment for resulting particles, so no particles get released, only their synchrotron radiation during breaking. But this is indeed an ideal situation and when the fusion gets hot, then the atoms collide harder, but also along less than ideal lines. So that some particles can leave the collision vector and to escape into an outside. The hotter the cold fusion is, the shorter are linear stacks along which the atoms collide and the more particle fragments get released.

/* Why not looking at something more concrete? The Dubinko paper p.64 in the ICMNS 19 proceedings? Same stuff but related to LENR */

The Dubinko' paper discusses phonons (i.e. longitudinal bulk waves), not plasmons (transverse surface ones). So it gets more close to subject but not quite. IMO what collides during cold fusion are single lines of atoms, which get occasionally jammed and squashed against each other. The plasmons are still collective waves of many neighboring atoms similar to tsunami: they're also longitudinal, but because their energy is not so concentrated, the energy amplification effects cannot get so extreme.

The particle jam actually doesn't require the crystal lattice, despite just the regular arrangement of atoms within metal lattices promotes the formation of jams heavily. The random arrangement of particles also leads to jams, once their compression gets sufficiently fast and high (compare the LeClair's experiments with laser induced shock waves inside the water as an example). Here you can see the particle jam visualised by polarized light: because the light passes across kissing points of particles, the path of jams can be visualized in this way. Note that these paths follow geometry of foam, because their formation remains driven by the same principle of least action, like the spontaneous formation of surfaces inside the foam. Which leads into dodecahedral symmetry in 3D (the foam of dark matter) and or hexagonal symmetry in 2D (LeClair's crystals of water during shock waves against the wall).

Therefore we can also consider the LeClair experiments as an example of cold fusion, but because the collision lines aren't represented by tight arrangement of atoms within lattice, but less compact emergent jams inside the fluid, this fusion doesn't utilize the input energy so effectively and also the production of hot fragments of fusion (neutrons) gets much higher (which finally forced LeClair to interrupt his experiments). In this sense LeClair experiments represent typical warm fusion, which utilizes both aspects of hot and cold fusion.

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A holistic theory of LENR must explain ALL of the consequences of LENR including the emission of copious electrons and other sub atomic particles.

I have theory/method that explains many things and don't contain new physics. It is not same as Axils theory, but bose condensation more than room temp exisit in it (but is not absolute nessessary).
But I have real life mysterious that is very hard to explain and situation is extreme dangerous to people.

Let say that there are 5*10⁶ magnetite crystals per gram in brain material. (http://sedonanomalies.weebly.com/brain-magnetite.html)
No-one don't know fore 100% sure what are they purpose.

And if somehow magnon based BSEC exist in hot reactor and there are human brain near and you stay say 8hrs (short visit may be dangerous too). geiger, RF, compass etc. meters don't show any dangerous levels, but reactor still emit something becaus it give feelings inside observer brain.
In Axil metrononm example there was foam plate that syncronize metronoms. But what is medium that communite between reactor and brains magnetite?? New radiation or what? Have anybody ideas?

After visit near reactor it is posible to feel working reactor over kilometre distance inside brains.. And it is more dangerous (+powerfull?) than LSD. It took more than month in hospital to find back in that world and damage still exisit. Extreme dangerous, no meter to show and when feel it it may be too late. It dosn't kill (for stright, but later sueside may..) but mental damage..