The unrecognized laws of LENR

  • There are rules for the creation of the LENR reaction that are not yet recognized. These rules are associated with the formation of Bose condensation. LENR works because of the formation of metalized hydrides that are superconducting. These metalized hydrides are BECs and their formation follows the rules of BEC formation. Unless the LENR experimenter follows these rules of BEC formation, LENR will not happen for them.


    Isotopic purity


    The study of BEC formation began about 2 decades ago and over that time has grown into a major specialty in the study of physics and quantum mechanics. One of the major rules that applies all the time is that since a BEC is a matter wave, that matter that forms the wave must be pure. Any matter that interposes on that pure collection of matter from which the BEC will form is a poison to LENR.


    Protium, the most abundant isotope of hydrogen is poisoned by deuterium and a mixture of protium and deuterium will not condense into a BEC. The gas that forms metalized hydrogen must not be poisoned by any other gases such as air, oxygen, nitrogen, water or deuterium.


    Bosons are required.


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    With some exceptions, the matter that produces the Bose condensate must be composed of bosons. Reference:https://science.nasa.gov/scien…nasa/2002/20mar_newmatter Not all atoms can form Bose-Einstein condensates -- "only those that contain even numbers of neutrons plus protons plus electrons," says Ketterle. Ketterle made his BECs from sodium atoms. If you add the number of neutrons, protons and electrons in an ordinary sodium atom, the answer is 34 -- an even number suitable for Bose-Einstein condensation. Atoms or isotopes of atoms with odd sums can't form BECs. Strange, but true.


    As an example, hydrogen is a boson composed of a proton (spin ½) and an electron (spin ½). A boson is formed when the spins of those two sub atomic components of prodium are combined together into a hydrogen atom. A BEC of hydrogen will not form from the H2 molecule or from ionized hydrogen. A BEC will form from water where oxygen 16 is a boson and hydrogen is a boson. Mixtures of heavy water and light water will not work nor will water formed from any oxygen 17 or oxygen 18 contamination.


    The strange case of deuterium and Lithium 7… attractive atoms.


    Lithium 7 is a boson because it has 3 protons, 4 neutrons and 3 electrons. That adds up to 10 ½ spins. Lithium 6 cannot form a BEC because it has 9 ½ spins. Lithium 6 will interfere with the formation of Lithium 7 BEC and poison it. Therefore, it is a requirement to use pure Lithium 7 to produce a successful LENR reaction.


    Deuterium will form a Bose condensate as witnessed by many LENR experiments. But BEC science has not recognized that deuterium BECs are possible, so what is going on.


    Fermion atoms can form BECs if these atoms are attractive.


    Reference:


    http://atomcool.rice.edu/static/sackett_bjop_1997.pdf


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    Bose-Einstein condensation (BEC) has been observed in magnetically trapped atomic gases of 87Rb, 7Li, and 23Na. Although the condensates are till very dilute gases, the interactions between atoms have been seen to play a significant role in determining their physical properties. For 87Rb and 23Na atoms, the interactions are effectively repulsive, which causes the volume of the condensates to increase and modifies their excitation spectra. In contrast, the interactions between 7Li atoms are effectively attractive, and are thought to prevent BEC from occurring at all in a homogeneous gas. As recently as 1994, attractive interactions were predicted to preclude BEC in a trap as well, but it is now understood that this is not the case, and that BEC can occur with a limited number of atoms in the condensate. For 7Li in our trap, the predicted limit is about 1400 atoms.


    So like Lithium 7, deuterium must be atomically attractive and able to form BECs. But in hydrogen plasma, prodium will not form a BEC but deuterium will because it will ionize making the deuterium ion a boson.


    But is deuterium atomically attractive?


    The assumption that deuterium is producing the LENR effect in many electrolytic LENR experiments might not be true. Could deuterium's role in the LENR reaction just be a fantasy born out of the dream that hot fusion is producing He4. The active LENR agent in these experiments could be metallized water as claimed by LeClair. Does the LENR reaction take hold in non-ionizing LENR experiments with deuterium where water is not present?

  • So like Lithium 7, deuterium must be atomically attractive and able to form BECs. But in hydrogen plasma, prodium will not form a BEC but deuterium will because it will ionize making the deuterium ion a boson.


    Do You really believe that micro Kelvin effects have macro Kelvin (>300) counterparts !!!!!

  • Do You really believe that micro Kelvin effects have macro Kelvin (>300) counterparts !!!!!



    I have explained how the cavities in the metal lattice act to cool the hydride through the application of high pressure and the heisenberg uncertainty principle.


    See post


    The possible Role of Axions in LENR


    Experimentally, superconductivity and the Meissner effect have been detected in room temperature cavities in iron oxide by Holmlid.


    http://phys.unsw.edu.au/STAFF/VISITING_FELLOWS&PROFESSORS/pdf/MileyClusterRydbLPBsing.pdf


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    These high density clusters have a long life time and with deuterons and – in contrast to protons – as being bosons which should be in a state of Bose-Einstein-Condensation (BEC) at room temperature (Miley et al. 2009,2009a).


    The issue here is where do the electrons go? Does iron oxide play a role at sequestering the electrons so that the fermionic contribution of the electrons do does not interfere with rydberg matter formation?

  • /* LENR works because of the formation of metalized hydrides that are superconducting */


    The simplest LENR known so far consist of shotting of deuterons into molten lithium (if we neglect the low-dimensional collisions in deuterium itself). Which metalized hydrides do we have in there?


    In the Sternglass neutron production case, it looks like a formation of a polariton BEC on the silver is producing these neutrons and the associated transmutations.


    The application of protons to lithium 6 will convert Lithium 6 to lithium 7. This reduces the poisoning effect of Lithium 6 in the metalized lithium 7 formation process and therefore increases the vigor of the LENR reaction.

  • The magic in the Papp engine was all inside the fuel. Nobody has yet been able to crack the Papp fuel formulation. Three months before Papp died from cancer, he destroyed his fuel to keep his secret forever. This transgression against the general welfare of humanity just begs to be rectified.


    I rightly am assuming that the Papp reaction is a LENR reaction involving noble gases. One clue we get is based upon the lack of radiation that the Papp engine produces and that it operates cold. This drives us to conclude that the Papp fuel must be based on Bose condinsation.


    Papp invented a fuel preparation machine. No replicator of the Papp engine has ever understood what that device did for the Papp reaction. From our growing insights into the cause of LENR, and that poisoning of the LENR reaction is produced by incompatible BEC matter wave isotopes, the Papp fuel preparation machine must have produced pure BEC compatible noble gas isotopes for the five types of noble gases that Papp used and blended them together into a water based fuel nix when Papp loaded his cannon.


    A clue that this guess but holds merit is the fact that Papp used five separate flasks to load his cannon during the desert test, Each flask must have contained a isotopically pure noble gas formulation that was BEC formation compatible with its use as a feedstock into the reaction.


    As an example, a list of the stable Xenon isotopes follows with their natural abundances.


    124Xe1 0.09
    126Xe 0.09
    128Xe 1.92
    129Xe 26.44
    130Xe 4.08
    131Xe 21.18
    132Xe 26.89
    134Xe 10.44
    136Xe 8.87
    136Xe 8.87


    It would be impossible to get a isotopically compatible BEC to form from that large list of BEC incompatible isotopes.

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    I am sure Axil, that you must be familiar with Pekka Sorinen's patent for Etiam Oy? He is very big on Bose condensates- it is an interesting read. And FWIW Etiam Oy - a hybrid government/university tech business, are serious players in the energy game, I had some dealing with them about 5 years back over a gasification plant they have developed, they are totally professional. They have even been put into the frame (by rumor only) as Rossi's Quark-X customer.


    https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=WO&NR=2013076378A2&KC=A2&FT=D&ND=3&date=20130530&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

  • /* In the Sternglass neutron production case, it looks like a formation of a polariton BEC on the silver is producing these neutrons and the associated transmutations */


    A silver? Silver (and indium) foils were uses for detection of neutrons in Sternglass experiments, not for their production.
    IMO you're speculating too deeply about superficially learned things.

  • /* In the Sternglass neutron production case, it looks like a formation of a polariton BEC on the silver is producing these neutrons and the associated transmutations */


    A silver? Silver (and indium) foils were uses for detection of neutrons in Sternglass experiments, not for their production.
    IMO you're speculating too deeply about superficially learned things.


    A BEC like structure on the Ag-surface will polarize the first layers of Ag. This will lead to more or less well structured electron shells which (Ag locally!) behave not like classical QM orbits. (Some Omega is sparsely populated!) As a conclusion: A reproduction of this experiment will most probably find much lower energy sweet spots for (Ag-) LENR.


    In an experiment, this can easily be proven, as it was done in the famous Li (223eV) paper, where the incident angle (of e-beam) is crucial!!

  • /* where the incident angle (of e-beam) is crucial */


    Yes, I'm using it as an evidence of the low-dimensional collisions model of LENR: you must hit the atoms perpendicularly to the surface of lithium, otherwise the momentum of ions will not be transferred to the high amount of atoms effectively. The Astroblaster effect applies only when the atoms collide in perfectly linear fashion. The silver has nothing to do with it, particularly because it was present neither during Li (223eV), neither during Sternglass experiment.


    Please, don't invent stuffs which you don't understand and please don't repeat your BS like AxilAxil mantra with no respect to actual context given, logics the less. I'll not believe you anyway, as I'm person of strictly critical thinking: once I don't see some logical connections, I don't believe in anything and you're wasting your time with me here. I'm not interested about void interpretations (boson condensate, hydrogen metal, axions, tachyons, whatever...) until they don't bring the prediction of some phenomena, explanation the less. It's my full right to act in this way.

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