Thus the credit to Alan Smith for what may end up being a very notable quotable should 'dark' and 'matter' end up mattering.
Validation of Randell Mills GUTCP - a call for action
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Randell Millls claim to have gotten supporttive feedback from the labs he sent sampels of hydrino compound to. And indeed as he says
"Hydrino in a bottle - Game Over"
Expect a report before late August, he wants some patent filings before going public.
stefan,
Interesting of course, like everything about Mills is. Can you provide a link? Did not see on BrLP's website. Thx.
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One problem with the tempting "hydrino in a bottle" story is that Mills projects a lot of claims to come true "s00n" and NeVer is a better description of when to expect fruition. A second problem is that in the past he sent samples mainly if not entirely to his friends and paid colleagues such as those at Rowan University.
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Stefan,
So what caused him to say "Hydrino in a bottle...game over"? To me, it looks like that came out of the blue, unprompted. Did I miss a new report, or something? Yes, I read all the praise, support, doubt after he said it, but why did he say it in the first place?
I see his link to the CIHT report, but that was released in 2013. Confused.
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@Shane
Earlier he have said that he got the results and they where fantastic. If sent only to friends it can be weak, but in principle he is right and if he got it in a bottle it is indeed game over.
To compare, in computer programming, when you can reproduce a bug, typically it's game over for the bug because you can now do tests. It's the same here, all possible tests can
be used to track down properties of the hydrino - if it indeed exists . It's lightens the matter up.
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Good to see Mills has a sense of humor (?). Now if only he would get a product to market:
Question to Mills: "Hopefully you will finally get some traction on the existence of the hydrino.. Hasn't it been about thirty years now? That's long enough to be wandering in the wilderness."
Mills: "I wasn’t wandering. I solved all the fundamental problems of physics and chemistry, identified and isolated dark matter, produced the greatest power source that man has ever seen, designed and developed advanced power systems, invented the next generation of energetics, the replacement of flight, and more. What’s it been, over 100 years for quantum physicists fumbling in the dark and making science darker, the opposite of enlightenment? And how many billions of taxpayers' money was wasted?" -
I am not so sure this is humor. BTW, where are the independent tests of the greatest power source man has ever know? Where can I go to get a bit of dark matter or hydrinos to get tested? How many millions of investor money did Mills spend over those thirty years without a single widely accepted result , tangible or theoretical? And BTW, for most practical things, modern physics works just fine all the way and beyond the delicate timing of GPS signals from satellites moving so fast that relativity is a significant factor needed to calculate in order to yield useful accuracy. And then there is the LHC. And neutrino detectors. Seen any hydrino detectors recently?
Let us know when someone not working closely with Mills, has applied a serious calorimeter to Mills' machine. So far, it seems to dump a lot of current into a conductor in a small volume without adequate cooling. Any wonder it makes light and noise? Sorry, Shane D. but like all the weird free energy schemes before him, including probably GEC, it is very improbable that Mills will ever prove that his ideas work, much less "get a product to market."
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Where can I go to get a bit of dark matter or hydrinos to get tested?
Soon...August to be more precise, he will have a bottle of Hydrino's, and game over!...or so he says.
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Soon...August to be more precise, he will have a bottle of Hydrino's, and game over!
If he is consistent and behaves true to his usual form, he will show something. But nobody outside his believers will agree it is hydrinos and his evidence for it will be couched entirely in terms of his proprietary and mostly disagreed with version of science. That's my prediction anyway. Or do you really think he demonstrated the most important new power source in the world? He demonstrated that a heavy current through a mostly uncooled short circuit makes a bright flash. I think we already knew that. So what should a bottle of hydrinos look and act like anyway?
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SOT,
I can not figure Mills out. He did some legitimate basic CF work in light water systems, alongside some of the early pioneers. Never hid what he was doing and put it all out there for others to see...including NASA. Then he switched gears and started developing his CIHT. IMO he had it extensively validated by independent scientists. Then onto to this Sun Cell.
He is an open book in regards to what he is doing, and where he is going. Gives regular updates, works with respected companies. Has a science team, employees, BODs, Advisory Board, and investors to keep him honest.
Sounds promising, but when I weigh that against his many unfulfilled promises of a commercial product, that seems to always coincide with his need for another round of funding, it sounds a little less so. The latest of course, the SunCell, where as long ago as 20 months ago he was predicting the thermal version being only months away. Then on to the PVC version, then back to the thermal, and now a ceramic. There is no doubt he knew each was not ready for market when he said they were, so there is no getting around the fact that he does not always tell the truth.
So I stay semi-neutral, and play it like a politician. If he comes through one day, I can say I supported him. If instead, his investors accuse him of deceit, then I can say I never believed much in him.
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There is nothing stopping Mills, who claims his latest machine makes incredible amounts of thermal and light energy and power, from getting a paid for believable test. There are many private labs in the US, some like Earthtech (Scott Little and company) who are quite friendly to unusual claims yet quite competent and credible. There are many others. Mills could also market a reduced scale model or testing kit. I bet thousands of his enthusiasts would buy one and publicize any positive results that they get.
SOT,
If your premise is that LENR is not real...which it is, then it naturally follows that you would think anyone, or any group, who validate are "not believable". Skeptic motto: "if it looks good, it can't be, because LENR is not real. We may as well shut LF down now. Anything original you would like to add?And don't you think it insulting to the many that have done the validating of Mills work, when you indirectly accuse them of not being "competent and credible"? Simply because they had a positive result, instead of the negative result you felt more appropriate, because of you do not believe in LENR?
As to the kit, Mills mentioned in an update about 6 months ago his goal is to put one out. I expect that soon.
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Right Shane. He did not hide it. In 2003 Prof. Conrads found a university where he could carry out some research to find out, if there is anything interesting in Mills experiments. He had the experiment running for about a year completly without Mills being around. They found completely unexplainable behavior of a simple hydrogen plasma:
Not that unexplainable if one follows Holmlid's work. The experimental conditions described in this paper are very close to those required to produce ultra-dense hydrogen.
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@SOT It looks like BrLP just wanted to share enough for the funding to not drain, historicaly, and was quite satisfied with not having the world acknowledge the hydrino theory.
If they are now determined to prove the hydrinos, and with a compound of it, It's just a matter of time for better labs is acknowledging the findings. Probably labs he has been
cooperated before with is the first line to test the compound. If he want's to prove it it's enough to keep sending samples to labs, asking for validators etc and in the end there would
be a great mystery to solve for the akademics. Never before has the need to prove the technology been written in their roadmap. So I expect things to be different now.
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Alan Smith : This thread is about validation of a theory: Could you move all the posts about Mills company etc. to the clearance thread?
Here some news for the gurus: A physicist working on base QM theory (L. Chiatti) found an alternative explanation for the Mills space/time contraction logic, basically proving Mills approach.
https://www.researchgate.net/p…jective-Quantum-Mechanics
He also mentions De Vries finding of a pure mathematical formula for the fine structure constant.
http://www.physics-quest.org/fine_structure_constant.pdf
Things are moving and point into the direction that all the experimenters should use the Mills Lorenz derived gamma constant and not the original one.
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A number of posts discussing BLP's business activities and not related to scientific aspects of their work have been moved to 'clearance'. I apologise in advance for any loss of coherence.
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Mills just added some new "hydrino" spectrum measurements:
https://brilliantlightpower.co…st-Power-Paper-050818.pdf
Basically its his old work plus some added external ones with more details (to many to read them all) . He still sees only H(1/4) resonance, what is no prove for a stable hydrino.
He also believes that: "The applied field could not be the source of the emission that extended to 122.4 eV"
He ignores the fact that silver has a low laying nuclear gamma state with a high momentum and the any LENR at the W cathode could produce dangerous radiation. I hope he is still healthy...
He also measured an interesting element (XPS) at 498.5 eV that can be explained with an other model...
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Here one more hint I got from my research fellows.
Math Gurus only:https://digitalcommons.ohsu.ed…tm_campaign=PDFCoverPages
Silvestri shows in depth that the quantization (h*n) of QM can be derived from the Maxwell equations, basically from the multi pole extensions.
One more prove of Mills work!
