Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

  • If he is somehow measuring only or mostly the output spikes, then I guess that would remove the observed effect.

    Excuse my ignorance : I've heard of non RMS multimeters being fooled, but what about true RMS meters, such as the Peaktech 3430 Rossi uses as per your post 146594?


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    Equipment listed in the ECW short report:

    Wattmeter: Perel E305EM5G https://www.velleman.eu/products/view/?id=382032

    Power supply: XD-360-12 (couldn't find it, but could be a standard switching-type 360W 12V fixed voltage PSU)

    Ammeter: PEAKTECH 3430 https://www.peaktech.de/produc…rodukt/peaktech-3430.html

    Resistor: Mouser TE1000B1K0J https://eu.mouser.com/ProductD…nectivity-CGS/TE1000B1K0J

  • Mark U

    I'm not an expert either and mostly only have experience with cheap models, but as far as I am aware of, depending on the meter, the True RMS capability might not operate in all modes, or might need a regular waveform (even if highly distorted) to give reliable results.


    The Peaktech 3430 manual mentions:


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    True RMS Measurements

    This model measures AC voltages and currents in True RMS and is therefore independent of the waveform to make an accurate measurement. Most alternating voltages and currents are expressed in rms values called the root meander (RMS) value. The RMS value is the square root of the averaging of the square of AC voltage or current value. But they actually measure the average value of the input voltage or current assuming that the voltage or current is a sine wave. Therefore, rectifier circuit multimeters are faulty if the input voltage or the current has a waveform other than a sine wave.

  • Thanks for your comments . . I've been off-grid cell only, so unable to respond or research much.


    I don't have an answer. ... Just question.


    Also wondering (without answers) whether hf components could bypass the resistor .. eg skin currents blah blah. Don't know if that would over or underestimate the power.


    Put the resistor in a calorimeter as a cross-check?

  • Put the resistor in a calorimeter as a cross-check?

    A water flow calorimeter based on a direct reading of parameters can be useful as double check paying attention to not create a short circuit to the resistor.

    To be clear none “calorimeter calibration” must be invoked (garage researchers use a “calibration” or “table with large correction values”, they think in any cases to be able to recover their bad calorimetry) because a good calorimeter has a small loss (less than 5%) so it’s enough to evaluate the heat produced when the declared excess is so large.

  • I have what I believe should be a simple question: IIRC, sometime in the first half of 2019, we were told that Rossi was going to demonstrate a new improved widget which would put everyone's doubt to rest. That demonstration was held, after substabtuve dekatm, in Stockhold in the end of 2019. With a few loyal exceptions, the Stockholm demonstration was ridiculed and treated as a flop.


    So here we are, a year or two later (although some might say a decade or more later), and we are now prepping for a NEW EXCITING DEMO with a new unnamed party, with certification from another certifyer, who is unlikely to let us see the safety certification and, rather than actually produce a product which would have immediate impact on the world, global warming, etc., we should all be patient with the progress of Dr. Rossi's magical machine, which can not only produce and harness heat, electricity, other forms of energy and produce the perfect toasted bagel.


    Aside from the bagel, is that an accurate summation of the last 18-24 months?

  • I'm confused. Why are people here talking as if Rossi has something to test? What evidence leads you to that conclusion? And more specifically even if he did have "something", what leads to the conclusion that he would ever allow testing which could actually show the ecat doesn't work?

  • Can anybody guess what Rossi's SKL plasma contained? Unfortunately the spectrum looked fudged perhaps to hide from competitors his revolutionary new e-cat. My bet was on Hg with other precious metals added in. Well it did closely resemble a run down Hg vapor lamp!

  • Give or take a few delays, he has always produced something .


    I evaluated the stockholm test as invalid because he didn't measure the voltage or current across the device (allowing an improbable but easy fake).


    If he had, I would have rated it as maybe.

    I think the fake was not improbable. It was near certain. Flipping the switch in the back during the "1 ohm resistor" fiasco was a dead giveaway.


    What is the point of rating something that never happened?

    This seems to be a common thread on e-cat world.

    if (something that never has and never will occur)

    then (some miraculous extrapolation)


    Here is an analog.

    If (alien spacecraft were following behind comet Hale Bopp)

    then (the mass suicide of Heaven's Gate members would have been worth it)


    Or in ECW logic rules.

    A B

    ~B

    maybe A??????????????

  • can I understood that you were making humor by suggesting that I didn't know the air composition hahahaha

    I will suggest that because there was maybe no hydrogen in the QX as suggested too Paradigmnoia because several experiments with XSH are related in the field or there is no Hydrogen involved, that's all :)

    That would be interesting because the common LENR denominator would not be matter's nature. So UDH, Holmlid expectations would only be secondary phenomena, and that makes me happy.

    Is roughly the composition of standard air.


    http://eo.ucar.edu/basics/images/air_pie.jpg

  • Cydonia

    I don't know what you don't know, but it's probably still useful to put things clearly for those who don't get the sarcasm used in this thread.


    I could be wrong, but I don't think that Paradigmnoia believes that Rossi is producing excess heat. If I recall correctly, he built a QX-analogue a few months ago, and used it with just air.

  • Cydonia

    I don't know what you don't know, but it's probably still useful to put things clearly for those who don't get the sarcasm used in this thread.


    I could be wrong, but I don't think that Paradigmnoia believes that Rossi is producing excess heat. If I recall correctly, he built a QX-analogue a few months ago, and used it with just air.