Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

    Quote from Mark U

    This is what I eagerly await.

    Hi Mark. I was just reading your good questions to Rossi from Jan 6 on RossiLiveCat.

    I am a bit confused by his answers to a couple of your good questions.

    I am hoping you can clear up the meaning of Rossi's answers just like you cleared up the meaning of Rossi's new paper.

    Here are your questions and his answers.


    (MarkU) 2 ) In what country do you intend to have the conference?

    (AR) 2- maybe


    me: This is a fascinating answer I would like to better understand.


    (Mark U) 5 ) Do you intend with the upcoming demo to provide enough rigour in a setup that might change the mind of a reasonable skeptic regarding energy generation?
    Or will it be geared more for informing those who already believe in an energy producing Ecat?

    (AR) 5- skepticism is a problem for the skeptics, not for me


    me: Since 99% of people are skeptics rather than true believers, does this answer give you hope that Rossi will actually show any proof at all it works?

    If his intent is only to prove to his already believers, then what is the point? It is kind of like flat earthers showing other flat earthers "evidence" that the earth is flat, is it not?

    Quote from Alan Smith

    Lou Pagnucco


    Perhaps that paper is in this thread you started 3 years ago?


    Ultrasound induced transmutations in metal bars?

    Alan,

    An interesting observation. If the claims of that paper are correct, possibly acoustic superoscillations can cause localized very high energy collisions - just speculating, The paper I refered to use electromagnetic superoscillations to cause anomalous chemical reactions. If time permits, I'll find it.

    acoustic superoscillations or electromagnetic superoscillations that means both resonance behavior the more probable way to explain Lenr without exotic path..How a lot of eV fractions can be added together to reach the necessarily triggering threshold.

    Quote from Lou Pagnucco

    Alan,

    An interesting observation. If the claims of that paper are correct, possibly acoustic superoscillations can cause localized very high energy collisions - just speculating, The paper I refered to use electromagnetic superoscillations to cause anomalous chemical reactions. If time permits, I'll find it.

    Quote from PhysicsForDummies

    (MarkU) 2 ) In what country do you intend to have the conference?

    (AR) 2- maybe


    me: This is a fascinating answer I would like to better understand.

    I think he accidentally flipped questions 1) and 2) in his mind.

    1 ) Is the upcoming demonstration planned to be patterned after the Quark-X conference demo in Stockholm?

    2 ) In what country do you intend to have the conference?


    1- premature

    2- maybe


    Quote from PhysicsForDummies

    (AR) 5- skepticism is a problem for the skeptics, not for me

    me: Since 99% of people are skeptics rather than true believers, does this answer give you hope that Rossi will actually show any proof at all it works?

    If his intent is only to prove to his already believers, then what is the point? It is kind of like flat earthers showing other flat earthers "evidence" that the earth is flat, is it not?

    If the demonstration goes per usual, it won't be enough for the skeptics, it will half excite and half disappoint the believers, and the mainstream will continue to be largely ignorant of Rossi's work. This may be because Rossi doesn't have what he claims, or it may be because he does and he truly feels that he owes skeptics nothing, or it may be something in-between those two options.

    I'm half expecting though the demonstration will be a departure, and there will be some wonderment among even skeptics. But my track record at guessing isn't good. In my last exchange with Rossi I described a naive picture of what I imaged was happening in the Ecat. He said sorry, it has little in common with his thinking. What a let down! ||

    One word of advice Mark U , stop wasting time and worrying about what il dottore says or doesn’t, he is a known “misrepresenter of facts”, on public and court record. I learnt that much, stopped following his “says” and never looked back.

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

    Quote from Cydonia

    acoustic superoscillations or electromagnetic superoscillations that means both resonance behavior the more probable way to explain Lenr without exotic path..How a lot of eV fractions can be added together to reach the necessarily triggering threshold.

    Maybe. In the solar corona both acoustic and e-m superoscillations may occur --

    Magnetoacoustic superoscillations may explain anomalous heating there --

    Superoscillations in solar MHD waves and their possible role in heating coronal loops

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1801.08330.pdf


    Also, perhaps of interest --

    The now forgotten "superwave" signal is alleged to induce LENR in the old thread --

    The Superwave --

    seems to related to superoscillations.


    Superoscillations may change tunneling probability --

    How superoscillating tunneling waves can overcome the step potential

    "...we prove that superoscillations overcome the potential barrier of the step potential

    even though none of its constituent waves can."

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/…abs/pii/S000349162030021X


    Driving Quantum Systems with Superoscillations

    "...We conclude that, either superoscillations really can beat the bandlimit and achieve superresolution (‘kinematic superresolution’) or the superoscillating high frequency is

    absorbed and we gain dynamical access to the physics of high frequency processes

    with low frequency signals (‘dynamical superresolution’)."

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1510.04353.pdf

    See work from Garai, Letts, Kervran, Rossi.

    When we watch the main long wave which support the superwave, we have to consider that wavelength could be very long this is why i expect a minimum quantity we have to use for attempts.

    1 or 2 grs couldn't be enough because the long wave could exist only probably if it could rest on a lot of matter (powder).

    A kind of BE Condensate in fact.

    Quote from Mark U

    I think he accidentally flipped questions 1) and 2) in his mind.

    ...

    I described a naive picture of what I imaged was happening in the Ecat. He said sorry, it has little in common with his thinking. What a let down! ||

    If we have to switch around his yes/no answers to the questions we *believe* they correspond to, we can support any conclusion. Correct?


    Your explanation which Rossi shot down was only necessary because his paper explains no source of energy. It is no surprise you are wrong because it is a trick question. There is no right explanation, or Rossi would have given it.

    Nothing new and the next "demo" in far distance....

    But the number of hardcore Rossi-advocates that still jump in to take apart every single post that might seed the smallest doubt in Rossi's ECAT R&D, robotic manufacturing and industrial cooperation, certification, statements etc... seems to decline..

    It is so easy these days to meet and chat online, do video and web conferences, but that didn't seem to arrive at Rossis "company" or lab / garage...despite his previous claims of operating his plants/ECATs by wire ... what a joke! :D :D

    10 year anniversary

    Quote from Shane D.

    I missed this 10 year anniversary, but good of Frank to take notice:


    https://e-catworld.com/2021/01…duced-10-years-ago-today/


    I will never forget it. Reignited my interest about CF. Before that, I knew about it (CF), but with so little news to follow, had gone on to other promising green developments. Then came Rossi.

    10 year anniversary of Frank’s

    Novel.

    https://www.amazon.com/Secret-…cland-ebook/dp/B005GI5IBC

    Can't resist...the front page recalls some strange memories (1977: "Close Encounters of the Third Kind")... isn't that funny :P :D Rossi is indeed an encounter of the 5th kind...


      

    Quote from barty

    What a time. So many of us were naive. Now we know better.

    That's the good think. People can learn and improve.


    BTW: Watching at the comment activity on Frank's recent blog posts, it looks like the site is slowly dying too?

    Most intelligent people have been either banned or moderated into the ether.


    RossI is a charlatan, his believers will believe,

    They must, they have been told to.

    Mark U Question to Rossi and

    ECat-SKL Presentation maybe

    by the end of the year.


    1. Mark U February 5, 2021 at 12:40 PM

      Dear Andrea,

      A couple of things.

      Firstly, after clicking on CC’s link to your paper at

      http://www.researchgate.net/pu…nge_particle_interactions

      I am pleased to say I can now both read and download it.

      For weeks Mac users like myself were unable to do so, but it looks like the Mac OS most recent update has fixed this issue.

      Secondly, I was wondering about the outcome if you were to replace the normal charge cartridge of the Ecat with a cartridge of non working ingredients (say, without hydrogen).

      Which of the following scenarios would best describe the outcome?

      1) the Ecat would still output electricity and some heat, but the energy out would be the same as the energy in.

      2) the Ecat would suffer damage and not work

      3) the Ecat controller would sense something, like too much resistance, and not power the Ecat

      4) you have not tried this and don’t know

      5) confidential

      Thank you, and best wishes for your preparations,

      Cheers from Toronto,

      Mark

    2. Andrea Rossi February 5, 2021 at 12:55 PM

      Mark U:

      The A.I. would sense it and signsl the necessity to change the module.

      Warm regards,

      A.R.

    3. Rudi February 3, 2021 at 3:21 PM

      Dear Mr. Rossi,

      can you meanwhile tell us a date or at least the quarter for the presentation?

      The plant for e-cat is ready, maybe you are also able to tell us the quarter when the sales to the industry- and the home-version of the e-cat will start?

      Best regards

      Rudi

    4. Translate Andrea Rossi February 5, 2021 at 11:13 AM

      Rudi:

      Prudentially I’d say the forth quarter.

      Warm regards,

      A.R.