Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

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    Andrea Rossi
    November 26, 2019 at 11:25 AM

    Dear Readers:

    I wrote in a comment yesterday that the demo of the Ecat SK Leonardo will be made in January:

    this is a thought, not a guarantee, it depends also from the time of the certifications, so it could be delayed to February.

    Warm Regards,

    A.R.



    Prototypes/demonstration units do not need "certification".


    UL approval isn't mandatory although many US customers expect it.

    FCC approval isn't usually needed for demonstrations, trade shows etc (subject to some conditions).

    1. John B November 26, 2019 at 1:06 AM

      Dear Andrea,

      Congratulations for your achievements. Was the Ecat SK Leonardo operating in a closed loop fashion in the latest tests on Saturday?

    2. Andrea Rossi November 26, 2019 at 11:00 AM

      John B:

      yes

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.

    3. Gerard McEk November 26, 2019 at 2:56 AM

      Dear Andrea,

      I have some additional questions if you allow me:

      1. Is the ECat SKL you put in closed loop operation on 11/23 still running, disconnected from external supplies?

      2. Is one of the test to see how long it can run?

      3. How do you measure its electrical output?

      4. How do you measure its heat output?

      I hope it runs for ever!

      Thank you, kind regards, Gerard

    4. Andrea Rossi November 26, 2019 at 10:56 AM

      Gerard McEk:

      1- yes

      2- indefinitely

      3- by a load

      4- by calorimetry

      5- I hope too

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.

    Colin Watters
    November 26, 2019 at 1:08 PM

    Dear Mr Rossi, Please can you clarify what you mean by an “independent test” and “certification”? Thanks.


    Andrea Rossi
    November 26, 2019 at 6:46 PM

    Colin Watters:

    Independent test means a test made by specialists that do not depend from us, Certification in this case means to certify the data related to the efficiency. In other words: means certify that there are not other energy sources and that the energy necessary to make the Ecat operation is generated by the same Ecat.

    Warm Regards,

    A.R.

    Rossi blog comment and interesting

    reply from Bob Grenyer on ECW blog.



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    Andrea Rossi

    November 26, 2019 at 6:09 PM

    Karl Wieslander:

    A so stupid and insulting comment comes obviously from a troll.

    Usually I spam the rock and troll music, but this I wanted to publish for a more general issue: the Entity that will make the performance certification will have access to the black box, to verify what it contains. They will not have know how information about the connections and the logic of the control system.

    So, from a stupid comment has been born a useful information.

    Regards

    A.R.

    Reply

    Bob Grenyer


    Not a stupid question, Rossi could have just given the answer. Glad he did. Credit to Karl.









    1. Martin Himpe November 27, 2019 at 5:58 AM

      Dr Rossi,

      1- how long the charge of the Ecat SK Leonardo will last in full power?

      2- will the charge last longer reducing the power?

      3- can the charge be changed by the customer?

      Bets Regards,

      Martin Himpe

    2. Translate Andrea Rossi November 27, 2019 at 8:32 AM

      Martin Himpe:

      1- 4000-5000 hours

      2- yes

      3- yes

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.


    1. Andrea Rossi November 27, 2019 at 8:40 AM

      Peter Forsberg:

      Welcome back !

      With the right partners this could take not much time, because our module has been designed using parts already off the shelf asnd already manufactured in millions of pcs per year. I used all the experience made in the last years to avoid bottlenecks in the industrialization phase.The passage to a strong industrialization could be much faster than the time to realize the prototype.

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.


    1. Andrea Rossi November 27, 2019 at 8:37 AM

      Willgh:

      The presentation will be made in due time in due place between January and February 2020.

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.

    Home depot parts are indeed manufactured in millions per year.... ;)


    So no problem to start mass production with the existing robotic factory right away. Finally...maybe the robots are not the newest anymore after all these years and need a replacement so his manufacturing will be up-to-date. But his big global partner will for sure take care of this, should no be a problem at all.

    Any ideas who his partner is? I don't want to miss this once-in-lifetime-opportunity to buy a good number of shares before the cat is out of the bag....

    The angrier Rossi gets, the closer to the truth one is.

    Recall the emissivity rant and the delta vs wye electrical math rant.

    Max output was claimed at 27kw or 22kw? All emptied and released after ~27 weeks, all that's desired now is to figure out the mass of the charge then it will be easy to determine what type of energy source it may be using by inference. Thankfully, even if I'm still sceptical, it more realistic than a perpetual motion machine, but still has amazing growth, motive and production potential! Lovely to look at and read.

    Andrea Rossi

    November 29, 2019 at 1:51 PM

    Pekka Janhunen:

    I suggest you this lecture on Bell’s theorem:

    Does Geometric algebra provide a loophole to Bell’s theorem ?

    "Geometric algebra ( Clifford algebra ) , championed by David Hestenes as a universal language for physics, was used as a framework for the quantum mechanics of interacting qubits by Chris Doran , Anthony Lasenby and others."


    "In 2007 Joy Christian surprised the world with his announcement that Bell’s theorem was incorrect , because, according to Christian, Bell had unnecessarily restricted the co-domain of the measurement outcomes to be the traditional real numbers."

    Warm Regards

    A.R.

    1. Martin Himpe November 27, 2019 at 5:58 AM

      Dr Rossi,

      1- how long the charge of the Ecat SK Leonardo will last in full power?

      2- will the charge last longer reducing the power?

      3- can the charge be changed by the customer?

      Bets Regards,

      Martin Himpe

    2. Translate Andrea Rossi November 27, 2019 at 8:32 AM

      Martin Himpe:

      1- 4000-5000 hours

      2- yes

      3- yes

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.


    1. Andrea Rossi November 27, 2019 at 8:40 AM

      Peter Forsberg:

      Welcome back !

      With the right partners this could take not much time, because our module has been designed using parts already off the shelf asnd already manufactured in millions of pcs per year. I used all the experience made in the last years to avoid bottlenecks in the industrialization phase.The passage to a strong industrialization could be much faster than the time to realize the prototype.

      Warm Regards,

      A.R.


    Hi Walter,


    I find this short "Truth Loader" video more interesting:

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    It was uploaded on YouTube on November 30, 2012, a month after the formation of IH.


    The Ecat section comes after a long sequence filmed in the F&P laboratory, so this video seems to establish an ideal connection between the two main phases of the CF hystory: the pioneering work of F&P and the Ecat, presented as a promising industrial product.


    The most intriguing images are those coming from the F&P laboratory at IMRA-France. The video indicates that this footage is from an unspecified "Archive", while all the other footages were taken from YouTube.


    This "ARCHIVE FOOTAGE" was shot on June 1992, one month after the end of the most famous F&P experiment, the "1992 boil-off experiment", and 4 months before its results were presented at ICCF3 in Sapporo, where F&P claimed that their cells were able to generate about 150 W of excess heat. The footage shows MF presenting his cells to a Japanese guest, so it was probably shot by SP. These images show that F&P were well aware of the propensity of their cells to generate a lot of foam, whose presence in the cells can easily provide a mundane explanation for the apparently extraordinary results claimed by the two CF pioneers.


    The puzzling question concerns the owner of the "Archive", who provided the old footage on F&P for a propaganda video on the Ecat.

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