Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

Good to see more Rossi skeptics

back on this thread.
Physics for Dummies must be on

a golfing holiday.

Quote from Siccario

Maybe, You are biased, just because I have a lot of fun in here.

You know, why BLP is not successful ? Despite all their claims ? Or Saffire ?

Simply, because PERPETUAL MOTION ENGINES cannot exist. And it is nothing else, they wanna build.

Any claim to create any self-sustaining device was already proven WRONG more than enough times.

Maybe there is a layer of physics, we do not know yet, and I highly appreciate it's discovery.
But neither will this frontier be traversed by some garage-guys, nor some Rossiphiles nor the SAFFIRE / BLP team.

So, maybe You should as axil to prove, being right ? Or how do You justify his posts about total nonsense ?
His posts may seem constructive, bcause they are not destructive on the first glimpse.

But nonsense remains nonsense, no matter, how many flowers You try to cover it with.

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It would obviously be "self sustaining" through the consumption or reaction of mass into energy through nuclear or pico-chemical proccesses. Just like a fire (standard chemical oxidation) or a critical fission setup is self sustaining until suitable fuel is depleted.

Quote from Siccario

Yeah, nice.

Surely You think about beginning Your second lesson with "transmutations" and LENR happens in nature, everywhere.
So, to not get it as boring as that, I continue on another level of argumentation:

You know, l If there are LENR's, it is VERY unlikely, that any gouvernment would not start to explore them.
Use the technology. Harness them. End finally save the world.

Look, all the garage boys did enough work and collected resukts and experience during their experiments. There MIGHBT BE A GOOD GROUND TO START FROM.

So just hire 5 of them , sponsor them a lab and equipment and time and, after maybe 3 years, the "device" would be finished and, let's say, Usbekistan would be the first country with ZERO CO2 emissions regarding electricity production.

SIMPLY WOW, isn't it ? What would Greta do ?

No,man, no country sponsors those garage guys.
No country researches this LENR stuff.
They simply DO NOT.

Maybe thera re some few independant researchers, funded with some thousands of dollars, BUT, let's be honest, nothing in the range of a 1% of the cern or ITER costs.

No, man, simply not. THIS IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

Just a bunch of garage guys do "research" on that.

... please, tell me, what do these facts tell YOU, who appearently likes to see himself as "not remotely a scientist" ?

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This is a simplistic approach. The barriers are more than scientific but psychological, egotistical, and based on entrenched theories that may have flaws on a fundamental level... whether intentionally left that way or not. These problems even exist within the alternative energy researching community 🤷🏽‍♂️. A free flowing of experimental/theoretical consideration within reason is needed. Im not saying that measured transmutation is indicative of literal nuclear transmutation with wonky energy balancing. Maybe it isn't predominantly nuclear but something else is going on (that isn't "free energy")? Also, some fundamental theory tweaks could open doors to a lot.

So Sicario is not entitled to opine about EVOs because he has not demonstrated appropriate expertise while Director can make declarative statements about the theoretical operating principles underlying Rossi’s latest devices about which absolutely nothing has been revealed other than their name. Local ground rules, I guess.

Quote from interested observer

So Sicario is not entitled to opine about EVOs because he has not demonstrated appropriate expertise while Director can make declarative statements about the theoretical operating principles underlying Rossi’s latest devices about which absolutely nothing has been revealed other than their name. Local ground rules, I guess.

You have a point. Director's declarations are generalisations based on LENR-like plasma based experiments at large. There could be some actual interesting patterns he is observing even if it may be simplistic and built on questionable theories. The Romans didn't need to understand the fundamental nature of combustion and water phase transitions to build the first simple steam engine.

@Siccario ........so why does a Nobel prize-winning B. Josephson still advocate further cold fusion research or why is NASA still filing new patents on LENR? We all are aware that there are people like Rossi involved that we know are eccentric blatant frauds and have fiddled the evidence to obtain positive results but there are enough solid data from years of other research to make it worthwhile to continue ..... e.g. the Mizuno reactor / transmutation of elements / NASA space research. This last patent shows a methodology to combine the electron screening effect of transition metal lattice on confined D atoms with elecron/neutron beam technology at energies more usually associated with particle beam accelerators and hot fusion. Then there is muon catalysed fusion researched by Holmlid etc with his ultra dense theories which cannot be easily dismissed by even top physicists like F. Winterberg. And other nutty professor characters like Santilli or Mill's! There's a lot more to it than the plasma - based EVO theories and if at the end of the day we need to borrow some of the principles underlying hot fusion and nuclear fission to generate a new type of fission/fusion reactor then the research on the cold fusion side would still have been valid.

Quote from LeBob

You have a point. Director's declarations are generalisations based on LENR-like plasma based experiments at large. There could be some actual interesting patterns he is observing even if it may be simplistic and built on questionable theories. The Romans didn't need to understand the fundamental nature of combustion and water phase transitions to build the first simple steam engine.

My point is that the only “information” about the e-cat SK we have is that Rossi says it is really swell. There is literally nothing more we know about it. So how can the poster be opining about something about which he has some knowledge?

.......or why not just forget about Rossi and his shenanigans ...... he's very entertaining but totally unscientific so none of it is worth arguing about.

Quote from LeBob

A free flowing of experimental/theoretical consideration

Siccario has freeflowing. as primary .. but consideration is secondary...

"No further discussion needed."

Dr Richard

you boast by the very pompous title of "doctor" when you have no competence to evaluate Rossi technologies.

I have these skills and I hold his truth which comforts me in my judgment against you.

Quote from Dr Richard

.......or why not just forget about Rossi and his shenanigans ...... he's very entertaining but totally unscientific so none of it is worth arguing about.

I would really like to hear about your evaluation of Rossi"s work and any evidence you have that counters the accepted view that it's all BS.

Dr Richard