Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

  • What constitutes a "due agreement?" The only form of NDA I can see both he and a legitimate third party agree to is an agreement whereby the third party has the absolute right to do the tests that want, without requiring Rossi to reveal his secret sauce, and requiring that, in the event that the third party is unhappy with the tests, that both Rossi and the third party cannot disclose the results of the tests and cannot in fact even disclose that the tests happened, i.e., no statements by Rossi that the third party did tests but that he can't disclose the results because of confidentiality. If third party is unhappy with results, then Rossi cannot even disclose the existence of the testing. Now, assuming arguendo that the test results do not impress the third party, Rossi doesn't gain anything by doing the tests, so he is better off just claiming that a third party did the tests, the third party loved the results and he would love to disclose the name but "confidentiality." Which is what I think will happen -- there will be no legitimate third party, Rossi will toss out several names of real third parties, e.g., ABB, GE, etc. with whom he is "discussing" testing. He will then say that he and an unnamed real company have agreed to testing, wonderful results, etc. He doesn't spend any time or money on tests, he claims wonderful results, his acolytes rejoice in wonder once more and agree that if something is commercially marketed by [fill in the date next year, two years, etc.] they will no longer believe.


    Wash, rinse, repeat.

  • Then why did representatives of IH try to bribe Dr. Levi to withdraw his support of the Lugano Report ?


    See : PLAINTIFFS’ MOTION FOR SANCTIONS FOR BAD FAITH LITIGATION CONDUCTCase 1:16-cv-21199-CMA Document 167 Entered on FLSD Docket 03/09/2017


    It is my recollection that said motion was denied. Also, I would caution you against making such allegations as they would appear to be defamatory. FYI, allegations made in a motion in a court proceeding are generally considered exempt from defamation claims, your statements are not. Also, having worked Jones, Day, Reavis, Pogue & Satan (lawyer joke) attorneys many times (although not the attorneys who worked on this case), I very much doubt that they tried to bribe anyone. Given that their estimated revenues are now over $2 Billion a year, they are not going to risk sanctions like that which could seriously damage their judicial reputation. (they are also known as "Jones, Day, Night & Weekends" for the hours they expect their associates to work).

  • Wash, rinse, repeat.


    The repeat is not purely a repeat; the iteration each time is slightly different. For instance the Ecat SK is supposedly being used now by customer(s) in field trial, and the customers are paying for nothing except the generated power. (BTW Rossi has said recently on his blog that this power purchase approach has been profitable for Leonardo.) But with the Ecat SKL, Rossi is going another route and says he is going to sell Ecat SKL units.


    If I was as smart as Rossi and had the goods, I'd probably be doing just about exactly what he's doing.


    If I was as smart as Rossi and didn't have the goods, I wouldn't be doing what he's doing because it would bring me no satisfaction whatsoever.

  • If I was as smart as Rossi and didn't have the goods, I wouldn't be doing what he's doing because it would bring me no satisfaction whatsoever.

    Would it bring you satisfaction to do what Bernie Madoff did? Madoff still did it. Rossi has been doing it for years simply for the adoration of his cult, and for self enrichment.

    Everything you say above about what Rossi is doing, about SK customers, etc requires believing his blog posts, which is foolish since there is zero evidence of any of it. Can you tell me your evidence that Rossi has any customers? Any partners? Any employees?

  • miles


    Most blogs carry ads a-plenty, Would panty-hose or vitamin pills be more appropriate for ECW do you think?


    Oh yea. This is an answer :) But we need to distinguish from ads embedded in the blog platform or ads deliberately added by the blogger.

    In the last case the real question is why. Below a few guesses

    1) Blogger strongly believing and in love with the firm.

    2) Getting some sort of revenue

    3) To drive search engines and collecting much followers as possible

    4) Any other?


    Please vote or add further explanations. :)

  • I have donated to ECW, there's nothing wrong with that. Has it occurred to you that google's own algorithms will drop ads into blogs that the AI thinks appropriate? That's why when I looked at an aitr-travel website the other day a funeral services company sent me a pop-up.

  • miles


    Most blogs carry ads a-plenty, Would panty-hose or vitamin pills be more appropriate for ECW do you think?




    I do not think Frank is ill intentioned. I also do not understand how he can remain so positive towards Rossi. It is bizzare. He does solicit funds from ECW posters to support the blog, but I doubt he makes much money if any from it.


    However, what I do take a bit exception with and think Alan above is missing the point.....


    The ad reads :



    So Alan,

    Should Frank we displaying an ad (not a popup this is put there, knowingly by himself) that states the eCat is:

    1) For sale - When Rossi posts continuously that it is not quite ready.

    2) Temperatures up to 600 C, when there is no data to back that at all.

    3) That "we install and operate" is laughable! No sales, no installations, no reports, even though Rossi stated in the past that he had done so. You must admit that Rossi has stated he has sold and installed almost every version of his eCat at a "customer", but then those customers are forgotten and never mentioned again when a new version comes along with a "new partner and customer". Really?

    4)Customers pay only for heat provided? You think this is really happening?

    5) and the most obvious.... Rossi does not have a certification for industrial use. There is not even a recognized standard for a nuclear / LENR device for industrial use!


    So it is clear that each point above is BS or even knowingly false! You think it proper to place this ad, knowingly and intentionally? If you do, I am disappointed! This is the WORST kind of capitalism! Lies and deceit.


    This is what I have been saying about we need to hold LENR venues and claimants to a higher degree of accountability.


    That ad is pure BS and I think you know it. It damages the LENR fields reputation.

  • This is the WORST kind of capitalism! Lies and deceit.

    Let's say a potential customer sees the advertisement and emails Leonardo Corp. Then what?

    1) Rossi emails them back saying, "Just Kidding!" No exchange of money. This is not capitalism at all, just a prank.

    2) Rossi contacts the potential client and assures them they pay no money for eCat installation, etc. Only for the power used. The potential customer then signs on or does not. Nothing wrong with that.

  • Let's say a potential customer sees the advertisement and emails Leonardo Corp. Then what?

    1) Rossi emails them back saying, "Just Kidding!" No exchange of money. This is not capitalism at all, just a prank.

    2) Rossi contacts the potential client and assures them they pay no money for eCat installation, etc. Only for the power used. The potential customer then signs on or does not. Nothing wrong with that.

    Care to tell us how and for what Industrial use the ecat is certified for?

  • Let's say a potential customer sees the advertisement and emails Leonardo Corp. Then what?

    1) Rossi emails them back saying, "Just Kidding!" No exchange of money. This is not capitalism at all, just a prank.

    2) Rossi contacts the potential client and assures them they pay no money for eCat installation, etc. Only for the power used. The potential customer then signs on or does not. Nothing wrong with that.


    No harm, except a waste of time when they see the details.


    Like all of Rossi's stuff its purpose is PR. Sometimes I think PR so Rossi can keep himself happy (even though he is also lying) the human mind is a complex thing.

  • Let's say a potential customer sees the advertisement and emails Leonardo Corp. Then what?

    1) Rossi emails them back saying, "Just Kidding!" No exchange of money. This is not capitalism at all, just a prank.

    2) Rossi contacts the potential client and assures them they pay no money for eCat installation, etc. Only for the power used. The potential customer then signs on or does not. Nothing wrong with that.


    If main stream science had not been so dogmatic when F&P made their claims, we could possibly have had working cold fusion by now and perhaps the atmosphere would be in better shape.


    Now, Cold Fusion has a very black eye and Rossi is only making it worse. And some people keep signaling that Rossi is the real deal, such as with this ad.

    It only gives the LENR field a blacker eye. That is what is wrong with this!

  • I have donated to ECW, there's nothing wrong with that. Has it occurred to you that google's own algorithms will drop ads into blogs that the AI thinks appropriate? That's why when I looked at an aitr-travel website the other day a funeral services company sent me a pop-up.

  • Care to tell us how and for what Industrial use the ecat is certified for?

    It would have to be certified for insurance reasons, but I doubt it would be a typical full certification, like one obtained at the manufacturer level. Rather the Ecat SK would probably have a one time field certification in the factory, done on the spot. Along the lines of this:

    https://canada.ul.com/ulcprograms/fieldcertification/


    ULC designed the Field Certification program as a certification option for a wide range of products that are one of a kind or are produced in limited quantities. While Field Certification is not meant to replace full certification, it provides a one-time certification. This program provides you the convenience of having your products certified at the location of your choice by a ULC technical expert. The product is tested to the applicable standard and once the product meets the requirements of the applicable standard, the ULC technical expert applies a serialized numbered “Field Certified” label to each unit. And you will receive the final report to satisfy the local authorities across Canada.

    When to Consider Field Certification for your New Equipment
    • You are producing or have limited quantities or batches of product.
    • Your equipment is one of a kind or custom engineered.
    • Your equipment was UL listed but was modified.
    • Your equipment was inadvertently shipped without the UL certification mark.
    • Your equipment was installed without the UL certification mark.
    • You have shipped, or installed the equipment at the final destination.
    • You are developing a new design and want to assess if your product meets the applicable safety requirements.
    • You may need full certification for a new product you are designing, but you first want to test market the product.
    • You ultimately want full certification, but would first like to ensure that your prototypes and test samples comply with the essential requirements before submitting for full certification.
  • I have donated to ECW, there's nothing wrong with that. Has it occurred to you that google's own algorithms will drop ads into blogs that the AI thinks appropriate? That's why when I looked at an aitr-travel website the other day a funeral services company sent me a pop-up.

    Hehe.

    While the Ecat ad seems to be a relatively permanent feature on ECW (and why not), the pop up ads I see now at Ecat world are from a certain Canadian Bank, for loans and insurance, and another for retirement planning. Lordy am I that old? (I don't think so, but the other day someone did call me sir.)