Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

Now some here are wondering if Rossi would receive a Nobel prize in literature.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, and instead just wonder about the Nobel prize for Physics.

Wait ... I could see it possibly cascading into a Nobel peace prize as well.

I see now from JONP that one of Rossi's partners who is licensed to make and use the Ecat, is already getting ready to manufacture them:

Frank Acland

November 1, 2020 at 9:32 AM

Dear Andrea,

Is the partner you have licensed E-Cat manufacturing rights to already in process of building the capabilities to manufacture E-Cat SKLs?

Kind regards,

Frank Acland

Andrea Rossi

November 1, 2020 at 11:34 AM

Frank Acland:

Yes,

Warm Regards,

A.R.

PS Welcome back Shane!

I was named after that movie when it came out! I never met an older Shane. Seen the movie a million times. My sons refuse to watch it anymore.

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I was named after that movie when it came out! I never met an older Shane. Seen the movie a million times. My sons refuse to watch it anymore.

We kind of share something then, I was named after Alan Ladd, who my Ma must have had a crush on - and he was the star of the 1953 film, Shane.

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Now some here are wondering if Rossi would receive a Nobel prize in literature.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, and instead just wonder about the Nobel prize for Physics.

Wait ... I could see it possibly cascading into a Nobel peace prize as well.

I see now from JONP that one of Rossi's partners who is licensed to make and use the Ecat, is already getting ready to manufacture them:

Frank Acland

November 1, 2020 at 9:32 AM

Dear Andrea,

Is the partner you have licensed E-Cat manufacturing rights to already in process of building the capabilities to manufacture E-Cat SKLs?

Kind regards,

Frank Acland

Andrea Rossi

November 1, 2020 at 11:34 AM

Frank Acland:

Yes,

Warm Regards,

A.R.

PS Welcome back Shane!

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Stan Lee actually nominated Rossi for a

Nobel prize in Science (Fiction),

but sadly, Stan passed, and without his immense stature and presence, Rossi’s momentum faded.

Rossi has acquired enough capital from at least one licensee to build an e-cat factory!

I wanted to bring at least some good news to those who may need it to get them through the election.

E. Hergen

November 2, 2020 at 8:06 AM

Dear Mr. Rossi,

your last comments about your licencees are very encouraging. Two questions:

1- With the initial licence fees do you have the money to finance your first own e-cat factory?

2- Do you have an agreement with your licencees, that they don`t compete with you in the same market you want to serve?

Thank you and best regards,

E. Hergen

Andrea Rossi

November 2, 2020 at 8:54 AM

E. Hergen:

1- yes

2- yes

Warm Regards,

A.R.

But Rossi already has factory according to his many claims..

"62+ quotes by Andrea Rossi that he is making e-Cats in a factory in Florida, USA"

https://ecatdoteudotcom.wordpr…-teknik-that-is-not-news/

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Hmmm...

Hi woodworker? It would have been better if you introduced yourself and welcomed me to the Forum before your unwarranted "asshole" type discourse and 'capital letter' attack. You have prompted me to copy every Forum comment made by you onto a memory 'schtick'. An in depth review of this compilation (even better with an Evelyn Wood speed reading of it) was enough to get the gist of it. Your discourse here on the Forum is so narrow it boggles the imagination. You only comment on Rossi threads which I FIND DISGUSTING. Such a lack of curiosity and motivation is downright unhealthy. Yet all this (and much more) increases my trust in people. I trust you will be who you are, that what you exhibit is predictable, reproducible always, and provides a measure of the foundational beliefs that flow through your veins, so to speak.

Let me make one thing perfectly clear, I'm a carpenter... You are a lawyer exhibiting little to do with skilled carpentry. You act like an asshole and a lawyer IMHO. Do not attack me again. YOU CLEAR ON THAT?

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I used to do cabinetry and furniture, mostly hardwood mission style, settles, cabinets, coffee tables, end tables, beds, things like that. I started using "woodworker" when I did more of that. Now I mostly relax, read and play with the cats.

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As to philosophy and law, I do think that there are some similarities in that both try to teach one to question the accepted "TRUTH", especially when the evidence for it is all "I say, therefore it must be." Both try to teach one to ask questions, intelligent questions intended to get at both the facts and the truth of an issue, and how to reason in a logical fashion. Logic is an essential element in taking philosophy and IMHO should be in law, but it is not.

Also

As an attorney, I can attest to that. I have always encouraged my clients to start off negotiations fairly and see how the other side responds. If the other side is an asshole, well, I can be a bigger asshole than anyone if I need to. The result of the first approach is less fighting, less mistrust, quicker negotiations and lower attorneys' fees. If the sides want to fight, the only real winner is the lawyers.

Also

There are numerous game theory studies that conclude that if you approach someone else with courtesy and open hands they are more likely to respond that way, and if they don't, then it is appropriate to respond on their level. Those studies also seem to show that open hands, etc. result in a better outcome for all the parties, while being an asshole usually results in a lower or lesser result for the parties.

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Hmmm...

Hi woodworker? It would have been better if you introduced yourself and welcomed me to the Forum before your unwarranted "asshole" type discourse and 'capital letter' attack. You have prompted me to copy every Forum comment made by you onto a memory 'schtick'. An in depth review of this compilation (even better with an Evelyn Wood speed reading of it) was enough to get the gist of it. Your discourse here on the Forum is so narrow it boggles the imagination. You only comment on Rossi threads which I FIND DISGUSTING. Such a lack of curiosity and motivation is downright unhealthy. Yet all this (and much more) increases my trust in people. I trust you will be who you are, that what you exhibit is predictable, reproducible always, and provides a measure of the foundational beliefs that flow through your veins, so to speak.

Let me make one thing perfectly clear, I'm a carpenter... You are a lawyer exhibiting little to do with skilled carpentry. You act like an asshole and a lawyer IMHO. Do not attack me again. YOU CLEAR ON THAT?

Quote the "woodworker"

I used to do cabinetry and furniture, mostly hardwood mission style, settles, cabinets, coffee tables, end tables, beds, things like that. I started using "woodworker" when I did more of that. Now I mostly relax, read and play with the cats.

Also

As to philosophy and law, I do think that there are some similarities in that both try to teach one to question the accepted "TRUTH", especially when the evidence for it is all "I say, therefore it must be." Both try to teach one to ask questions, intelligent questions intended to get at both the facts and the truth of an issue, and how to reason in a logical fashion. Logic is an essential element in taking philosophy and IMHO should be in law, but it is not.

Also

As an attorney, I can attest to that. I have always encouraged my clients to start off negotiations fairly and see how the other side responds. If the other side is an asshole, well, I can be a bigger asshole than anyone if I need to. The result of the first approach is less fighting, less mistrust, quicker negotiations and lower attorneys' fees. If the sides want to fight, the only real winner is the lawyers.

Also

There are numerous game theory studies that conclude that if you approach someone else with courtesy and open hands they are more likely to respond that way, and if they don't, then it is appropriate to respond on their level. Those studies also seem to show that open hands, etc. result in a better outcome for all the parties, while being an asshole usually results in a lower or lesser result for the parties.

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I apologize for not responding more quickly, but I have been working in Las Vegas the last two weeks as a poll observer. And I guess I must have missed something where I appeared to insult someone -- I certainly don't recall doing that. And if I did, please point out exactly where and how.

And you may be a very skilled carpenter, but there is a world of difference between a carpenter and a cabinet/furniture maker.

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But Rossi already has factory according to his many claims..

"62+ quotes by Andrea Rossi that he is making e-Cats in a factory in Florida, USA"

https://ecatdoteudotcom.wordpr…-teknik-that-is-not-news/

Good to know, thanks. So Rossi said he had a Florida factory in 2012 that was in the process of being automated to make Ecats. Doesn't seem it got to the point of actual production though. In one of the latest posts from that link Rossi says,

Dear “Barney” (or, better, Giovanni Cesaretti): (snip)

6- conserve this comment of mine: if within 16 months we will not have in operation this factory, I will pay you pizza and bier.

So it seems he owes Barney a beer and pizza.

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I will pay you pizza and bier.

The dictionary defies 'bier' differently. " a movable frame on which a coffin or a corpse is placed before burial or cremation or on which they are carried to the grave.".

From ECW site: Report of a Skype Demonstration of the E-Cat SKL .

Hmm...sounds and looks more like a "Stockholm deja-vu"? Cables, power meters, ampere meters, little glowing plasma parts, slight of hands ;-)?...how can such a 15min "demonstration" meet Rossi's ongoing claims that he has all tested and certified (!) and is ready to ramp up production or licencing of a "product"? For sure this all happened in his condo in Miami and not in a lab or R&D dept of his partners facility... oh wait: didn't he respond back then to a legal request from the US that he is trapped in Italy due to the pandemic? ...

As usual so many questions, but no answers other than Rossisays (and Frank Acland says to keep his followers happy...).

Edit:

I have to correct myself after another read of all the wild speculations on ECW.... wall outlet sockets with 220V/50Hz is of course not the US (115/60). So he was indeed in Europe (in Italy?). SO in case Rossi told him he was in a Lab close to his Condo, this simply can't be...

Equipment listed in the ECW short report:

Wattmeter: Perel E305EM5G https://www.velleman.eu/products/view/?id=382032

Power supply: XD-360-12 (couldn't find it, but could be a standard switching-type 360W 12V fixed voltage PSU)

Ammeter: PEAKTECH 3430 https://www.peaktech.de/produc…rodukt/peaktech-3430.html

Resistor: Mouser TE1000B1K0J https://eu.mouser.com/ProductD…nectivity-CGS/TE1000B1K0J

Three posts moved here from a thread, please remember that this is the designated space for Rossi’s related discussion for the time being. Nothing personal.

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From ECW site: Report of a Skype Demonstration of the E-Cat SKL .

So Frank got to see a demo via Skype, nice! My thinking is that Andrea gave him permission to report, because what Frank saw in the early spring was a much less developed version of the E-cat SKL : still plugged into the mains for input, and producing as much heat as electricity.

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So Frank got to see a demo via Skype, nice! My thinking is that Andrea gave him permission to report, because ...

... or because he feels his popularity is decreasing?

I don't think its mentioned in the report but the output voltage must be around 920V. Quite a dangerous bit of kit by the sound of it. Aside: I assume it really was a 1K resistor.

What I would do is put a 10 Ohm resistor inside the 1kOhm. 0.92*10=9V That would be much safer and wouldn't get as hot.

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Very interesting what (Fabiani?) said at 0.48:

"Andrea, hai fatto tu tutto da solo. Pigliatela con te stesso." 😁

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What I would do is put a 10 Ohm resistor inside the 1kOhm. 0.92*10=9V That would be much safer and wouldn't get as hot.

How hard is it to properly measure all input power?