"If h;e goes to market....."
"If he does not......"
Sam,
Again, what solid evidence do you base your hopes on? That is what amazes me! There is none!
I am for the evidence on Nov 25
and go from there.
LENR Partners
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Sam, can I ask a couple serious questions? These are moral issues so I think you should be concerned. Please answer them specifically.
The Morals on this thread leave a lot to be desired.
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Recent interesting paper [note authors, argument and campus, and compare with AR main patent]
Mechanical spectroscopy observation of LiAlH4 decomposition
Enrico Gianfranco Campari, Ennio Bonetti, Angelo Casagrande, Loris Ferrari,
Giuseppe Levi
Dipartimento di Fisica ed Astronomia, Bologna University, Viale Berti Pichat 6/2, Bologna, Italy
... "The decompositions occurring in LiAlH4 as a function of temperature during heating has been directly measured for the first time by means of mechanical spectroscopy, performing tests on cold consolidated Aluminum and alanate powders having a composite morphology and a good mechanical strength. Mechanical spectroscopy data prove to be equally or more precise than calorimetric data and could help to characterize transformations whosedetails are not yet completely understood."
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Well we should find out with the SKLed one way or another.
Rossi is not backing down in getting it to Market.
If he does get it to market it should
be easy to know if the product is
as advertised.
If he does get it to Market then we
can say it is not as advertised.
And the skeptics have won the day.
If I had dollar for every Internet pundit that said that about one of Rossi’s mock science experiments, I could install a nice pool, complete with glass dome, hot tub, spa, heating and air conditioning.
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Very raw stethoscope, but not a bad idea [following Campari, Bonetti, Levi et al "Mechanical spectroscopy observation of LiAlH4 decomposition"]
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Re: Stethoscope photo
For my next demonstration…, I will turn ON the reactor!
Please! Stand behind the yellow plastic chain fence so not to be electrocuted!Obviously only I, expert in zero energy, can safely hear the crackling lithium over the trumpeting supersonic steam while using the stethoscope on my plywood reactor cover.
Observe the blinky lights!The clatter of metering pumps being used as siphoning flow restrictions,…is admittedly a bit anachronistic on a nuclear reactor…ahem… and a bit exciting, don’t you think?
Note big brother filming from the camera above, waiting to capture your rapturous pirouette! -
If I had dollar for every Internet pundit that said that about one of Rossi’s mock science experiments, I could install a nice pool, complete with glass dome, hot tub, spa, heating and air conditioning.
If I had a dollar for that I could build an Energy Out > Energy In machine
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Mechanical spectroscopy observation of LiAlH4 decomposition
This is about hydrogen storage particle so it is not releted with LENR as is.
But this can be used to generate the excess heat by LENR under the proper condition.
This may be related to E-CAT.
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This may be related to E-CAT.
Are you insinuating it is a scam too?
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Are you insinuating it is a scam too?
No it(Mechanical spectroscopy observation of LiAlH4 decomposition) is just hydrogen storage metal.
No thing to do with cold fusion as is.
But it can be used to E-CAST type cold fusion.
E-CAT uses the following mechanism.
a reaction between the first excited-state of Li-7 and a proton, followed by
the breakdown of Be-8 into two alphas with high kinetic energy, but without gamma
radiation.
So E-CAT need the Nano-particle which contains hydrogen to make hydride bond to Li, so Nano-particle containing hydrogen is necessary to supply hydrogen onto Li surface to make hydride.
Note that cold fusion can be done to compress the hydride bonding(H-Li) for E-cat mechanism.
From the paper(Mechanical spectroscopy observation of LiAlH4 decomposition)
LiAlH4 contain a huge amount of H so it can provide H to Nano-particle of Li-7 to make hydride bonding.
Note that this mechanism does not require D but Hydrogen is OK, which is the advantage of this method.
In case of D2O cold fusion it is very difficult to keep the quality of D2O because it absorb the moisture from the air, so the Nano-particle fuel with H and H supply from Nano-particle of LiAlH4 is the better way to keep cold fusion for a longer-term.
I found the following procedure of E-CAT.
[5] Cook, N.D. (2010) Models of the Atomic
Nucleus, 2nd ed., Springer, Berlinhttps://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/CookNmodelsofth.pdf
The main element of the thermal generator is a heat cell, 8, which is a cylindrical tube, the inner volume of which filled with fuel. Initial fuel consisted of a mixture of uniform mixture of Ni powder weighing 0.9g and lithium aluminum hydride (Li[AlH4]) - 0.1g. The nickel powder used was PNE-1 (GOST 9722-97). The geometrical dimensions of these cells are as follows: length 160 mm, inner diameter 4 mm, and outer diameter 6 mm. The cell was constructed using high temperature materials such as stainless steel and ceramics 12X18H10T based on Al2O3. One end of the tube is hermetically sealed using heat resistant cement (12); and at the other end (11), the thermocouple (9) was mounted using the same cement. On the outside of the heat cell a second thermocouple (10) was mounted in the center laterally. Thus, during the experiment, the temperature was recorded at the same time in two different points on the cell, allowing not only measurement at the beginning of the reaction, but also to trace the development of temperature.
They actually uses "Ni powder weighing 0.9g and lithium aluminum hydride (Li[AlH4]) - 0.1g."
So the mechanism is that Ni powder on H-Ni bomding by the H supply from Li[AlH4].
I think that this can generate the heat by the reaction of small hydrogen to Ni.
I am not sure of the E-CAT mechanism which is correct for the current reactor.
But I think that this is possible( compression of Ni-H can create small H(neutron) and it is absorbed to Ni nucleus.
I am not sure of the excess heat generation of this.)
Refer to the following paper if you want to understand about this mechanism.
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/a…st1964/22/5/22_5_337/_pdf
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1504/1504.01261.pdf
On the Nuclear Mechanisms Underlying the Heat Production
by the E-Cat
Norman D. Cook1 and Andrea Rossi2
a reaction between the first excited-state of Li-7 and a proton, followed by
the breakdown of Be-8 into two alphas with high kinetic energy, but without gamma
radiation.
below schematics is in the above paper.
Li hydride particle
I guess that E-CAT originally use Ni powder weighing 0.9g and lithium aluminum hydride (Li[AlH4]) - 0.1g..
But this has the lower excess heat generation and mother element need to be lighter than Pd and so
They select Li because Li is the lightest metal.
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Hello nkodama
Do you have an opinion on DR Mills
Hydrino?
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I am not sure of the E-CAT mechanism which is correct for the current reactor.
Are you saying that Rossi's current version, the SKLed, which will be sold for $25, includes a reactor?
That would be really impressive.
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Post on ECW has me thinking.
I think we better warn the credit card companies and credit bureaus. Can you imaging them being on the hook for $25 million in fraudulant charges if Rossi accepts credit cards?
How easy is it to set up to accept credit cards? Would they let him do it? Does Italy have an extradition treaty when he flees the country?
You only pay the day of or the day before shipping. If you pay with a credit card, you are protected. If Rossi does not deliver after payment, he is not protected."
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Andrea Rossi
July 11, 2021 at 6:05 AMErnst:
The SK is not for sale yet, we sell the energy.
Please see
Warm Regards,
A.R.
The charlatanry continues.
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Frank Acland
July 11, 2021 at 7:58 AMDear Andrea,
Are you currently taking orders to sell heat to qualified customers from the E-Cat SK?
Kind regards,
Frank Acland
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Yes, orders coming from the martians and venusians.
Truth, don't be silly. It is only the martians buying the SK heat. The average surface temperature on Venus is 864 degrees Fahrenheit.
The Venusians are waiting for the ECat SKAC. (Air conditioning)
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I don't know what all you morons have been doing, but I am going to build me an Ecat!
Just follow the darn instructions.
Dr Rossi,
do you think that an expert of the art studying carefuly your paper
http://www.researchgate.net/pu…nge_particle_interactions
and your US patent can make an at least rudimental reproduction of the Ecat ?
Ruby
Ruby:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
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I don't know what all you morons have been doing, but I am going to build me an Ecat!
Just follow the darn instructions.
I am sure that some believers done it in their bathroom, but due to the fact that it doesn't work to avoid cold they silently replaced by a boiler.
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I don't know what all you morons have been doing, but I am going to build me an Ecat!
Just follow the darn instructions.
Dr Rossi,
do you think that an expert of the art studying carefuly your paper
http://www.researchgate.net/pu…nge_particle_interactions
and your US patent can make an at least rudimental reproduction of the Ecat ?
Ruby
Ruby:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
I built an ecat-like thing that made a good-enough-for-Rossi-and-the-Professors COP of 7.2 , twice as efficient as the Lugano device.
Then I built a simple quark-x like thing, (the Nog-Y), that uses no power when measured like Rossi does, and can operate without the ground wire connected at all! (Once started). The controller could easily fit inside a cigarette pack, just like Rossi’s. -
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I don't know what all you morons have been doing, but I am going to build me an Ecat!
Just follow the darn instructions.
Dr Rossi,
do you think that an expert of the art studying carefuly your paper
http://www.researchgate.net/pu…nge_particle_interactions
and your US patent can make an at least rudimental reproduction of the Ecat ?
Ruby
Ruby:
Yes.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Actually, I have never heard of any attempts to replicate the embodiment in Rossi’s patent.
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