Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

    Quote from THHuxleynew

    We know that Rossi makes these (elementary to a specialist) mistakes.

    They are not just elementary to specialists. They are elementary with anyone with a high school diploma.

    When he was calculating Kelvin vs, Centigrade values and his Centigrade values where higher than his Kelvin values, this was pure incompetence that anyone can see.

    He only corrected them after I contacted him correcting his math (it was quite hard, minus vs plus).

    I can prove this to anyone who asks.

    The fact that someone like this could supposedly write a high-level physics paper "with the highest number of full reads" it total idiocy.

    Quote from THHuxleynew

    There was a fascinating in-depth write-up of him by a woman reporter (forgive me - someone else will need to find the link) based on his staying with her + husband for a few days.

    Here it is: http://www.infinite-energy.com…ng-a-lawsuit-in-lenr.html


    But the article shed light not only on the Rossi's adventure, but also on the entire CF story. This is a crucial step:

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    I met Rossi in Rome in 2009. My husband Michael Melich, a research professor at the Naval Postgraduate School, had been involved with cold fusion since the start of the field, when his father Mitchell Melich (who had been on the advisory board of the National Cold Fusion Institute in 1989) called and asked him to read technical material. Through that connection he met Wilford (Wilf) Hansen, professor of physics at Utah State University and also a member of the NCFI advisory panel who took responsibility for the panel to evaluate data sets provided by Fleischmann and Pons. His report was presented to the panel and subsequently presented and published in the ICCF2 (July 1991) proceedings. Because of the integrity that he brought to that evaluation, efforts were taken to obtain data sets from Cal Tech, MIT and Harwell. Harwell co-operated and Hansen and Melich presented the results of their analysis at ICCF3 in Japan. On the basis of this work and other study, Melich concluded that the claims of Fleischmann and Pons were worthy of serious consideration.


    It is worth reminding that ICCF3 was the conference where F&P presented the results of the "1992 boil-off experiment" and showed their laboratory video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n88YdKYv8sw


    Cold Fusion is a drama with many actors. No doubt that Rossi is one of the more interesting characters, but his critics forget that he was inspired by F&P, the main heroes on stage, and was supported for many years by the same people who were closely related to the two electrochemists and who strenuously touted the validity. of their results.


    How did it happen that these sort of fakeries got the backing of so many world-class experts, including esteemed academics and even Nobel laureates? Well, here is a possible answer: https://www.mobusinc.com/tip-53 .

    Edmund Husserl - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org

    The elaboration of phenomenology[edit]

    Some years after the 1900–1901 publication of his main work, the Logische Untersuchungen (Logical Investigations), Husserl made some key conceptual elaborations which led him to assert that in order to study the structure of consciousness, one would have to distinguish between the act of consciousness[70] and the phenomena at which it is directed (the objects as intended). Knowledge of essences would only be possible by "bracketing" all assumptions about the existence of an external world. This procedure he called "epoché". These new concepts prompted the publication of the Ideen (Ideas) in 1913, in which they were at first incorporated, and a plan for a second edition of the Logische Untersuchungen.

    From the Ideen onward, Husserl concentrated on the ideal, essential structures of consciousness. The metaphysical problem of establishing the reality of what we perceive, as distinct from the perceiving subject, was of little interest to Husserl in spite of his being a transcendental idealist. Husserl proposed that the world of objects—and of ways in which we direct ourselves toward and perceive those objects—is normally conceived of in what he called the "natural attitude", which is characterized by a belief that objects exist distinct from the perceiving subject and exhibit properties that we see as emanating from them (this attitude is also called physicalist objectivism). Husserl proposed a radical new phenomenological way of looking at objects by examining how we, in our many ways of being intentionally directed toward them, actually "constitute" them (to be distinguished from materially creating objects or objects merely being figments of the imagination); in the Phenomenological standpoint, the object ceases to be something simply "external" and ceases to be seen as providing indicators about what it is, and becomes a grouping of perceptual and functional aspects that imply one another under the idea of a particular object or "type". The notion of objects as real is not expelled by phenomenology, but "bracketed" as a way in which we regard objects—instead of a feature that inheres in an object's essence founded in the relation between the object and the perceiver. In order to better understand the world of appearances and objects, phenomenology attempts to identify the invariant features of how objects are perceived and pushes attributions of reality into their role as an attribution about the things we perceive (or an assumption underlying how we perceive objects). The major dividing line in Husserl's thought is the turn to transcendental idealism.[71]

    In a later period, Husserl began to wrestle with the complicated issues of intersubjectivity, specifically, how communication about an object can be assumed to refer to the same ideal entity (Cartesian Meditations, Meditation V). Husserl tries new methods of bringing his readers to understand the importance of phenomenology to scientific inquiry (and specifically to psychology) and what it means to "bracket" the natural attitude. The Crisis of the European Sciences is Husserl's unfinished work that deals most directly with these issues. In it, Husserl for the first time attempts a historical overview of the development of Western philosophy and science, emphasizing the challenges presented by their increasingly (one-sidedly) empirical and naturalistic orientation. Husserl declares that mental and spiritual reality possess their own reality independent of any physical basis,[72] and that a science of the mind ('Geisteswissenschaft') must be established on as scientific a foundation as the natural sciences have managed: "It is my conviction that intentional phenomenology has for the first time made spirit as spirit the field of systematic scientific experience, thus effecting a total transformation of the task of knowledge."[73]

    Quote from Walter Pegeto

    "High level physics paper"?

    are you joking? A non peer-reviewed pre-print with more than 50 citations of pseudoscience papers?

    A non-peer-reviewed preprint with lots of long words claiming that recent UFO sightings are in fact alien craft with gravitic drive might get a lot of downloads - especially if it had enough pictures and used the word "graviton" and "gravitonic" enough.


    But Rossi is a specialised interest with quite a narrow fan club. And he is an inveterate liar known to use aliases to make his website look better. I'd not want to bet on anything he put up having a large number of (real) downloads.

    Quote from sam12

    It is disappointing that Rossi sceptics can’t see past the end of there Noses.

    And what, Sam12, may I ask, do you see past the end of your nose when looking at Rossi?

    As many times before, please provide ANY verifiable and remotely believable evidence that Rossi has ANY thing that works... After 12+ years..... any verifiable evidence. Even someone who has seen a Rossi demo and will come out and currently say "yes I think it works". Not some obscure quote from 10 years ago, but say in the last 2 years......anyone one!


    Perhaps you can ask Alan Smith.... he personally saw a QuarkX and the demo that was a masterpiece as described by many on ECW.... please ask him how believable Rossi is........ :/



    Quote from Alan Smith

    But he also wrote his thesis on Relativity at Bologna Uni and got a distinction for it. I think Rossi is smarter than your average bear,

    Well... short memories I guess. Please look back and you will find that Rossi's "Physic thesis" was on the philosophy of physics and had nothing to do with actual physics calculations or theory. His degree is in philosophy and that is what he wrote his thesis for.... philosophy not physics....


    yet another "thumbs up" for a clearly fraudulent person... I cannot understand why.

    Quote from truth

    Chatter by a pseudo-poet believer of a farce.

    Amateur poet

    Few knows it


    To believe is to not know for sure.

    i.e. Pseudo-surety is the root of believers and only a component of all disbelievers. No?


    MAY 27, 2013 BY GREGORY GOBLE

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    Unravelled


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    Ravel (the phase before unravelment)


    Ravel


    Verb

    raveled, raveling, also ravels


    Verb Transitive

    1. To separate the fibers or threads of (cloth, for example); unravel.


    2. To clarify by separating the aspects of.


    3. To tangle or complicate.


    Verb Intransitive

    1. To become separated into its component threads; unravel or fray.


    2. To become tangled or confused.


    Noun – A Raveling

    1. A broken or discarded thread.


    2. A tangle.


    Ravelen – Obsolete Dutch


    Ravel – [ˈrævəl]

    raveller n. – ravelly adj – ravel vbs, also -els, -elling, -elled / in U.S. -els -eling, -eled


    1. to tangle (threads, fibres, etc.) or (of threads, fibres, etc.) to become entangled


    2. (often foll by out) to tease or draw out (the fibres of a fabric or garment) or (of a garment or fabric) to fray out in loose ends; unravel


    3. (tr; usually foll by out) to disentangle or resolve to ravel out a complicated story


    4. to break up (a road surface) in patches or (of a road surface) to begin to break up; fret; scab


    5. Archaic to make or become confused or complicated


    Ravelen – A Middle Dutch Noun


    A tangle or complication.

    (quantum energy is presently attaining unravelment)


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    Images from

    “Ancient Celtic Knots Inspire Scientific Breakthrough”

    Minute knots and chains have industrial and medical uses.

    The Irish Times Science article 



    Color-changing fiber and theory reveal fundamental mystery of knots
    Color-changing fibers and mathematical theory combine to disclose the simple rules that govern the strength and stability of commonly used knots, researchers…
    www.eurekalert.org

    Color-changing fiber and theory reveal fundamental mystery of knots


    AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE (AAAS)


    Color-changing fibers and mathematical theory combine to disclose the simple rules that govern the strength and stability of commonly used knots, researchers report. The new study addresses a centuries-old mystery - what makes knots work? Fibers tied into knots and tangles remain one of humanity's most ancient and enduring technologies and play a ubiquitous, fundamental role in our daily lives. From ships' sails and shoes to micro-sutures and turbulent quantum liquids, it's well known that some knots are better suited than others for specific purposes - a fact that's given rise to a great variety of knotted structures. It's known that the subtle interaction between topology (how a knot is tied), elasticity and friction give knots their inherent mechanical properties and strength. However, there remains no comprehensive mathematical theory capable of fully explaining how knots "work." Thus, the ability to understand why some knots hold fast while others easily slip currently evades explanation. To address these long-enduring questions, Vishal Patil and colleagues developed an experimental and theoretical analysis that reveals the key rules underlying the mechanical stability of "bend knots," which are commonly used in both sailing and climbing activities. Combining optomechanical experiments using recently developed color-changing photonic fibers, which show stress differences in different parts of a knot and theoretical knot modeling, Patil et al. were able to quantifiably predict the strain distribution in a knotted structure and reveal several key topological factors that determine a knot's stability. According to the authors, the framework could be used to design and explore new classes of knots with specific behaviors.

    Hi Bob

    I look to Nov 25/21 to see what Rossi has to offer and if he has

    the important Safety Certification.

    If he does and if the product is as

    good as advertised then it could get

    real interesting.

    Of course proving it is as good as

    advertised will be important.

    Not to much to ask for anybody

    even the Skeptics.

    If nothing comes out of it then I

    will accept the Wrath of the sceptics.

    Only 117 days away unless

    It all fall apart before that.


    We have to report you on cold fusion (ECAT) - BetterWorldSolutions - The Netherlands
    One of these followed techniques is that of Andrea Rossi’s ECAT. The claim is quite simple: with a cold-fusion device the output gives more energy than the…
    www.betterworldsolutions.eu

    One has to be impressed by the determination and loyalty of Rossi followers. The only “news” about Rossi has been his blog posts for two-and-a-half years. He isn’t even in the revolutionary energy business anymore. He’s promising lightbulbs. And yet they still believe and wait. What a colossal waste of human energy that could otherwise be directed towards something… real.

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