Yah well, several professors of physics have endorsed Rossi's claims so perhaps being a professor of physics doesn't make one an infallible oracle. Good luck finding Maxwell's Demon .
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Roger,
Too bad the LT Ecat (1MW) is now obsolete. It had already been proven in the year long Doral operation, and according to one of the Licensees (Proia), and Eng48 (ECW), had customers lined up ready to buy. It was as close to market ready as anything Rossi has ever had. Now, well, it is dead and buried. So sad.
But looking on the bright side; we only have to wait a long, long, long time for the QX to get to market! By then, he should be at sigma....infinity?
I'm sorry but that doesn't address what you wrote before: "most of the planet knows there will never be a product at all, for obvious reasons."
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Good luck understanding what Maxwell's Demon is Mary, and why that's a silly comment when referring to an open system.
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Roger, I guess you think you were being provocative in asking what reasons one would have for saying there will not be any e-cat product. The obvious answer is that the e-cat does not work (never did and never will). Obviously you believe otherwise. Unfortunately, there is no good reason to believe otherwise. But enjoy your faith.
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OT for this thread but here is a list of all applications of graphene known so far. Anyone see anything about energy production? Some folks here seem to be a great fan of getting something for nothing.
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Wikipedia? For bleeding edge research?
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Wikipedia is usually updated fairly quickly for new advances of sufficient interest. Don't like the article? Edit it yourself.
Graphene and claims it can do amazing things, like maybe produce or extract energy from ambient conditions or some mysterious "ether" seem to becoming more and more gambits for some scams. Of course, there is a lot of perfectly legitimate research going on about all aspects and potential uses for the substance.
See for examples of some caveat emptor's:
http://www.independent.co.uk/n…probably-are-9030950.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fin…ene-investment-scams.html
https://www.theguardian.com/co…racles-plastics-materials
Graphene is known to have unusual properties which lend themselves to incorporation into a variety of products. But none is a free energy generator.
Does the forum have or want a thread on this issue (the free energy part)? I am not all that interested in it until someone wants to lure investors and schedules a demo. Then, it's probably worth attention. And I wouldn't be too surprised if some LENR quack like Rossi adopts graphene into his "tech" and "IP."
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He seems to be getting a modest budget to do what appears to be legitimate research. However, the concept of getting energy from molecular motion seems to violate the second law of thermodynamics so it's pretty improbable that it will perform as claimed and be a practical energy source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics
Anyway, are you suggesting that high power production from LENR exists and is being repressed? It is hard to see how that would ever happen.
Reluctant as I am to question one of the Grand Old Men of this forum, could you explain precisely your objection?
Harvesting energy from vibrations induced by environmental heat seems to me to violate nothing. Heat pumps do it all the time; and it's not as if any great efficiency is being proposed.
Just harvesting energy in a novel way.
Still, I stand to be corrected.
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You'll be waiting a long time Nigel... The best you can hope for IMO is another non-sequitur, but if history is anything to go by he'll just pretend he didn't type his daft proclamation in the first place.
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My reply is in the clearance thread here: Clearance Items
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Oh look! More JONP users suffering from The Stockolm Syndrome
Are they already on the list?
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Celestina
December 4, 2017 at 10:55 AM
Dear Andrea:
Congratulations for the convincing demo you made in Stockolm at the Royal Academy of Engineering.
When the next demo?
Cheers
C.
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Thomas
December 4, 2017 at 10:55 AM
Dr Rossi,
We are still shocked for what you have given evidence of in Stockolm. When will we be able to buy a domestic E-Cat QX?
Thomas
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Celestina
December 4, 2017 at 10:55 AM
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Roger Green • a day ago]
'The Ecat Licensees for Africa, India, Japan, Korea, SE Asia and Spain - wish Andrea good luck with the upcoming demo, and eagerly await a independent validation in the near future. We have supported Andrea now for many years thru thick and thin, and wish him the best- he deserves it !'
This is interesting. Roger Green (Ecat Australia/Ecat licensee) sent the above "best of luck" message to Rossi right before the DPS. But Rossi had this to say today (weeks later) on his propaganda site:
Dear Dr Rossi
Thank you for the demo the other day it is always exciting to see the ecats out and about. Is Roger Green still your commercial licensee in Australia?
Thank you
Andrea Rossi December 13, 2017 at 8:09 AM
Manuel Cilia:
Thank you for your attention to our work.
We do not have licensees in Australia.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
So has Rossi thrown another licensee under the bus? Obviously there is some difference of opinion between them. Green thinks he is still a licensee, and Rossi thinks he is not. My guess is that Rossi is using another sockpuppet to send a message to Green. I would also think Green is trying to stay in the picture just in case Rossi has something, and ready with a lawsuit if he does (have something).
Please Dottore Rossi, do not ever allow an independent test. I do not want this to end.
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Roger Green • a day ago]
'The Ecat Licensees for Africa, India, Japan, Korea, SE Asia and Spain - wish Andrea good luck with the upcoming demo, and eagerly await a independent validation in the near future. We have supported Andrea now for many years thru thick and thin, and wish him the best- he deserves it !'
This is interesting. Roger Green (Ecat Australia/Ecat licensee) sent the above "best of luck" message to Rossi right before the DPS. But Rossi had this to say today (weeks later) on his propaganda site:
In Alan's quoting, there is no "Australia" ...
It's Africa, India, Japan, Korea, SE Asia and Spain
I dunno if "SE Asia" is OKAY for locating "Australia" ...BTW: I know the Roger Green web site and the confusing news there!
Nice picture from the old 1MW dream still online down under .-)
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Bang,
This is from RGs website:
"Eco Global Fuels PTY LTD is the Ecat Agent for the region of Australasia which comprises the following territories.
- Australia
- New Zealand
- Pacific Islands
- Papua New Guinea (PNG)
- East Timor Islands
For inquiries for the 1 MW (warm) Ecat and for business collaborations, joint ventures, commercialization of the Ecat products and any other areas of development
Contact:
Roger Green, Director
All inquiries will be handled with confidentiality. We will usually request a NDA for further discussion of the Ecat purchase and any Business opportunities
We are looking forward to providing the above countries with clean renewable Ecat Thermal Heat for all of their industrial processes."
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A good laugh before bedtime:
- Frank Acland
December 13, 2017 at 6:42 PM
Dear Andrea,
Very interesting.
1. It sounds to me like you have had a large increase in workers — am I right?
2. Is your team working on one or two continents?
3. So far, how do you rate the progress of the increased team?
4. Do you have the funds at your disposal to achieve your goal of first product introduction in 2018?
Thank you very much,
Frank Acland
- Andrea Rossi
December 13, 2017 at 9:39 PM
Frank Acland:
1- not yet, but soon yes
2- two
3- enough
4- enough
Warm Regards,
A.R.
- Frank Acland
December 13, 2017 at 6:42 PM
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A latecomer 'olm
Welcome "Ira" !
Thanks for joining the others, you are part of a really fantastic group!
Too good to be real
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Ira
December 13, 2017 at 10:19 AM
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
I watched the video of the Stockolm demonstration of the Ecat QX on http://www.ecat.com: fantastic.
Congratulations
Ira
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Ira
December 13, 2017 at 10:19 AM
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'olm watch strikes again
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Brian
December 14, 2017 at 2:06 PM
Dr Andrea Rossi,
I watched the full video of the Stockolm event on http://www.ecat.com
Fantastic.
And Elizbeth (really?!) joined the female Rossi forces, thank you for your sustain, E.
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Elizbeth
December 14, 2017 at 2:18 PM
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
Congratulations for the new website http://www.ecat.com
Cheers
E.
Great site!
"The Rossi Effect giving power to the ECAT HT has been validated by 3rd Party:"
"ECAT Solid Fuel including Leonardo corp. property Hydrogen Tablets Drive; Electricity and/or Natural Gas"ECAT HT Validated by Top Physicists
Really!
Hydrogen Tablets Drive! Drive!!! Tablets! And Gas!! And physicists!
Gimme more DRIVE! and Tablets!
The future is bright ... (after 2 inch of Jameson(TM) Caskmates)
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Brian
December 14, 2017 at 2:06 PM
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I love it when Rossi's admirers can't even spell their own names!
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And they call him Dr Rossi...
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A good laugh ...
Shane, I get the feeling you think Dr. Rossi is not prepared for the production of the QuarkX on an industrial scale.
Easy-peasy for Dr. Rossi.
He just needs to tweak his existing production line for the e-cats a little bit, and mass production of the QuarkX can start. - In the factory which he confirmed in 2012 to be under construction, which he promised to be in operation in 2013 (capacity: 1 mill e-cats per year), and which supposed to be in “standby” at a secret location since then.
(The rumour has it, that the factory is on the Northpole, next to Santa Claus premise.
Who volunteers to go there and check? S. Allan?):
QuoteAndrea Rossi, March 24th, 2012 at 9:06 AM
Dear “Barney” (or, better, Giovanni Cesaretti):
Thank you for this comment of yours, which gives me the chance to answer to all the stupidities that some imbeciles, like your friend B., have put around, after tips got from some puppeteers.
Here are the answers:
1- I confirm that we are manufactiring a production line to make 1 million pcs per year
2- in this process we had all the permissions so far necessary from the competent Authorities, and to say that we have been stopped is totally false
3- it is totally false, as the puppet said, I am losing my collaborators: actually, I didn’t lose one, while they increase by the day
4- where the factory is in construction is confidential, and the reason for which is confidential is that we want to work in peace, without hurdles are put by puppeteers and puppets like the Snake or B., just to give a paradigmatic example, full time paid, to try to stop us, from their puppeteers
5- you say that to maintain confidential such a factory is impossible: obviously, you understand nothing of making a factory. Ask to somebody able to make a factory and get information to improve your knowledge of the matter.
6- conserve this comment of mine: if within 16 months we will not have in operation this factory, I will pay you pizza and bier.
Say hello to your friend B.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
How can anybody believe anything what this Rossi guy says/claims?
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