Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

  • Abd mentioned in his: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax on the Cold Fusion Now! podcast that funding was drying up for LENR research due to Rossi. No one wanted to fund something that might only produce watts, when he was producing kWs. That IH was interested in LENR as a whole, but figured first thing on their agenda was to determine if Rossi were real.


    They found out the expensive way, he was not.

    Rossi still looks real with the EcatQX.

  • Rossi still looks real with the EcatQX.


    Mr Rossi is doing exactly the same things with the EcatQX as he did when he introduced the ECat. He is undertaking demos, talking about collaborations with unnamed large commercial partners, saying he has to wait for certification, claiming roboticized manufacturing plants are being built, and maintaining strict secrecy


    However Rossi looks, it is exactly as he looked with the ECat.

  • Mr Rossi is doing exactly the same things with the EcatQX as he did when he introduced the ECat. He is undertaking demos, talking about collaborations with unnamed large commercial partners, saying he has to wait for certification, claiming roboticized manufacturing plants are being built, and maintaining strict secrecy


    However Rossi looks, it is exactly as he looked with the ECat.


    With the addition (not that its needed) of having abandoned a previous technology which he claims has been working - reliably - for 7 years (remember that factory heater?) and which would be much more applicable to his target market of industrial use - because higher power per unit.


    Even taking every word Rossi says as literally true, it makes no sense.


    But then many people realised a long time ago that taking any words Rossi utters as literally true is most unwise.

  • Rossi still looks real with the EcatQX.

    Sam,


    What exactly do you mean?

    It has been over 7 years now.


    Elon Musk has built entire robitized factories, multiple electric car models, global energy storage systems, recoverable rocket ships, Hyperloop transportation systems, tunnel boring machines etc.

    In the same time frame, Rossi has not been able to cobble together $150 of plumbing and electrical parts into anything remotely saleable.

    At some time, even the most fanatical of the Rossi zealots must realize that they were conned.

  • I don't agree the money is drying up - that only holds true of you look at the traditional sources of finance (who were never that keen anyway). There is a new group of wealthy millenials who are very interested in 'new paradigm' research who are actually quite keen to invest - in the right kind of research. The hard part is figuring out what that is.

  • Alan Smith

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    ...the right kind of research. The hard part is figuring out what that is.

    Not so hard maybe. It's the kind of research which shows that the concept is sound and the test rigs actually work when tested by people who really know what they are doing and are allowed to test without the inventor's hands on the experiment. The exact opposite of what IH did to vet Rossi.

  • @ seven_of_twenty,


    Are you suggesting that a scam which wasted more than $10M on a liar is good PR?


    I didn't say "good". I meant, the PR activity was incredibly successful considering the lack of any real basis of the product, and very effective for the LENR field. Over 80% of the many dozens of millions raised thanks the Ecat are available for other LENR experiments and for R&D in the field. Without the Ecat initiative, the LENR community would have got 100% of zero.

  • Over 80% of the many dozens of millions raised thanks the Ecat are available for other LENR experiments and for R&D in the field.

    Dozens of millions of dollars have not been raised for cold fusion. Not even millions. The money that has been made available, from places like the Japanese government, had nothing to do with Rossi. (That money ran out last year.)

  • It is amazing what Elon Musk has done with Goverment money compared to Rossi working with a few million private money.But I still take Rossi

    over Musk.


    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundi…overnment-support-already

  • Mr Rossi is doing exactly the same things with the EcatQX as he did when he introduced the ECat. He is undertaking demos, talking about collaborations with unnamed large commercial partners, saying he has to wait for certification, claiming roboticized manufacturing plants are being built, and maintaining strict secrecy


    However Rossi looks, it is exactly as he looked with the ECat.

    I have to agree with what you say Bruce H.

    The one thing I do see that is different is the high Confidence Rossi

    has in the EcatQX product compared to the not so confident he had in the

    Ecat.

  • R.I.P.


    That was Rossi's European patent filed in 2008, and it was only an application. Never was approved from what I can see. Even on his "Ecat.com" (actually Hydrofusion's site) there is no link to the patent....like he did not want to draw attention to it. Good reason, as he lists Ni, pressurized H gas, and copper linings to thermalize the radiations, being the process. So passe...as he has since contradicted his own wording for that patent in so many ways, and is on to smaller and better things.


    He still though has his Italian patent, which he has not done a damn thing with.