The NSA and CIA try hard to conduct their operations in secret
... not really, go to backwards of Illuminati ...
http://www.Itanimulli.com
The NSA and CIA try hard to conduct their operations in secret
... not really, go to backwards of Illuminati ...
http://www.Itanimulli.com
Sam,
There is something called "a joke". You should look into the concept some time.
Frank Acland comment from Ecat World.
Correct Sam, I am still positive. Based on my personal experience I am as convinced as ever that Andrea Rossi is working hard on a real technology. I have been in one of his labs and seen the evidence of someone doing serious work. I did see an E-Cat working, and if the measurement instrumentation was not faulty or tampered with, then it seemed to be doing something remarkable.
I agree with Mats, that Rossi is not a collaborator in terms of the LENR research community. He has his own ambitions and motivations. I think he wants to be the industrialist that brings LENR into the commercial realm on a large scale. I don't know if he will succced, but I think he will give everything he has got to do so.
As far as the upcoming presentation goes, I really don't know what to expect. I believe the presentation will happen, and I think Rossi wants to make a big impact with it, and if he does so he will need to do something compelling that will attract the attention of industry.
Frank visited Rossi at the Doral facility and after the lawsuit.
You should ask Frank if he saw 22 employees or anyone else for that matter.
According to realestate records, the Doral facility is no longer inhabited by Rossi.
You could inquire of Frank if any of the facilities he saw while visiting is still used by Rossi. According to reported public records they are not.
I only bring this up to point out that as with everything related to Rossi, you have to examibe the real facts, not the presented story. The story is like Orsen Well's radio broadcast if War of The Worlds. Many people actually believed it, but none of it was true! If they would have considered the actual details, they would not have been fooled!
Although I was fooled for a period myself about Rossi, once I started looking objectively and considered Rossi says is not fact, it did not take long to see the smokescreen.
Display More... real money and real estate.
This month Rossi is buying more condos in Miami.
https://www2.miami-dadeclerk.c…obile/StandardSearch.aspx
Search for Party-name “REFC Real”.
Maybe he has some money left from IH, or he found another
suckerinvestor.
Forty Two,
Good catch. Here is Rossi's active REFC Corporation: https://www.corporationwiki.co…state-corp/137192381.aspx
President: Henry Johnson...hmmm, where have I seen that name before?
CEO: Rossi
Director: Rossi's wife
They bought some more property in June 2018 as you called attention to. Wonder if that coincided with some new partnership? For the newbies; in 2013 Rossi bought 15 condos (2 in 2014) scattered around Miami with his IH money.
I guess donating to the children with cancer comes after he has made his fortune in real estate. Also, this may be the answer for those who ask why he keeps on with the scam if he does not have anything...maybe because it brings in the money for more real estate?
If you search carefully you will find another company, incorporated by his buddy Henry W. Johnson, where Rossi is the Director or CEO: QWWF Corporation in Coral Springs...
Companies with no business, no income...spending millions in condos, having a lot of employees, labs and a factory with robotic production line ready and in place...seems he is burning money like hell without selling something. Would be interesting how long this will last....
@Bob,
Frank Acland said, he “saw evidence of someone doing serious work”... could mean he didn’t see anybody actually working...but maybe he is referring to so something like the homedepot stuff that was presented in Stockholm, which is in the Rossi language indeed a working E-Cat...
If you search carefully you will find another company, incorporated by his buddy Henry W. Johnson, where Rossi is the Director or CEO: QWWF Corporation in Coral Springs...
Companies with no business, no income...spending millions in condos, having a lot of employees, labs and a factory with robotic production line ready and in place...seems he is burning money like hell without selling something. Would be interesting how long this will last....
In Italy Rossi's bioreactor produced a jewelry store, here in the US his Ecat produces condominiums. Quite the businessman!
I don't know if the babblers think there is a competition for who can come up with the most variations that Rossi is a fraud, or, have lingering doubts and are trying to convince themselves they are not wrong.
Either way, it is incredibly boring.
In Italy Rossi's bioreactor produced a jewelry store highly toxic industrial waste dumped into irrigation channels going to agricultural fields, here in the US his Ecat produces condominiums.
TIFFY
@Adrian Ashfield
Apologies for boring you. Here, https://www.coasttocoastam.com/ you will probably find posts and stories more to your liking. I'd refer you to PESN https://pesn.com/ but since Sterling Allan was jailed essentially for life, it seems to have fallen on hard times. Somehow, not one of the hundreds or thousands of free energy machines and schemes it used to promote seem to have become a success.
I don't know if the babblers think there is a competition for who can come up with the most variations that Rossi is a fraud, or, have lingering doubts and are trying to convince themselves they are not wrong.
Either way, it is incredibly boring.
AA - it is very funny. And anyone - given the plentiful evidence that Rossi's business is real estate, not LENR, who thinks otherwise is a psychological curiosity worth watching.
Sam,
There is something called "a joke". You should look into the concept some time.
HE HE HE
Just out of curiosity Adrian; do you know who Henry Johnson is, and what other company he was President of?
Just out of curiosity Adrian; do you know who Henry Johnson is, and what other company he was President of?
No I don't. Anyway I would prefer watching something like this to finding out.
No I don't.
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@Adrian Ashfield
Finally something we can agree on. Yuja Wang (your Youtube link) is an unbelievably flawless modern pianist, a master performer, consistently 100% enjoyable. I had somehow forgotten about her and I am so grateful you reminded me of her charm, incredible talent and virtuosity.
But you should really acquaint yourself with the buffoons surrounding Andrea Rossi. How can you not know of Rossi's attorney and company president, the redoubtable Henry Johnson?
No I don't. Anyway I would prefer watching something like this to finding out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnAQIRqvVYQ
Adrian,
I am not into classical, but after SOT's endorsement I listened. Very nice experience. Thx.
@Adrian,
I would prefer a pat on the back to a kick in the crotch, but we can't always get what we want.
Henry Johnson was the president of the illustrious indipendent Customer of Doral, JM Products nee JM Chemicals. And he is also Rossi's lawyer, and he knew nothing about what actually was going on in the Doral warehouse owned by the company he was president of because Rossi ran the Doral warehouse, Rossi dictated the "invoices" to IH from Doral, Rossi made all the purchases, Rossi funded the company, etc.
In other words, Mr. Johnson is a puppet paper president of Rossi's Florida companies.
Display More@Adrian,
I would prefer a pat on the back to a kick in the crotch, but we can't always get what we want.
Henry Johnson was the president of the illustrious indipendent Customer of Doral, JM Products nee JM Chemicals. And he is also Rossi's lawyer, and he knew nothing about what actually was going on in the Doral warehouse owned by the company he was president of because Rossi ran the Doral warehouse, Rossi dictated the "invoices" to IH from Doral, Rossi made all the purchases, Rossi funded the company, etc.
In other words, Mr. Johnson is a puppet paper president of Rossi's Florida companies.
This thread should probably be renamed “Trying to reason with Adrian and Sam” or perhaps “Exercise in Futility”.
I normally excercise in moderation.