Axil,
The old adage; "you can lead a horse to water, but you can not make it drink" is apropos here. Best IMO, you go look for it yourself, and not ask others to provide. Trust me, it is there.
I am willing to drink. show me the water. There is an old adage: "Trust but verify".
With all due respect...
You have permitted the trolls free reign to ravage this site. You got to take the bad with the good. In any event, the age of the Rossi Troll is almost over. When Rossi makes good on his product release in November, then the Trolls will lose all credibility and the volume of 'trollades;' will go way down.
And we all love and respect you also.
Pleasantries aside, had you declared those against Rossi trolls before Doral, maybe you would have had a point. But now, after the documents were made public, I do not think so. Maybe someone will spare you, and lead you to the water. That is their decision. IMO, I think you need to go find the water yourself. Then you will appreciate it more.
And we all love and respect you also.
Pleasantries aside, had you declared those against Rossi trolls before Doral, maybe you would have had a point. But now, after the documents were made public, I do not think so. Maybe someone will spare you, and lead you to the water. That is their decision. IMO, I think you need to go find the water yourself. Then you will appreciate it more.
What ever happened to the go;den rule of posting. Any statement of fact should be accompanied with a reference.
What ever happened to the go;den rule of posting. Any statement of fact should be accompanied with a reference.
"What happened" is that when the anti-Rossi crowd complied with your: "golden rule of posting", the few remaining Rossi supporters found the best way to save face, was to ignore the provided references.
"What happened" is that when the anti-Rossi crowd complied with your: "golden rule of posting", the few remaining Rossi supporters found the best way to save face, was to ignore the provided references.
I consider myself an objective observer. Facts as best as I can evaluate them form the basis of my opinions. Any statement that is not supported by a reference is therefore ignored until a reference is forthcoming. Any unsupported statement without a reference is just an opinion.
Any statement that is not supported by a reference is therefore ignored until a reference is forthcoming.
Oh give us a break. It has been referenced and described in detail here many times. Do your own search. You are just making excuses. You wouldn't look even if we gave you a reference to the docket. You haven't looked at anything else there, or at the Penon report, so don't pretend you would look if we gave you the reference.
Well Axil, we still adore you. You and I respectfully erupt against each other on a 3 month cycle. See you in 3. Take care.
Oh give us a break. It has been referenced and described in detail here many times. Do your own search. You are just making excuses. You wouldn't look even if we gave you a reference to the docket. You haven't looked at anything else there, or at the Penon report, so don't pretend you would look if we gave you the reference.
The exception here is that Russian theft of fuel is intriguing...like something out of a spy story. I am interested by the international espionage nature that this situation could portend.
The exception here is that Russian theft of fuel is intriguing...like something out of a spy story. I am interested by the international espionage nature that this situation could portend.
Very funny. Again, however, if you had the slightest interest in finding this, you could use the search feature here. Or there may be one at Abd's site. But you won't do that, and even if we gave you a link, you wouldn't look, so stop pretending and trying to evade with silly jokes.
Very funny. Again, however, if you had the slightest interest in finding this, you could use the search feature here. Or there may be one at Abd's site. But you won't do that, and even if we gave you a link, you wouldn't look, so stop pretending and trying to evade with silly jokes.
I found the reference and the Russians had nothing to do with the IH testing. The Russian reference was something that Rossi just said.
If Rossi did not permit dummy testing, how did the dummy come to be built? It sounds like IH was trying to discredit Rossi. Who first loaded the fuel in the 10 test reactors? Rossi must have done that loading. IH had no desire or know how in regard with such fuel loading.
By the way, the fuel carries the LENR active agent that is directly released into the structure of the reactor, assuming the reactor is a tube reactor. After the agent is released, the fuel could well be removed and the reactor could still become active. MFMP saw signs of the agent all over the LION tube after it escaped from the diamond carriers. In addition, me356 submitted to this site a dozen SEMs of the active LENR agent leaving fuel particles. There is also ECCO fuel micro-graphs showing the agent leaving fuel particles. Rossi's solid commercial reactor came with a sealed 12 by 12 inch steel fuel wafer. Rossi was developing the Lugano type tube reactor that IH latter deminstated. This must have been the Rossi was selling to IH, not the Lugano type tube reactor. That reactor was IH's baby.
Those reactors worked for awhile, but as time passed they failed.
according to who,
Rossi says?
Define awhile?
Measured by who?
On equipment validated by who?
How much excess heat did they show?
Let me guess, Rossi?
Display Moreaccording to who,
Rossi says?
Define awhile?
Measured by who?
On equipment validated by who?
How much excess heat did they show?
Let me guess, Rossi?
I already posted on this. If you are interested, look it up.
Display MoreWoodworker, Re comment 5,558.
Remember your earlier 5 questions that you thought I couldn't answer? (You never commented on my reply).
Well I could answer your current comment just as easily but your insults have provided the disincentive not to debate with you. Added to which you babble about alternate universes etc.
If you had read the other side of the story, rather than just relying on IH and this thread for your info, you could answer most of your questions yourself.
My most sincerest and humblest apologies, and, in honor of our Roman friend and inspiration, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Please allow me to explicate my excuses: first, you stated that you were going to no longer pay any attention to my babbling, so forgive me for not addressing your concerns more promptly, secondly, life unfortunately interfered and I had to ghost a Memorandum of Points and Authorities for a property dispute, and third, I asked you to quote my exact words, as you so often and so generously demand from others, solely I am certain for purposes of improving and developing our pitiful skills, where I allegedly said that you would not respond, and knowing your intense concern and feelings about accurate citations I was confident, and am still waiting patiently, for you to so identify my rude and clearly scurrilous insinuation that you would be too timid to respond, all so that I may then attempt, using my meager skills, to properly frame an appropriate apology and atone for my undoubted sins.
Display MoreJPR and Rossi are getting a little pissed off. Next comes the "snakes and clowns", so maybe you guys should tone it down:
- JPR August 5, 2018 at 4:34 PM
Dear Dr Andrea Rossi,
You too have some trolls that spend almost full time their days, obviously paid by your enemies for some reason, disparaging you in many ways with blatantly false news.
I noticed you do not react: why?
JPR
- Andrea Rossi August 5, 2018 at 5:35 PM
JPR:
I do not react because it is useless. They produce, as you correctly say, false news, we produce plants. I have better to do than read their trollades, let alone answer them.
They cannot stop the diffusion of my plants and that is the sole reason of my life. About the disparaging of my character, people are not stupid and understand what the trolls are for. When a general is winning a war, the growls of the enemies do not change the facts in the battlefield. Facts overcome false news.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
I had to respond, just had to:
On the JONP:
"JPR:
Am I one of those persons you allege to be a troll and is being paid by Rossi’s enemies? After all, I believe he is a fraud and am willing to state that on the record. I base that conclusion primarily on the statements he made and documents introduced in the IH litigation (note that a primary source for my conclusion is Rossi’s own words and actions).
My name is Howard Michael Appel and my email is howardappel@yahoo. I live in California and if you look me up on the California State Bar website (a directory of all attorneys licensed in California) you will find my complete contact information.
If you believe that I am being paid for my posts, please say so on the record and please make sure to provide your name and address."
Wow, another one:
https://e-catworld.com/2018/08…ing-e-cat-control-system/
... by retired military specialists ?
... when is a military specialist usually retired ?
That means, what is the average age of an retired military specialist ?
... that means, how long could such a person collect/learn about the newest protocols used in communication over the internet ?
What can we expect to get from "retired military specialists" in the "field of remote control" ?
I assume, they will not control the cats wireless, they maybe wireless inside the customer's plant, but in any way, Rossis fools need to get access to the customer's infrastructure first.
Ok.... what do retired military specialists know about how to set up a firewall and an IDS ?
How to filter ports, configure the IDS and allow external IP's to reach the customer ?
Let us assume, they want to protect their device, internally.
Ok, there must be an interface, usually a lan - port...
Then... a control unit.
The control unit must be operated... by an operating system usually...
There are thousands of devices on the world, which operate like this.... and guess what...
they were assembled WITHOUT the help of retired WTF.....
OMFG.
BTW:
3 weeks ago he failed to combine the gas turbine and his cat.
2 weeks ago he was working on a fascinating heat exchanger.
This week he is working on the link/interface.....
I am sorry, but this is no PLAN, no strategy, no ORDER nothing, which makes any of his shit more reliable, than it already is(not).
Can anybody arrest this idiot ?
Those reactor burned out after a time. Let me explain through an analogy to make it simple, A incandescent light bulb will work great until it burns out. The filament deteriorates over time, This issue involves the deterioration of materials. Like this type of light bulb, this solid fueled based reactor will burn out after a time. Can you get your head around this concept?
Axil: As I said in my last post, and you ignore, I fully understand the possibility of deterioration.
What you need to explain is why IH DID NOT OBSERVE deterioration. Specifically they had a whole load of these reactors on test, all giving the same positive results. They did not observe slowly decreasing results. The results were stable and positive from day 1. The issue was that these possitive reuslts were in fcat (as they dicovered0 a measurement artifact. Therefore a whole load of Lugano-style reactors given to IH by Rossi as working product, in fact never worked.
Do you understand that? How could the IH reaction to never-working reactors documented in discovery be deterioration? Were that true they or Rossi would have been able to validate the devices by making a new one.
In addition, if Rossi's previous technology suffered deterioration how does that fit with the Penon super-flat graphs of power out vs time over a year? If you believe those, which of course sensible people do not...
Can anybody arrest this idiot ?
This thread is intended as a collective super group therapeutic effort to help all the LENR damaged souls to get rid of overwhelming positive/negative feelings...
I see no other purpose...
This thread is intended as a collective super group therapeutic effort to help all the LENR damaged souls to get rid of overwhelming positive/negative feelings...
I see no other purpose...
I see no purpose at all in this thread. Except when I'm bored and need some entertainment.
So please go on all you SOT, AA, IobseRvable, woodworker, axil, JedR ...
Adrian, Sam and Axil should take their show on the road. There are comedy clubs all over looking for novel acts
He He He
Display MoreAnd we all live happily ever after. Sam12 and AA get to believe the Wizard has the goods (because that's all the proof they need). And us skeptics get the entertainment value of watching the Wizard mesmerize the gullible.
And the moral of the story?
There's a sucker born every minute.
And who needs real power when virtual pseudo-power is so much easier and less expensive to create.
Rossi does have the goods with the QX.
But you are entitled to your interesting opinion.
