Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

  • Another history rewrite alert:

    Axil - the reason that I am posting again is to preserve the facts from whatever you're up to. IH had funded the litigation through trial. Your boy was the one who white-flagged as Darden was to take the stand and begin testimony. Your boy was the one who was sued by members of his legal team for not paying his bills.

    Your boy started the legal fight and was not prepared to finish it.

  • Another history rewrite alert:

    Axil - the reason that I am posting again is to preserve the facts from whatever you're up to. IH had funded the litigation through trial. Your boy was the one who white-flagged as Darden was to take the stand and begin testimony. Your boy was the one who was sued by members of his legal team for not paying his bills.

    Your boy started the legal fight and was not prepared to finish it.


    I think it was never his intention to finish this trial. Still I wonder why you (IH) didn't finish it.

    Reading your statements it is all too clear who would have won...


  • Uh OH! Disappointment alert!

    The Rossi clan have been claiming for some time now that ABB was building the factory robots, was Rossi's partner and going so far to state they were sure ABB was the partner Rossi was surely going to bring the eCat to public commercialization with.


    Oops.... Rossi does one thing really well... he disappoints. Before IH was known, all Rossi stated that his partner was a "large" and "very important" industrial partner. HIs followers eagerly clamored it must be GE at the time. They were sure of it and Rossi did nothing to dispel it. Seimens and others were greatly discussed and yet Rossi did nothing to dispel it. Now ABB is the darling and surely the major industrial partner. Axil went so far to state he was sure of it.


    Oops.... now ABB is a COMPETITOR! Oh those mean, evil corporations! Rossi went to ABB and they are trying to STEAL is "PRECIOUS" IP. Yes, Rossi seems to be addicted to his "precious" IP just like Gollum was to the ring! And EVERY one wants to steal it!


    Axil, looks like you were wrong,.. it is not ABB.

    Most of ECW is wrong, ABB is not the partner.


    Wait.... did not Rossi himself state a while back that ABB was building the robots? Uh oh.... They are now snakes and competitors. Something went wrong!


    Axil stated this time last year that the world was going to be revolutionized and that the QuarkX demo in Stockholm would be proof positive of Rossi's magnificence. (I can look up the actual posts, but no need.) What happened? The Stockholm demo was a complete joke to everyone except AA , Sam12 and Axil.

    Axil, as you stated a little earlier... why do you not ask Alan about the demo, indeed he was there!


    You guys need to get some reality glasses!


    ABB indeed! Alas, another disappointment but the faithful will march on.


    (MIT a competitor! Ha! They will not even allow one of their own professors to hold official LENR classes)

  • And just what the heck does that have to do with you trial analysis/experience. You helped write the technical specifications for a bunch of contracts. Sorry dude, that doesn't make you a contract or transactional lawyer, that makes you the tech guy we called in to explain the technical stuff to the lawyers.


    I'll tell you what -- how about I dig up some current law school exams on basic first year stuff, you know contracts, remedies, torts, civil procedure, agency and criminal law. I will trust that you will spend no more than one hour on any question and that you won't cheat by going online.


    I so look forward to reading your, Sam and AA's new excuses next year for why the fraudster once again failed and why we few, we poor babblers, are still all wrong.

    wood,


    I don’t look forward to new excuses,

    But I am greatly anticipating the capitulation of said trio, that is, if they have the collective cajones to say,

    “I was wrong, Andrea Rossi conned me and I wasn’t smart enough to see thru the conn”


    Then I plan to visit Ecat world and request same from the myriad fools who still believe this tripe.

  • Some more questions and answers.


    TheFutureIsNow

    September 19, 2018 at 5:48 PM


    Dear Andrea Rossi,


    1) By the time of your presentation in January, will your partner have been given the opportunity to independently test an individual SK unit, and, furthermore, will they be allowed to report on such testing?


    2) Is the greater output of the SK predominantly due to an increase in the overall size of the reactor?


    3) After extended use, does erosion of the electrodes take place?


    4) Does your partner currently manufacture gas turbines?


    5) How long do you guess that an SK could operate on a single fuel charge?


    6) Have you performed any tests to determine the quantity of direct electrical output that an SK can produce? What were the results?


    7) At the presentation, since by that time the original powder based systems that you originally launched will be stone age dinosaurs compared to the SK, would you consider providing a short historical account of the trial and error process that led to their creation? I’m speaking of the pre-Lugano systems such as those Focardi tested. The talk could be a tribute to his legacy at the launching of far more enhanced systems. With all the excitement that will be present due to the SK, these early breakthrough systems shouldn’t be forgotten. They far exceeded every LENR device that came before them.

    Andrea Rossi

    September 19, 2018 at 7:00 PM


    TheFutureIsNow

    1- They are allowed to do what they want and they obviously will be able to test the modules installed in their concern

    2- no

    3- no

    4- I cannot answer this question in positive or in negative

    5- 6-12 months

    6- no, we thermalize it

    7- I like this idea.

    Warm Regards,

    A.R.

  • You are proud to be wrong? Proud to insult people when if turns out you were mistaken with your facts? Proud if you failed to recognize one of the great inventions of the century?


    Proud? Sounds like you need to see a shrink.

    Yes, if the evidence proves that I was wrong I will be proud to admit. Unlike you and certain others, I am willing to change my opinion if the circumstances / evidence proves my opinion incorrect and will gladly admit that I was wrong. The ability to recognize and correct one's mistakes is not a sign of mental illness, but a sign of mental health. Of course you can't recognize that. IMHO, the refusal to face reality, i.e., a change in circumstances or the recognition of contrary evidence, is the real mental illness.

  • As in the Rossi/IH case, lawyers charge unconscionable fees and delay things as much as possible until both parties can't take the financial burden anymore and settle out of court.

    What is the basis for the "unconscionable fees" comment. Nobody forces a client in civil litigation to hire expensive lawyers.

  • You must have been trained as one of those money sucking parasites.

    Are you asking if I am a lawyer? If so, the answer, as I have repeatedly posted, is yes, I am a lawyer. I don't consider myself a money sucking parasite, but if calling me that helps you sleep at night, go ahead. I just consider the source.

  • Linky please.

  • It is good to have a dream. Acolytes rarely, rarely, rarely admit that their faith was completely misplaced -- instead there is always an excuse for the failure of the predicted event to come true. Just look at doomsday/rapture/end of world cults that set a date certain for the world to end, the rapture to happen, the economic system to collapse, for mass arrests of whomever is hated at the moment -- when the predicted event doesn't happen there is always an excuse. The evil cabal, the dark powers that be, the deep state, the evil and ruthless competitors, etc. prevented the event from occurring, or it will still occur but be delayed.


    There are always excuses for a failure.

  • It won't be long now, the Quark will power well pumps through the world in backwater villages far and wide and millions of poor people will be able to drink abundant clear water. Rossi will be the reason and uncounted lives will be made better, and the sons of perdition, the purveyors of pain and suffering will have lost another battle.


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    Linky please.


    See the above for one link, there are others but I am not wasting my time!

    Same with AA, he wants to forget his past, bold statements because they show his error. He does not want to rehash the past! He consciously forgets the many disappointments of Rossi and dreams of the future.

  • Are you joking? If you mean that, you should realize that a position that cannot be falsified cannot be considered true or false. It is not scientific.

    Jed, you too need logic for dummies, I don't consider there is enough good evidence to be sure that the E-Cats works or doesn't work yet. There will be in due course.


    Neither am I completely neutral. Unlike you I have not swallowed IH's story whole and increasingly think Rossi has something as more data becomes available. Unlike you, I don;t leap to conclusions nor put words in other's mouths.

  • Jed, you too need logic for dummies, I don't consider there is enough good evidence to be sure that the E-Cats works or doesn't work yet. There will be in due course.


    Neither am I completely neutral. Unlike you I have not swallowed IH's story whole and increasingly think Rossi has something as more data becomes available. Unlike you, I don;t leap to conclusions nor put words in other's mouths.


    Adrian, you have past history doing this, and not answering those who call you out.


    You talked about "the next thing that would prove" implying that something was already proved. I asked you then what evidence you had other than the word of Rossi who is on record (he has admitted it) that he has repeatedly lied about the commercial status, and functional status, of his devices, making claims which he later withdraws.


    Your lack of reply was understandable. There is no evidence except RossiSays. And those, as we've pointed out, are not even consistent.


    You'd be more honest here if you prefaced every post with a disclaimer "the arguments in this post rely on the assumption that all RossiSays are true except those directly self-contradictory (which is quite a number)".

  • I don't consider there is enough good evidence to be sure that the E-Cats works or doesn't work yet. There will be in due course.

    I think the Doral test was definitive, but you have not looked at it, so you would not know. However, you should not say "there is not enough good evidence." You should say "there may be evidence in Rossi's report, but I refuse to look at it." That's an entirely different assertion!

    Neither am I completely neutral.

    These two statements are contradictory. If there is not enough evidence to be sure they work, or don't work, you must remain neutral. How can you make a positive statement either way if there is not enough evidence for either conclusion?


    Unlike you I have not swallowed IH's story whole and increasingly think Rossi has something as more data becomes available.

    I did not read IH's story, and neither did you. I skipped that part of the lawsuit depositions. The only data I have looked at was uploaded by Rossi, to prove his case. It does the opposite. It proves he is a liar and his device could not possibly work. You refuse to look at this data, so you cannot dispute this conclusion. For example, you cannot dispute the fact that the mezzanine heat exchanger did not exist, and that without it, everyone would have died. Even Rossi agreed to the latter, which is why he made up the lie about the invisible heat exchanger.


    Let me repeat: nothing I say is based on "IH's story." It all comes from Rossi.


    Everyone I know who has read the Penon report and Rossi's other statements about his experiments in the depositions agrees that the test did not work and he is a liar. You have not read these things. You refuse to look at the proof that heat exchanger did not exist. You have only read Rossi's blog, which is full of nonsense and lies -- as you would see if you looked at other sources of information from Rossi. Which is why you refuse to look at them.

  • In 2009 AA was defending Richard Weir of EEStor, and annoyed with those who took a skeptical view of Weir's fantastical claims, responding to a skeptic: "I don’t know why you are so down on EEStor." And AA made many additional contentless defenses against reasoned critics of EESTor. In January 2007 EEStor stated in a press release "EEStor, Inc. remains on track to begin shipping production 15 kilowatt-hour Electrical Energy Storage Units (EESU) to ZENN Motor Company in 2007 for use in their electric vehicles." (Wikipedia). Fast forward to 2018: Richard Weir no longer is involved with the company and the company still has no commercial product. When at the time a commenter stated that EEStor appeared to be committing fraud, AA defended them with "It is certainly a funny way of going about fraud. Spending money on the project and not looking for any more investments..." [sound familiar?]. Weir conned Zenn motors into buying 70% of the company. It is still traded publicly in Canada and US, but changed it's name from Zenn Motor Co. back to EEStor and hired some researchers to try to make money from a patent owned by the company - so far, with no success.


    That same year (2009) AA was also defending BLP:, complaining that critics were moving the goalposts by initially claiming the need for "...one independent experiment to validate BLP’s claim.” and moving the goal posts to needing theory. AA, at least, took it on faith that BLP's claims of "excess energy of >30 kWhrs" was well beyond experimental error. [sound familiar?] Today BLP has moved past such pedestrian accomplishments of mere >30KWhrs excess energy, even though a successful replication of those 2009 claims would, if repeatable, almost certainly guarantee that 1) Randall Mills would get the Noble Prize, 2) all energy would be clean, 3) and Axil's clean water pumps would be powerable by BLP and saving hundreds of millions of lives annually. But now it's 2018 and Brilliant Light Power has not just changed their name, they've moved on to even more exciting technology (that nobody can access or replicate [sound familiar?]): the Suncell® which, according the the BLP website is like "Sunlight in a bottle".


    In 2011, AA was writing articles expounding the benefits of Rossi's revolutionary discovery and insulting critics as "uninformed" and "pathological skeptics" [sound familiar?]. He cited NASA testing E-Cats as support, asking why Rossi would give such an organization (NASA) the "opportunity to demonstrate he is a fraud and liar" [sound familiar?]. (Rossi's demo literally nearly blew up some NASA investigators - he was not invited back).


    In 2011 AA was also defending Rossi against carefully reasoned and supported skepticism from Tom Clarke [sound familiar?], who many on this blog know (some more intimately than others).


    For 9 years, AA has provided continuous reflexive scorn for skeptics of free energy scams, with the same babbling and insults, as he imagines himself to have expert engineering insight and simultaneously genuinely believes he is neutral and "unfalsifiable".


    Don't expect AA to stop babbling any time soon...

  • Iggy Dalrymple
    September 19, 2018 at 9:42 PM

    God phoned Satan, “How’s it going down there?”

    Satan, “Thanks for asking, God. It’s going great. We now have an engineer and he has installed central air-conditioning and escalators. It’s much more comfortable here now.”

    God, “Somethings wrong! Engineers are not supposed to go to Hell. Send him back immediately.”

    Satan, “No way, the engineer has brought great improvements to Hell.”

    God, “This is an obvious clerical error. Send him back, or I will sue!”

    Satan, “Yeah right, God, and where do you expect to find a lawyer?”


    Andrea Rossi
    September 20, 2018 at 7:32 AM

    Iggy Dalrymple:

    Ha, Ha, Ha !

    Warm Regards,

    A.R.

  • Jed, you too need logic for dummies, I don't consider there is enough good evidence to be sure that the E-Cats works or doesn't work yet. There will be in due course.


    Neither am I completely neutral. Unlike you I have not swallowed IH's story whole and increasingly think Rossi has something as more data becomes available. Unlike you, I don;t leap to conclusions nor put words in other's mouths.


    Sorry, I just cannot let this one go... "increasingly think Rossi has something as more data becomes available" (emphasis mine)


    A.A. Please provide me ANY data that has become available in the past 12 months about the QuarkX. Any data at all! Or does "Rossi says" count as data to you?


    The Stockholm event? What actual data was there? Please ask A Smith about that demo, he was actually there. However, you refuse to do that because you know what his answer will be.


    What other DATA is there?


    New customer announced? Wait, Rossi has announced at least (3) customers since the trial! But then you want to forget the past do you not.


    QuarkX was 5 sigma certified according to Rossi, (however no evidence to support that claim). What DATA is there that supports the Skat Cat is more reliable?

    Actually AA, can you distinctly tell me what significant advantages the SK has over the QuarkX and what data supports that conclusion?


    Last fall Rossi stated the robotic factories were being built. He even mentioned ABB as the vendor. Now ROSSI has posted that ABB is a competitor. What DATA do you have of any factory, robotic or not, of any employees, facility or anything?


    At one time in the past, (if you care to remember) you stated you had third party information about a factory of Rossi's. A politician if I remember. Care to give us any update or DATA on that?


    Rossi himself posted that he would be in production spring of 2017, that he had a new customer waiting and willing. June of 2017 was to bring new demos and production was to be in a new factory. Do you not remember ANY of that?


    The problem with you AA, is that the only DATA you have is either "Rossi says" or conjectures from his acolytes such as Axil. And ALL of Rossi's proclamations for 7 years have been proven to be deceitful at best or out and out fraud. What DATA do you have that now gives ANY credence?


    As you state... wait and see..... I HAVE personally waited for 7 years on Rossi. 7 years of the same..... lies, deceit and fraud. You want to "forget" all and start anew each day it seems. That is not babble, that is fact and data from verified sources. Your data?