Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

  • Director, your clarification makes it even clearer that Parkhomov's experiment is not a replication, nor have any experimentors replicated Rossi. A replication is not speculating what someone might have done. It is following a protocol and generating equivalent results. Rossi's replication of Steorn's Orbo is a better analogy. The strategy of bilking investors is nearly identical.

  • There are lots of different types of vehicles that transport humans: boats, airplanes, trains, trucks, cars, motorcycles, helicopters, hover craft, gyrocopters, dune buggies, and others. For the sake of this analogy, I'll say that any LENR reaction that primarily utilizes nickel and hydrogen is a specifically a car. However, there are many different types of cars that have many differences. One car can be a blue four door sedan with a puny four cylinder engine while another can be a red four door sports coup with a 500HP engine. But they are both fundamentally cars even though there are differences. Anyone can recognize that they are not airplanes (plasma-electrolysis), boats (palladium-deuterium electrolytic cells), motorcycles (Unified Gravity Corporation's Li-H technology), or trains (BLP's hydrino tech). If someone builds a Ni-H system that produces high power (in the kilowatts like Rossi) and reasonable COP (not something like 1.1 or 1.2 that can be argued about as measurement error) then I might not call it a strict replication, but they did in fact build a car. I'd say Focardi and Piantelli built a car as well long before Rossi came along. After Rossi came along, other teams built nickel-hydrogen systems with smaller proportions of other elements such as lithium. They were also cars. Interestingly, Andrea Rossi built a bunch of different cars that used nickel-hydrogen but with added components and enhanced features. To go through the changes that were made from system to system could take up an entire essay. However, he built enough cars to have a decent used car lot. And, of course, like any used car lot, although most will run half decent for a while and a few are really good diamonds in the rough, there are also a couple lemons. What I'm trying to say here is that even though what Parkhomov has done is not a STRICT replication of a specific system Rossi built, I am not going to be critical and negative if someone calls it a replication.


    The truth is that any powerful Ni-H system is going to be compared to Rossi's E-Cats. I think this is appropriate. The fact some people can't seem to tolerate a positive Ni-H result being compared to Rossi is sickening. I understand why a bunch of people are irritated with him due to his very poor behavior, bad business practices, and manipulations. However, Parkhomov's experiment adds evidence that Ni-H is capable of high powered operation even when poorly optimized. This makes it even more likely that Andrea Rossi's technology did indeed work (even if specific devices may not have operated as he described). This is not a bad thing but a very good thing.

  • Here we go again. The attitude of so many people on this forum is to totally trash and bash Rossi without separating his behavior from his technology. If his technology worked -- and there is more and more evidence that it did -- then comparing the tests of other scientists to the E-Cat is not discrediting anyone. The level of hate seems to be so high on this forum that if by some miracle Andrea Rossi announced a deal with a MAJOR company and their CEO came out with a hundred scientists who had personally verified that a specific version of the E-Cat worked, many users would rather see the technology destroyed than commercialized.

  • I am sure that probably everybody here on this forum will admit to be completely wrong on Rossi and forgive everything he wrote or thought on this “inventor”, if really happens what you claim = he presents a working product with a major industrial partner. I for myself would eat my hat and will vote for him to get the Nobel price in physics.

    But there is simply to much proof of the opposite, we won’t witness such a miracle...

  • Here we go again. The attitude of so many people on this forum is to totally trash and bash Rossi without separating his behavior from his technology. If his technology worked -- and there is more and more evidence that it did -- then comparing the tests of other scientists to the E-Cat is not discrediting anyone. The level of hate seems to be so high on this forum that if by some miracle Andrea Rossi announced a deal with a MAJOR company and their CEO came out with a hundred scientists who had personally verified that a specific version of the E-Cat worked, many users would rather see the technology destroyed than commercialized.


    Director: I understand your sentiment. Perhaps what will help you to understand the others is what I have highlighted in bold above. Most people would say exactly the opposite.

  • There are lots of different types of vehicles that transport humans: boats, airplanes, trains, trucks, cars, motorcycles, helicopters, hover craft, gyrocopters, dune buggies, and others. For the sake of this analogy, I'll say that any LENR reaction that primarily utilizes nickel and hydrogen is a specifically a car. However, there are many different types of cars that have many differences. One car can be a blue four door sedan with a puny four cylinder engine while another can be a red four door sports coup with a 500HP engine. But they are both fundamentally cars even though there are differences. Anyone can recognize that they are not airplanes (plasma-electrolysis), boats (palladium-deuterium electrolytic cells), motorcycles (Unified Gravity Corporation's Li-H technology), or trains (BLP's hydrino tech). If someone builds a Ni-H system that produces high power (in the kilowatts like Rossi) and reasonable COP (not something like 1.1 or 1.2 that can be argued about as measurement error) then I might not call it a strict replication, but they did in fact build a car. I'd say Focardi and Piantelli built a car as well long before Rossi came along. After Rossi came along, other teams built nickel-hydrogen systems with smaller proportions of other elements such as lithium. They were also cars. Interestingly, Andrea Rossi built a bunch of different cars that used nickel-hydrogen but with added components and enhanced features. To go through the changes that were made from system to system could take up an entire essay. However, he built enough cars to have a decent used car lot. And, of course, like any used car lot, although most will run half decent for a while and a few are really good diamonds in the rough, there are also a couple lemons. What I'm trying to say here is that even though what Parkhomov has done is not a STRICT replication of a specific system Rossi built, I am not going to be critical and negative if someone calls it a replication.


    The truth is that any powerful Ni-H system is going to be compared to Rossi's E-Cats. I think this is appropriate. The fact some people can't seem to tolerate a positive Ni-H result being compared to Rossi is sickening. I understand why a bunch of people are irritated with him due to his very poor behavior, bad business practices, and manipulations. However, Parkhomov's experiment adds evidence that Ni-H is capable of high powered operation even when poorly optimized. This makes it even more likely that Andrea Rossi's technology did indeed work (even if specific devices may not have operated as he described). This is not a bad thing but a very good thing.

    Director,


    I would “tolerate” a positive Ni-H result of excess heat if it was replicated by trusted sources, in fact I would welcome and celebrate it.

    However, FYI, moving forward:


    To replicate:

    Use the same bill of materials

    Use the same build instructions

    Use the same testing procedure/protocols

    Get the same results


    There have been many claims of excess heat by many different experimenters, however,

    when pushed, these people cannot even reliably replicate their own experiments let alone train someone else do it.


    As before, this is not politics, religion or philosophy, it is not a high school debate class, it is science, there is an answer,

    it must be found.

  • bash Rossi without separating his behavior from his technology. If his technology worked -- and there is more and more evidence that it did

    Director,


    I hope you would consider looking at two issues from a different point of view:


    1) I do not think anyone here is against LENR. If it comes to fruition, we will all benefit. The claim by many (possibly you) that we are trying to subvert LENR is simply not the case. No more so than me exposing Maddoff as a conman and thief is me stating that all investors are frauds and thieves and that no one should invest money. Most here do not hate Rossi, we simply are not turning a blind eye to the MOUNTAINS of evidence that he is a fraud, liar and deceiver. That he has NEVER presented anything to be working and has often been caught red handed lying and cheating.


    So please reconsider your view about "us" not being able to separate his technology from his behavior. His ONLY "technology" has CAME from his behavior.... frauding and cheating. He has NEVER shown any working technology. Period. Please provide ANY test, demo or data set that has been confirmed as real, not manipulated nor entirely controlled by Rossi. There is none. How can you say his technology works when there has been zero fact that it does. Zero. I beg you give specific reports, published documents or authorized accounts (not Rossi says) that publicly give support. I doubt that even Focardi, like so many others, was simply going off Rossi supplied data.


    2) "there is more and more evidence that it did". Please. If you (or other Rossi supporters) want to be taken seriously, you will have to back these statements up with hard, documented facts. I have followed this saga closely. I have seen ZERO supporting evidence and MOUNTAINS that state Rossi has deceived at every test.

    Do you think the Stockholm "Event" showed anything? If so, please ask Alan Smith to report what it showed. He was there.

    What is this "more and more" evidence you speak of? Parkamov? Parkamov has not been proved by anymeans, and even if he did, he does not have Rossi secrets. Androlcles? Not a Rossi replication and it has not been verified yet either.


    These types of "wishful thinking" logic is what draws such criticism. It is very much like the lottery system in America. I know of several people who play the lottery several times a week. They spend large amounts of money on it, more than they can afford, because they "know" they are going to win. Someone "told" them of a surefire formula to generate the winning numbers. Or they have a "feeling" that they are going to win. The facts are their chances of winning is one in many millions. Wishful thinking will NOT change that.


    Your wishful thinking that Rossi has something will NOT change the fact that he is a liar, fraudster and deceiver. Your logic that we cannot separate his "technology" from his behavior is flawed. His TECHNOLOGY IS HIS DECEIVING and FRAUDULENT METHODS. The Stockholm event is a prime example. He showed NOTHING yet claims high COP and that it was a "Very Convincing Demo". It was not. It actually showed how blatant he is.


    Only those who do not want to see this cannot. They have blinded themselves by their wishful thinking.

  • Director: I understand your sentiment. Perhaps what will help you to understand the others is what I have highlighted in bold above. Most people would say exactly the opposite.


    Exactly. The evidence clearly shows that Rossi has no technology.


    Director , If you were an experienced engineer or research scientist this would be obvious to you. Not because of his fraudulent behavior, but because of his utterly incompetent scientific research behavior and even worse engineering behavior.


    Engineers work overtime to test things, often to the point of breaking them to find their strengths and weaknesses.


    Scientists work overtime to find fault with their theories and design rigorous and repeatable tests that can provide stronger evidence of their hypotheses to their knowledgeable peers.


    Rossi, ever the attention seeker, spends hours daily blogging a lot of inconsistent and self-contradictory fantasies to titillate some slice of his ignorant but hopeful audience, uses shoddy stagecraft to create meaningless demonstrations that provide no evidence to support his extraordinary claims, and gets angry and belligerent when others identify faults with his "reactors" (e.g unfueled reactor with "high COP" by Darden in NC).


    But please provide a description of Rossi's technology that should be recognized on it's own merits independent of Rossi's behavior. This would be helpful in supporting your assertion, as I have not been able to identify any such technology, as an accomplished engineer and research scientist.


    The truth is that any powerful Ni-H system is going to be compared to Rossi's E-Cats.


    I find this assertion to be self-evidently absurd. I am confident that were anyone able to actually devise a powerful Ni-H system, the last thing they would want is to be compared to or associated with Rossi's E-Cats.

  • Director, thank you for your comments on page 241


    As you can see, logic s not a strong point for the babblers. I don’t think they even try. They just use any new post as an excuse to bash Rossi or anyone supporting him. Perhaps it is because they never do anything themselves and have an inferiority complex, that can’t stand the thought of Rossi succeeding.


    Woodworker takes me to task for comparing Rossi with Edison. He completely misses the point that was the importance of his degree. If he has such a problem parsing a paragraph he must have found being a lawyer difficult.


    Roseland67 posts the definition of replication -for the third time. Apparently he thinks if someone dropped an anvil from the Tower of London and measured how long it took to reach the ground, this would not be confirmation of Garibaldi’s experiment. He simply cannot understand that the various experiments showing heat from Ni/H confirm Rossi’s discovery. Just how well his reactors worked ar Doral is far from clear. No wonder to read America has fallen so far behind the rest of the world in education.


    Zorud writes: “I am sure that probably everybody here on this forum will admit to be completely wrong on Rossi and forgive everything he wrote or thought on this “inventor,””

    But why should we forgive those that libeled Rossi so many years and those that halted progress through their disbelief in LENR? Stopping grants and blackballing academics who try to work in the field.?


    The babbler nonsense is endless. They don’t seem to know how industry works and nothing will change until next year with more information.

  • They don’t seem to know how industry works and nothing will change until next year with more information.


    For those not familiar with American baseball, the Chicago cubs went 100+ years before winning a Word Series. For almost 100 years the fans had a famous saying when the Cubs would futilely lose every year..... "Oh well..... there is always next year!" It became a running joke within baseball.


    "wait until next year" has become the Rossi faithful anthem. Every year, "next year" will be the robotic factory. "Next year" the eCat will be commercialized. "Next year" the customer will be identifified. "Next year them darn babblers will see!" ;)


    A.A. You constantly state we do not know how industry works or that our logic is flawed! Unfortunately, you need to look into a mirror.

    I have more recent industry experience and knowledge than you probably ever did, based upon your posts. You are clueless about regulations, corporate liability and your logic of how science works is appalling. Or you simply are arrogant in the face of facts.


    Challenged often, you cannot present any facts other than "Rossi says" to support your claims. When Rossi contradicts himself, you simply "forget" what he says and only spew his current statements. When factual proof of his lying or deceit is provided, you ignore it and turn a blind eye. When challenged, your "I do not want to rehash old history" is laughable. Your "old history" is being made every year! You have already forgotten that Rossi was to be in production this last spring. Yes indeed, wait until next year...…...


    You have NO facts, NO logic and quite clearly NO clue to how real industry / science works. I state this from a person with 30+ years that is STILL in industry.

    It is quite arrogant of you to continually call others with far more education, experience and sound logic than you "babblers".


    You sir, are the biggest babbler on this forum! One year from now, you will still be babbling "wait until next year!", just like the Cub fans did for 100 years!:rolleyes:

  • AA: Woodworker takes me to task for comparing Rossi with Edison. He completely misses the point that was the importance of his degree. If he has such a problem parsing a paragraph he must have found being a lawyer difficult.


    Glad you agree Rossi's BEng equivalent degree (in philosophy) has no relationship to engineering. So where, then, has Rossi shown even the tiniest grain of engineering sense? Edison was a real engineer, no doubt, focussed on making things work. Rossi's only notable focus is in cultivating his blog, and he is on record as making novice-level engineering mistakes time and again. Somehow they are all in the direction of generating false positives in his demos.



    AA: Roseland67 posts the definition of replication -for the third time. Apparently he thinks if someone dropped an anvil from the Tower of London and measured how long it took to reach the ground, this would not be confirmation of Garibaldi’s experiment. He simply cannot understand that the various experiments showing heat from Ni/H confirm Rossi’s discovery.


    MFMP set up shop with the mission of getting definitive evidence of excess heat. They have looked at all these post-Rossi Ni-H claims, and replicated the most promising, as well as their own best effort Rossi-clone. Those experiments have NOT led to evidence of excess heat - if they had, the world would be a different place by now. The comparison is an anvil dropped from the Tower of London that zooms upwards and hits a passing A320. Rossi's talent is in blogging, and extracting money from unwary marks, not engineering.

  • @Roseland67

    For a good experiment, I would prefer that

    - each result is based on two different methods, even if one is rough

    - a replication with a different measurement method would be even better


    as long as all is not understood asking for same results while materials may be different for an unknwn reason, is not honest.


    I'm more convinced by the fact that different teams show that same factors have similar effects.

    A way I am convinced that LENR is real is that some factors seems to have effect (impurities, metal batch), and this does not looks like artifact, but clearly material science.


    a great experiment would be to find what can kill the reaction to show this factors cannot kill an artifact.

  • MFMP set up shop with the mission of getting definitive evidence of excess heat. They have looked at all these post-Rossi Ni-H claims, and replicated the most promising, as well as their own best effort Rossi-clone. Those experiments have NOT led to evidence of excess heat - if they had, the world would be a different place by now. ...


    My main regret with the Dogbone experiments is that MFMP did not take the un-fueled verification test all the way.

    By that I mean after doing the multi-method temperature-emissivity checks, ignoring that info temporarily, doing the Lugano re-iterative IR method, using the total emissivity for the Optris as done in Lugano (Bob H made a great table of the values), calculating the apparent COP using the same heat calculations as in the Lugano report, use the known measured input power, and calculating the apparent COP using the Lugano methodology as closely as possible. That would have laid that episode to rest much more completely than leaving it for the crowd to fuss over for months (years) after.

  • All LENR effects have been historically small,

    Except for the ones which were big, such as 20 to 100 W reactions, some of them continuing for months. You claim they don't exist but that does not actually make them not exist.


    "Big" is a relative term. They were big in the sense that they were easy to measure and irrefutable, and they produced thousands of times more energy than the biggest plasma fusion reaction on record, albeit less power. "Irrefutable" in the sense that no actual scientific arguments have been made to refute them, but only hand-waving and impossible physics.

  • Alain,


    I guess in Roseland67 world, if you don’t get the same results, you haven’t replicated anything, all you’ve done is another experiment and gotten different results.


    It is science, there is an answer why you didn’t get the same results, it is up to science to find out why.


    Continue experimenting, continue eliminating all of the variables until you do get the same results, time and time again.

    Then the theory of what is happening can begin to shape additional experimenting to improve in the results.

  • Adrian,


    All of the anvils would make a loud noise & leave a big hole in the ground, (read ALL).


    Not ALL of the Ni-H experiments result in excess heat do they? (Why not)?

    In fact the overwhelming majority of them do not and never have.

    In the very rare odd case, a Ni-H experiment does result in some amount of excess heat, but when run exactly the same again, there is no hole in the ground, again why?

    Because something in the experiment changed, it is up to the experimenter to find out what, and so far, nada

  • I Bet it's from cleaning it before loading, Try a drop of blood on the tip ,then load, Many interesting ingredients in there no one really think's about.

  • It is hard to believe an anonymous blogger, with no hard evidence, but do tell us your experience.


    LOL! Anonymous blogger? Who are you but a picture of some guy and a name?


    By real name IS Bob. It appears that you have not checked my profile. It has as much information as yours does!


    I have worked in R&D, automotive field. Concentrating on FEA, stress and life cycle testing.

    I have worked in manufacturing management with engineering, production, quality control, purchasing and safety all reporting

    to me. This for structural products that ranged from bridges to commercial, cable stayed buildings.

    I have had complete responsibility over the start up of new factories from the initial shovel of dirt to production.

    I have put many products through UL certification in the US and some products through various EU standards in Europe.


    I am not a physicist, chemist nor nuclear engineer and do not claim to be. Over the years, I have established, by the success of

    multiple business ventures and corporate management positions, that I have a good sense of logic.


    However, I judge you by YOUR POSTS and statements. Regardless of your background, your current positions speak volumes!


    It is hard to believe you because of what you say, not who you were some many years ago! One cannot believe Rossi because of

    what he DOES and what he SAYS. You however, believe him regardless.


    Response?:/

  • "One cannot believe Rossi because of what he DOES and what he SAYS."


    The term "believe Rossi" is incredibly vague and intentionally used to bash not only his lies and manipulations but to try and discredit the idea that he ever had any technology that worked. I think the correct approach is to look carefully at what has transpired so far in the PROPER CONTEXT of the history of LENR and separate the wheat from chaff.


    Rossi is a manipulator and often a liar. That does not mean he is a manipulator and a liar about EVERYTHING. We know he has mislead us about many issues, and we should be extremely weary about any claims he makes about a potential partner, specific performance ratings of various E-Cat models, future goals he is working towards, and a host of other issues. No one should take his word as gospel truth; conversely, it should be carefully scrutinized. But when it comes to the idea of "believing" Rossi has built systems that have worked (even if he exaggerated or mislead parties about results of specific demonstrations) there is plenty of reason to do so. Piantelli and Focardi established that Ni-H -- even without hardly any optimization -- is a rock solid reality. What we know about the design of Rossi's earliest systems is that it included multiple additional features that should boost the output dramatically. I've went through these a dozen times on this forum so I won't write them out. But simply put, it makes sense that they worked. Now, in the light of Parkhomov's repeated successes with Ni-H reactors, it seems even more certain that some of Rossi's reactors worked to some degree at least some of the time. The strange radiation connection even helps explain more of the changes Rossi made to the various evolutions of the E-Cat! Again, I've explained these before so I won't list them here.


    At the same time, there's a lot of reason not to be overly optimistic about Rossi every being able to broadly commercialize his technology. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I think inventors syndrome will get in the way. I don't doubt he'll be able to build a few plants over a period of years and sell the power they produce to select clients that won't want to publicly say anything about their connection to him due to the Doral fiasco. But unless he's willing to share his know how without holding back with a top notch company that would have the resources and financial clout to build his mega-factory churning out a gazillion reactors a year, progress will likely be dreadfully slow.


    The good news is that Rossi's going to be irrelevant for the most part in the not too distant future if Parkhomov and the Russian's continue down the path they're going. With a few modifications Parkhomov's Ni-H reactor could be optimized dramatically, operate in self sustain mode, and inspire countless replications -- which is what will be required for the mainstream world to take notice.

  • Bob,


    As much as I can appreciate your guns blazing at some of the dim witted here, my dad always told me, “Son, never argue with idiots, they’ll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience”.

  • Roseland,


    That comment belongs in the trash bin more so than any other I have read.


    Andrea Rossi is very relevant in today's world and the discussion of LENR. Granted, due to his past behavior and inventors syndrome resulting in a possibly low chance of finding the type of partner he needs to massively commercialize his technology, there are other researchers that could very well be more relevant -- like Alexander Parkhomov. However, Andrea Rossi is literally part of the chain of inventors that started with Ni-H and moved forward optimizing the combination. Trying to avoid speaking about him is ridiculous. He's a part of history -- both good (the work he did with Ni-H) and bad (the whole Doral fiasco, the lies he has told, the ways he has manipulated the LENR community, etc). Anyone who wants his very mixed legacy to simply vanish is as bad as people who wish to tear down monuments about parts of history, religions icons, or political figures they don't like.

  • Roseland,


    That comment belongs in the trash bin more so than any other I have read.


    Andrea Rossi is very relevant in today's world and the discussion of LENR. Granted, due to his past behavior and inventors syndrome resulting in a possibly low chance of finding the type of partner he needs to massively commercialize his technology, there are other researchers that could very well be more relevant -- like Alexander Parkhomov. However, Andrea Rossi is literally part of the chain of inventors that started with Ni-H and moved forward optimizing the combination. Trying to avoid speaking about him is ridiculous. He's a part of history -- both good (the work he did with Ni-H) and bad (the whole Doral fiasco, the lies he has told, the ways he has manipulated the LENR community, etc). Anyone who wants his very mixed legacy to simply vanish is as bad as people who wish to tear down monuments about parts of history, religions icons, or political figures they don't like.

    director,


    I don’t want him to vanish, I NEVER said that, but I do want him to stop lying and at least one time during these Bulls,,,,,it test/demo whatever, have someone do proper energy in and energy out testing.

    If Rossi does not allow that, then, yes, my original statement stands.

  • -- is a rock solid reality. What we know about the design of Rossi's earliest systems is that it included multiple additional features that should boost the output dramatically.

    Director,

    This is what pro-Rossi people need to realize and wake up to. (In my opinion) "Rock solid" and "we know...included multiple features" is all wishful thinking! You wish this to be the case, but it is not.


    If Focardi/Piantelli was "Rock Solid", we would have several replications by now and most likely commercial devices on the market. The fact is that we do not!

    Their evidence / data / test might be intriguing or even positive, but hardly rock solid. Rock solid would mean they could heat up at will. They could be able to demonstrate at any time, any place. They cannot. Even F&P did not have "rock solid" reactors. Some seemed to work and others did not. Even THEY could not produce at will. If they could, our world would be changed.


    So point number one I believe you need to consider..... we have no "Rock Solid" LENR reactors/processes anywhere. (That has been demonstrated at least) Period. We have no reactors that even the original inventor can reproduce at will. Especially not Rossi. This is not to discredit researchers, it is simply a fact.

    You seem to have wishful thinking that this is true, but it simply is not. Some have the conspiracy theory that "Big business" is keeping a lid on all this! This is silly. Big business would be exploiting it and making billions! What I find as a conspiracy theory, is that all these inventors do not reveal their secrets due to "inventor's syndrome". We do not have established, "rock solid" LENR reactors yet because no one has been able to build one yet! Period. This is what the facts state. You seem to think otherwise, however if that was true, they WOULD be sold at Home Depot by now! (A bit of sarcasm here)


    Point number two... "what we know about the design of Rossi's" is NOTHING. If they worked, he would have demonstrated it. The BS about keeping his competitors in the dark is simply complete BS. There are no competitors. Please name any. Magicsound? No. Bob HIggins? No MFMP? No. How about IH? IH was HIS partner and paid him millions. He still defrauded them! If he had a working reactor, he would be a billionaire by now.

    Rossi has never had anything because he keeps moving from one fraud to the next. Some think he is "improving" and only wants to commercialize "the best" That the "customers" are demanding the new iteration. We know there are no customers. There are no new working reactors. That is what we know. Your statement of "what we know" is in complete error. Exactly what "new features" specifically has Rossi implemented? The "Mouse"? It is just a word. No one has a clue as to what he means. How about stability features? What has he implemented? He states he had "Sigma 5" for the Quarkx. Sigma 5 on what? He would never say because it is BS. Yet after stating he achieved "Sigma 5" he moves on to the new model which is supposed to be MORE stable. More than Sigma 5? Really?


    You have lots of wishful thinking, but no solid facts to back it up. Like AA, you believe "Rossi says" as if he were trustworthy. He is not.

    Supporting and discussing legitimate researchers such as Bob H., Magicsound, Letts, etc. is both informative and helpful to the LENR process.

    Promoting Rossi is like promoting Maddof in investment circles. You will only discredit the field.


    I was a Rossi supporter back in 2011-012 time frame. It soon became very apparent that he was nothing but a fraudster. Unfortunately.


    I wish there was functioning LENR reactors

  • Director,


    It is hard to keep a straight face when discussing Rossi. When I try to be serious, I can not help but think about Doral, and that Stockholm video of his positioning himself to block Lewan's view, then lifting the cover of the PSU and fiddling with switches. All the while with Fabiani blocking audience view on the other end of the table. Then I just lose it...sorry.


    But what you say is true, in that he may have a little something. Who knows, maybe even something big? I think Ascoli did a good job of destroying the credibility of his early work, but there is always Ferrara. Lugano may have even been a small COP as MFMP, Higgins, and now LDM have shown. Then the court documents had some interesting parts to it, that a Rossi fan could latch onto and build a case...maybe.


    We shall see what comes this Jan with the Ecat SK demo. If another obvious sham, then I will know for sure. Hard to believe he would try something tricky again, with so many of us on hyper scam watch. But then again, I could never have imagined he would try something like he did at Doral and expect to get away with it. He is brazen, that is for sure.


    He is a fun guy to have around no matter; whether to laugh at, or hold out hope for. I mostly laugh, but I do hope he has something.