# Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

• It will matter if new science is generated, even if it cannot be used as an energy source right away. The goal of alchemy research was not purely energy generation.

PHD,

Sure it will matter but not in the context of this entire blog and that is excess heat

And energy generation

• Indeed. Do you suppose those wall-to-ceiling pipes are the ones in the bottom of the third photo (Photo 4) below?

From Smith's Supplemental Report:

The bottom photo is of the serpentine pipes inside the black shipping container at the Doral site. It think that these pipes are smaller in diameter than wall-to-ceiling ones. So not the same.

• You forgot excess heat...

• I do not know if you are interested anymore, but Gale thinks the Stockholm video was convincing. By her name, I would guess she is American, who flunked English class. :

1. Gale October 11, 2018 at 4:10 AM

Dr Andrea Rossi,

I found on “youtube Ecat QX demonstration in Stockholm” the demo you made with the Ecat QX, which is very well done and convincing. Did that Ecat QX we can see in the video have an evolution? If yes, can you explain?

Cheers

Gale

• Andrea Rossi October 9, 2018 at 11:10 AM

Davide:

If the temperature is in the order of electronvolts the sole possible way is to use spectrometry , make T= 2900/Lambda,to get the T in K.

Then use the equation of Boltzmann: T ( Celsius )^4 * Sigma * S (m^2) * Epsilon. This method is based on constants, therefore is very precise, not depending on conventional measuring systems. It depends only on numbers and there is not margin of errors due to phenomenological effects like, for example, efficiency, heat loss, etc.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Surely he means the Stefan-Boltzmann law not the Boltzmann equation.

Of course (and he should know by now), T is in K, not Celsius

• This method is based on constants, therefore is very precise.

Rossi on why his totally flawed "assume black body" power measurements are so good.

• Rossi you magnificent 'cat' I have caught your mouse

• There have been a series of posts much like this which have the following factors in common

- they are in slightly fractured English

- the correspondent almost always goes by a single first name and this is their only post

- the correspondent reports that they are "convinced" about the Stockholm demo or find it "convincing"

- the correspondent doesn't just refer to the "Stockholm" demo, they often call it the "IVA" Stockholm demo

- the correspondents often wish Rossi "Godspeed" at the end

If you go to JNOP or the Rossi Blog Reader and search by the keywords quoted in any of these last 3 points you will be able to see a whole collection of these posts stretching back over almost a year. There are about 7-8 of them per month.

Most entertainingly, by analyzing the times at which posts are timestamped on JNOP I have found that when Rossi's sleep/wake pattern changes (as, for instance, when he travels to Europe) the sleep/wake cycles of the "convinced" change in the same way!

I have been assembling evidence for all this. It is not finished yet but I will post it when I am done.

• Bruce__H funny I was trying to count how many time 'convincing' was used and then compare it to synonyms with respect to the ranking of most frequently used words.

Definitely 'convincing' is most often used on jonp but on the other hand what would be a good synonym to use instead?

• Bruce,

Well, Rossi has always been his own best Sock Puppet

• ... funny I was trying to count how many time 'convincing' was used and then compare it to synonyms with respect to the ranking of most frequently used words.

Definitely 'convincing' is most often used on jonp but on the other hand what would be a good synonym to use instead?

I can see that "convincing" or "convinced" would tend to come up in such conversations but not "IVA" or "Godspeed". These are unusual. terms and yet they frequently occur with mention of being convinced.

The "IVA" is the conference centre at which the November 2017 demo was held (https://ivakonferens.se/en/). I'm not sure how someone who casually stumbles on a video of the demo would know this. It isn't mentioned on any of the sites where the video is available.

• Rossi you magnificent 'cat' I have caught your mouse

Congratulations for re-discovering a calibrated resistance wire heater element.

• Congratulations for re-discovering a calibrated resistance wire heater element.

Did Rossi calibrate? I don't recall he ever did.

• Did Rossi calibrate? I don't recall he ever did.

Technically, all wire is resistance wire. (OK, not superconductor wire)

Calibrated resistance wire has a specific resistance per unit length, diameter, and temperature.

• Oh, you mean the wire is calibrated before sale to meet a certain standard. I thought you meant Rossi calibrated it. He is allergic to calibration.

• Oh, you mean the wire is calibrated before sale to meet a certain standard. I thought you meant Rossi calibrated it. He is allergic to calibration.

Rossi may have chopped off wire to specific lengths for his "reactors"... Or not. There is one description that shows that maybe not after all:

(These may have been off-the-shelf heater elements, however)

"The third component is a set of two 220 V resistors, total weight 2292.8 g; resistance values

measured at the start of the test are 11.8 and 12.2 Ω. In parallel the recorded value was 6 Ω. Resistors were powered in parallel."

- Penon 2012, High Temperature Energy Catalyzer Test, page 5

• Once you have your eye in, it is easy to identify some of the posts on JONP that are definitely just Rossi writing to himself (as outlined in this post Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion).

Here is a cracker that shows off Rossi's tender side ...

March 25, 2018 at 3:26 PM

Dear Andrea:

I watched the whole 3 hours video of your convincing demonstration with the Ecat QX at the IVA of Stockholm on November 24th.

I notice your body language: you appear shy, humble, most of time keeping low your head, while saying things of momentous importance and giving a strong demo in front of one of the highest scientific echelons of the world: this all has been born after more than twenty years of hard work of studies and experiments that made you the undisputed number 1 of the world in this sector.

What a contrast between what you are and what you are doing and the shy attitude you show.

Dawn

Then Rossi answers himself ... sweetly, humbly ...

March 25, 2018 at 3:55 PM

Dawn:

I am always aware of all the difficulties of this work and of how thin is the space between success and failure in this field at this stage. Our job is very, very, very difficult. Sometime I have the sensation that the more I study, the less I know. At the IVA of Stockholm I was terrorized by the possibility that something could go wrong.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

• At the IVA of Stockholm I was terrorized by the possibility thatsomething could go wrong.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

Yes, and this after he claims to have achieved "sigma 5"! Although he never has stated what he supposedly achieved "sigma 5" on or even what it is!

Most on ECW chimed that it was reliability. Well, if he actually did achieve "sigma 5" on reliability, why would he ever be "Terrorized" that something would go wrong?

His device would have been 99.99999% reliable!

Also, his audience was hand picked loyalist as well. No one there was going to utter one word in critique or scientific assessment of him or the demo! And they HAVE not done so have they? (As we all here know too well! )

• Too bad he couldn't manage a sigma 1 result on the spectrometer in Stockholm...

What an incredibly dissuasive demonstration at the IVA convention center !!

The Secretary to the Academy, Executive Vice President of the IVA, said:

"

IVA would like to announce that the Academy does not support the messages conveyed at the conference at IVA Conference Centre on 24 November 2017 attended by,

among others, Andrea Rossi."

and

"

In this case IVA would like to clearly state that the Academy does not in any way support the

messages conveyed at the conference in question."

• Interesting twist to that story few know about. Wish I could say more, but alas, I can not.

• Rossi you magnificent 'cat' I have caught your mouse

My hopes rest with your efforts Russ. Please let us know when you intend to release your product to the public.

• I'll say more.

I think the basic design of the Quark is very simple.

Two nickel 212 or 211 electrodes (alloys that have a small percentage of Mn) that have probably been "treated" in some manner to clean the surface and remove trapped gases. From one picture that is in the Gullstrom Rossi paper, at least one of the electrodes may be hollow. Another witness observed that the electrodes were smooth and rounded on the ends.

A combination of a very small quantity of LiAlH4, LiH, or other similar metal hydride with a "hot proton" inducing element such as argon, neon, and perhaps even a small piece of strontium to be vaporized within the quartz tube. A pulsed arc discharge is established with a pulse of higher voltage. Immediately, due to the "hot hydrogen" produced and LENR reactions taking place, the voltage required to maintain the plasma can be reduced down to a very low level. A control box is required so as to control the current. If magnets are utilized on either side of the Quark to produce a magnetic mirror effect, they may have to be adjusted.

• Rossi has replied to all my comments on

his blog except one.

Curious to know if you have sent comments

to his blog.

• Yes, and this after he claims to have achieved "sigma 5"! Although he never has stated what he supposedly achieved "sigma 5" on or even what it is!

Most on ECW chimed that it was reliability. Well, if he actually did achieve "sigma 5" on reliability, why would he ever be "Terrorized" that something would go wrong?

His device would have been 99.99999% reliable!

Also, his audience was hand picked loyalist as well. No one there was going to utter one word in critique or scientific assessment of him or the demo! And they HAVE not done so have they? (As we all here know too well! )

He would be nervous because of the invited

guests.Like you had a speech down pat in

front of mirror but in front of a crowd you

get toung tied.

• My hopes rest with your efforts Russ. Please let us know when you intend to release your product to the public.

We don't actually have a product. What we have is some remarkably active fuel that manages to be both complex in nature and heretical in performance. We have many experiments before us for sure.

• Curious to know if you have sent comments

to his blog.

No. I haven't.

• My hopes rest with your efforts Russ. Please let us know when you intend to release your product to the public.

Releasing products to the public is neither necessary nor (in the real non-Rossi world) possible quickly. A real LENR reactor with associated strange radiation would need to be carefully tested and understood scientifically before anyone is going to allow it as a product.

Luckily there are many reputable organisations (particularly NASA) who have shown an interest in testing genuine novel energy production devices. Such testing can be done easily. Anything even remotely commercial (with say double power out that goes in, and lifetime > 1 week) can be black-box tested in a fool-proof way, without the additional problems of reliability, safety, etc.

The fact that this has never happened is simply because no such energy production device has ever been existed.

• The fact that this has never happened is simply because no such energy production device has ever been existed.

You are entitled to your own opinions, of course. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

• You are entitled to your own opinions, of course. But you are not entitled to your own facts.

True enough Alan.

That was not a fact, it was an inference. And I'm entitled to my own inferences, just as you are. And, unlike you in the past over Rossi, I'm happy to lay out all of my reasons for this inference.

The logic is: if such a device existed it would be a big deal both scientifically and commercially, anyone even remotely self-interested (or altruistic) would exploit this one way or the other (or both).

You perhaps hope that you + others have or will have such a device: I hope that too. But I've seen no evidence of it as yet. I have a good memory for anomalous things that turn out in fact not to be that.

In this case the long history of people in your position who did in fat not have such a device means caution in inference is more likely true than revolutionary new discovery.

THH