Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

Quote from seven_of_twenty

Your post suggested that the exposure was so great that it could easily have been fatal if it had been continued.

That is what Celani said. It was not speculation on my part.

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You implied that because the radiation was not continued, it had no adverse effects. It doesn't work like that.

Of course it works like that. Otherwise medical x-rays and cosmic rays would kill us. Medical x-rays are mostly harmless because they stop. When x-rays were just discovered, doctors accidentally killed a patient with them by overexposing him.

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Of course it works like that. Otherwise medical x-rays and cosmic rays would kill us. Medical x-rays are mostly harmless because they stop. When x-rays were just discovered, doctors accidentally killed a patient with them by overexposing him

Semantics. You implied the spectators to Rossi's scam were nearly killed. That's nonsense. Scientifically, the issue is the dose received usually expressed in standard units: https://hps.org/publicinformat…/faqs/radiationdoses.html

You implied a brief burst at a high rate. That would require a powerful source. Since it is clear that Rossi has never provided a working anything, much less a reactor, the only possible source for an intense burst of gamma would have been an intensely radioactive substance. Or some issue with the instruments. I am not aware of the alleged second experiment which supposedly created radiation. My argument is that there is no way Rossi could shield such a potent source of gamma radiation enough to bring it into the lecture room (or wherever this was done) safely shielded and then arrange a brief burst without someone seeing some part of the apparatus for this.

Thanks for helping me express it better. It is really important in these discussions to remember that Rossi has never shown power out/power in >1 in any credible and reliable way ever. What you're looking for is tricks and subterfuges.

Sometimes its more enjoyable chancing nothing then having nothing at all to do. Saying nothing has its values too.

Quote from seven_of_twenty

Semantics. You implied the spectators to Rossi's scam were nearly killed.

I did not "imply" any such thing. I reported what Celani said.

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You implied a brief burst at a high rate. That would require a powerful source. Since it is clear that Rossi has never provided a working anything, much less a reactor, the only possible source for an intense burst of gamma would have been an intensely radioactive substance.

Again, I implied nothing. That is what Celani said. You can ask him for details if you like. Or, I have an old message from him which I will post here if you are interested -- but only if you agree to stop making angry accusations against me for reporting this. Don't shoot the messenger because you don't want to hear the message.

Both meters pegged, so it must have been a powerful source. If that is true, and not an instrument error, and if the source was the reactor, then clearly Rossi did have a working something. I don't know what he had, but you can't fool two radiation meters. Also, the first Levi report seems to indicate he had something. We know he did not interfere with that test because it was under surveillance with a video camera the whole time, as noted in the report. They should have done that with the Lugano test as well.

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It is really important in these discussions to remember that Rossi has never shown power out/power in >1 in any credible and reliable way ever.

I disagree. I find the first Levi report credible. Perhaps you do not. Can you point to significant technical errors in it? There are weakness, of course, but can you show it was definitely wrong? If you cannot, I do not think you can say there has never been credible evidence for Rossi's claims. The claims have not been replicated so we cannot have confidence in them, but there was credible evidence for them. In my opinion, Lugano greatly reduced that credibility, by showing that Levi is incompetent.

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You have NO hint, let alone proof that a factory is not being built.

Bertrand Russell is spinning in his grave...

A factory where parts and pieces are assembled that are able to produce gamma rays (Rossisays: "gammas are thermalized within the reactor") cannot exist without a strict approval and control by authorities. Either there are no gammas (aka Rossi lied again), or Rossi is ignoring the relevant industrial guidelines and violating laws on ho to deal with equipment that is able to produce ionizing radiation. If he follows these guidelines then it should be easy to locate his new modern robotic factory somewhere in Florida, since building, registering and operating such a business must leave tracks.

No way that he has a factory to produce "LENR" products, that are linked with radiation and no one else knows...

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If he follows these guidelines then it should be easy to locate his new modern robotic factory somewhere in Florida, since building, registering and operating such a business must leave tracks.

No way that he has a factory to produce "LENR" products, that are linked with radiation and no one else knows...

These days, you cannot even set up a store to sell cupcakes without leaving tracks. This is the 21st century. Registrations and business licenses are on the internet. We live in glass houses.

This is for the record-no response from AR to two e-mails so far-so I'm just wasting my time and he is probably just wasting ours. Worth a go at a yes or no answer if nobody has ever been dumb enough to ask this before........I give up!

Why not collect money and find donators and setup a fake company that is eagerly looking for saving some $$$ by using 20% cheaper heat from a black box?

We may have a chance to get our hands on the biggest thing since sliced bread and finally find out what’s behind the curtain....

I am sure the entire scientific world will watch the convincing video on January 31, 2019. What masterpiece we will see?