Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

Sounds good.

Bitcoin only, thanks.

Quote from zorud

sam12 - since you are allowed to post on Rossi's blog and also get answers, maybe you can reach out to him what his opinion is on the process of operating and controlling his installed SK plants (e.g. the one from which he will live stream on Jan 31st) via internet in case there is no electricity (maybe not even a GSM/LTE network) because of power fails, cyber attacks, natural desasters etc... ?

Quote from zorud

Posted the Question on Rossi blog.

A.R. Is at the plant now.

1. Frank Acland November 28, 2018 at 3:50 PM

   Dear Andrea,

   Winter has come early to the US Midwest!

   I am looking forward to you saying this: “We have an application on course wherein the SK heats the air in the HOUSE”. A 20 % discount to my home heating bill would be a nice start!

   Cool regards,

   Frank Acland

2. Andrea Rossi November 28, 2018 at 4:11 PM

   Frank Acland:

   This is probably what I will show on January 31. It will not be a house, will be the factory of a client of us, where I am now and we have 3 Celsius degrees below zero outside and a caressing +25 C degrees inside. First day of work today.

   Warm Regards,

   A.R.

Quote from Director

I think we should all address Rossi's claimed new customer as JM Products (his own company that produces nothing) until he provides proof otherwise. After what happened in Doral, he is insulting every last one of us if he does not identify his customer and have a representative from them confirm they are doing business with him.

So until there is proof otherwise, Rossi's only customer is JM Products, as far as I'm concerned.

Usually I'm not this cynical. However, he manipulated the entire LENR community and IH by trying to make us believe that the customer was some sort of subsidiary of Johnson Matthey when there was no relationship whatsoever. We cannot let him trick us again.

Well,

I’m not sure if he manipulated the “entire LENR community”, but he certainly bamboozled a lot of hopeful people.

Quote from DnG

signing the non disclosure turns on them, they then become the proof of... and can not deny without lawsuit.

Trap step 4

IMHO, NDA/s, Confidentiality Agreements, etc. are generally much more impressive to non-lawyers than they are to lawyers. Cease and desist letters are cheap to write and, unfortunately, they scare a lot of people off. It seems that most non-lawyers are fairly easily scared off. And threatening a lawsuit is much cheaper than filing and prosecuting one.

Competent counsel is usually much less impressed. A classic example of this is found, and most eloquently expressed, in Arkell v. Pressdram (google it).

And based on what I have seen of Rossi's contractual agreements, competent counsel should chew him up. (if the lawyers who represented IH in the negotiations with Rossi feel that I have insulted their work -- they are correct).

Quote from Shane D.

I sure do not see any signs of Rossi backing off. If anything he seems to be pushing faster, and harder on everything. He has named some names, and I have no doubt Gullstrom flew there as he claimed, or that he has an anonymous Japanese prof working with him. I wonder how he is getting around all the regulatory, certification, radiation hazard issues raised here?

His confidence level seems very high also.

A few years ago there was an evangelist in Southern California, Harold Camping. who predicted the date and time that the Rapture would occur. Camping had predicted different dates and times over the years and each time he dismissed any doubting questions by simply explaining that he was right and anyone who doubted him was wrong. The predicted dates and times all passed without such event occurring, but Camping always was extremely confident.

Zorud

A.R. replied to the question you

asked me to post but said he was

not sure if he understood it properly.

To be honest I was not sure if I understood the question either.

1. Sam November 28, 2018 at 4:43 PM

   Hello Dr Rossi

   Can you comment on this question?

   What is your opinion on the process of operating and controlling the installed SK plants (e.g. the one from which you will live stream on Jan 31st) via internet in case there is no electricity (maybe not even a GSM/LTE network) because of power fails, cyber attacks, natural desasters etc… ?

   Regards

   Sam

2. Andrea Rossi November 28, 2018 at 8:59 PM

   Sam:

   That’s what we are doing, if I have understood your comment properly.

   Warm Regards,

   A.R.

Yawwwwwwn! Somebody please wake me up if Rossi does or claims something not similar or identical to sh*t he has done or claimed at least three times since 2011 and which got nowhere.

Quote from seven_of_twenty

Yawwwwwwn! Somebody please wake me up if Rossi does or claims something not similar or identical to sh*t he has done or claimed at least three times since 2011 and which got nowhere.

January 31 2019 at 9am

I wonder why Rossi is waiting until end of January with his world premiere SK live stream....

His new toy is already nicely working and heating up an unknown factory outside Florida somewhere in the cold US...

1. Frank Acland November 29, 2018 at 6:55 AM

   Dear Andrea,

   Is the 25 degrees inside the factory where you say you are now working, currently being provided by an E-Cat SK?

   Warm regards,

   Frank Acland

2. Translate Andrea Rossi November 29, 2018 at 8:02 AM

   Frank Acland:

   Yes.

   Warm Regards,

   A.R.

Quote from zorud

I wonder why Rossi is waiting until end of January with his world premiere SK live stream....

His new toy is already nicely working and heating up an unknown factory outside Florida somewhere in the cold US...

A.R. said December was to hectic to make the S.K presentation and when things settled down in the new year was a better time.

Quote from Shane D.

It is 25F in Chicago now. Rossi told the Florida professional regulators he has business activity in California, and Illinois. One of his sockpuppets saw him at O'Hare airport on his way to see a client. Acland said we would be surprised where the demo was going to be.

So there...Chicago it is. Sherlock Holmes would be so proud of me!

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Shane,

Weather stinks here,

we could use all of the heat possible

Director adds a new wrinkle to the entertaining Rossi circus. We now have someone who is completely aware that Rossi is an unmitigated and rather clumsy con man, and yet is quite confident that the e-cat actually works. Talk about cognitive dissonance!

Quote from interested observer

Director adds a new wrinkle to the entertaining Rossi circus. We now have someone who is completely aware that Rossi is an unmitigated and rather clumsy con man, and yet is quite confident that the e-cat actually works.

Who do you mean? I suppose Director's latest comment implies he does not think it works.

Quote from JedRothwell

Who do you mean? I suppose Director's latest comment implies he does not think it works.

I am talking about Director. He is busy claiming that all of Rossi’s demos are meaningless shams yet he also is busy encouraging people to replicate the QX. Based on that and his other comments, there is no question that he is quite convinced that the e-cat works. So his position is apparently that despite the fact that Rossi is a fraudster, his invention is real. Fascinating!

Quote from interested observer

I am talking about Director. He is busy claiming that all of Rossi’s demos are meaningless shams yet he also is busy encouraging people to replicate the QX. Based on that and his other comments, there is no question that he is quite convinced that the e-cat works.

He just now wrote:

"I want a rep from the customer to go on camera, give the identity of the company, give his identity, and state that they are paying x amount of dollars for x amount of heat. If he cannot provide that then the whole presentation is worthless."

To me, that does not sound like someone who is "quite convinced."

Perhaps he said other things that give you the impression he is convinced.

The other day I described Celani's finding as "credible evidence" that Rossi may have something. I believe it was you took who that to mean I am quite convinced. That's not the case. Many claims with credible evidence turn out to be wong. I think your perception of other people's opinions needs calibration. Just because someone thinks it is worth trying to replicate a claim, or thinks there is credible evidence, that does not mean the person is "quite convinced." In my case it means I think there is a slight chance some of the claims are true.

(I disagree with Director. I don't see how it can be worth a replication attempt, because we know nothing about what's inside the gadget. Also because it is probably fake. Even if Rossi were 100% believable, there is still no way to replicate.)

Jes, it was not me who said anything about your opinion of Celani. But I do agree with you entirely about replicating Rossi regardless of whether he has anything worth replicating. People trying to do it obviously don’t understand the concept of replication.