Rossi-Blog Comment Discussion

Quote from Paradigmnoia

• Andrea Rossi March 23, 2012 at 8:13 PM

  Dear Philippe George:

  I want also to add that:

  1- the robotized line to produce the E-Cats is already in production

  2- the programs of the robots will be adjusted as soon as we will have the requirements from the certificators

  3- we already got the green light from all the competent Authorities, so far the certifications are in course.

  Warm Regards,

  A.R.

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OK AA, let me try to help you parse this post by Rossi to twist it into your predetermined conclusion that Rossi is not a liar.

1- the robotized line to produce the E-Cats is already in production

Even though Rossi claimed that he had a final production-ready product in 2011, a robotized line in production in 2012 AND a product undergoing certification in 2012, and even though AA commented at the time that not having said product would be evidence that Rossi is a liar, AA can counter by babbling in his snarky way that making this observation merely points out the "extreme ignorance of engineering and manufacturing" of the observer. Then follow with "It would never occur to you [walllowing ignoramous] that the facts on the ground might change his plans." See? Simple. So there.

2- the programs of the robots will be adjusted as soon as we will have the requirements from the certificators

Here we have even more support for the "change of plans" meme. Because Rossi, the engineering genius (who has stated unequivocally to the Florida Board of Professional Engineers that he is not an engineer, has never done any engineering personally, and has never offered any engineering services), will simply "adjust the programs of the robots" to accommodate any certificator-induced change requirements (in the robotic line that AA insists Rossi never said existed).

3- we already got the green light from all the competent Authorities, so far the certifications are in course.

This one is easy. Although Rossi already had the green light from all the "competent Authorities", this leaves room for the possibility that Rossi did NOT have the green light from the incompetent Authorities. Thus, it was most likely that the reason there never was any production E-Cat product, nor any evidence of any robotized line or factory or certificates, or certificate applications, despite Rossi's claim that he had a production-ready product, factory, and robotic line, this seeming contradiction can be explained by the possibility that Rossi got the red light from "incompetent Authorities". Since we have no evidence to deny that incompetent Authorities prevented Rossi from producing his product and also may be responsible for causing the factory and it's robotized line to disappear, we cannot be certain that Rossi was lying.

I'm finally starting to see AA's perspective. And if you don't think this is a reasonable explanation, you're all a bunch of babblers. So there.

It is pretty common for people to believe lies that appeal to them. But Rossi believers are pretty special in that they repeatedly believe the same lies from the same liar.

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Andrea Rossi March 23, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Dear Philippe George:

I want also to add that:

1- the robotized line to produce the E-Cats is already in production

2- the programs of the robots will be adjusted as soon as we will have the requirements from the certificators

3- we already got the green light from all the competent Authorities, so far the certifications are in course.

Warm Regards,

A.R.

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I think I figured out Rossi's problem - his certificators are robots.

“What little evidence there is suggests that the SK exists and works.”

In the remote possibility that you would actually respond to a direct and simple question, please explain what evidence you are referring to.

Quote from Adrian Ashfield

Show me an actual Rossi quote where he has ever said he has has a working robotic factor....You have no evidence that is a lie.

Quote from Paradigmnoia

Andrea Rossi March 23, 2012 at 8:13 PM: "The robotized line to produce the E-Cats is already in production"

Quote from CWatters

Rossi in 2011.. "we already got industrial manufacturing underway and the e-cat is a ready product for the market"

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Adrian Ashfield comment in 2012: "To do anything with UL you have to have the final working prototype for them to test. So either Rossi does have something or it would be proof of lying."

Quote from Adrian Ashfield

What little evidence there is suggests that the SK exists and works.

Versus the mountain of evidence that Rossi is simply a liar, based on your own criteria, but also on court documents, Rossi's own testimony, absurd and self-contradictory "performance data", etc.

Quote from Adrian Ashfield

Dec 21, 2018: These days it is always good for a laugh to see the babblers wallowing around in their sea of erroneous facts.

@Adrian Ashfield We "babblers" have facts, but they don't count because you've declared them to be erroneous (without basis or explanation). And we're "babblers", because you said we are, which also impeaches our credibility.

Have I got your reasoning correct?

(Just checking to make sure I've accurately estimated the depth of your argument)

Quote from Adrian Ashfield

What little evidence there is suggests that the SK exists and works.

And what little evidence there is

1. Italo R. December 21, 2018 at 6:40 AM

   Dear Dr. Rossi,

   The first month of operation of the heating system in the customer’s factory has passed.

   1 – Is it still running?

   2 – Did everything go well?

   3 – Did you find that the results were those expected?

   4 – Could we know the COP value during the demonstration?

   Sincerely,

   Italo R.

2. Andrea Rossi December 21, 2018 at 11:54 AM

   Italo R.:

   1- yes

   2- yes

   3- yes

   4- we will talk about this issue during the presentation of January 31st

   Warm Regards,

   A.R.

And endlessly quoting Rossi’s claims is a pointless, time wasting argument without evidence.

Quote from Adrian Ashfield

You don't think demos provide evidence? LOL

Adrian,

Evidence of Energy Out > Energy In? No,

And neither do you so stop it.

This “demo” or whatever he calls it, will be a duplicate of the last “demos”.

A pathetic, non scientific, sleight of hand, believe whatever you want to believe sham, BUT, it will NOT provide evidence of above.

1. Italo R. December 21, 2018 at 6:40 AM

   Dear Dr. Rossi,

   The first month of operation of the heating system in the customer’s factory has passed.

   1 – Is the COP greater than 10,000

   2 – Does the e-cat also make espresso for the customer?

   3 – Is the customer one of the ten largest multinational corporations in the world?

   4 – Do you think the e-cat will cause world upheaval or world peace by the end of 2019?

   Sincerely,

   Italo R.

2. Andrea Rossi December 21, 2018 at 11:54 AM

   Italo R.:

   1- yes

   2- yes

   3- yes

   4- we will talk about this issue during the presentation of January 31st

   Warm Regards,

   A.R.

So what evidence did the famous Stockolm Demo provide in your opinion?

Quote from Paradigmnoia

• Andrea Rossi March 23, 2012 at 8:13 PM

  Dear Philippe George:

  I want also to add that:

  1- the robotized line to produce the E-Cats is already in production

  2- the programs of the robots will be adjusted as soon as we will have the requirements from the certificators

  3- we already got the green light from all the competent Authorities, so far the certifications are in course.

  Warm Regards,

  A.R.

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Yeah, but facts like this don't count in AA's world. After all, unless it is a statement that supports AA's point of view, it is fake facts or fake statements. I expect AA to explain this away by "clarifying" that what Rossi meant when he said "roboticized line" was not a really production line operated by robots, but something much simpler and that any confusion is due to language issues.

Quote from Adrian Ashfield

You don't think demos provide evidence? LOL

If you think Rossi's demos provide evidence of anything other than his being a crook, then the only thing to LOL about is your gullibility.

Quote from Deleo

3 – Is the customer one of the ten largest multinational corporations in the world?

4 – Do you think the e-cat will cause world upheaval or world peace by the end of 2019?

Sincerely,

Italo R.
Andrea Rossi December 21, 2018 at 11:54 AM

Italo R.:

1- yes

2- yes

3- yes

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Here’s an updated 2018 list of the richest companies in the world for 2018.

1. Walmart – $485.9 billion revenue in 2017
2. State Grid Corporation of China – $315.2 billion revenue in 2017
3. Sinopec Group – $267.5 billion revenue in 2017
4. China National Petroleum Corporation – $262.6 billion revenue in 2017
5. Toyota Motor – $254.7 billion revenue in 2017
6. Volkswagen – $240.3 billion revenue in 2017
7. Royal Dutch Shell – $240 billion revenue in 2017
8. Berkshire Hathway – $223.7 billion revenue in 2017
9. Apple Inc. – $215.6 billion revenue in 2017
10. Exxon Mobil – $205 billion revenue in 2017

Quote from Roseland67

Adrian,

This “demo” or whatever he calls it, will be a duplicate of the last “demos”.

A pathetic, non scientific, sleight of hand, believe whatever you want to believe sham, BUT, it will NOT provide evidence of above.

and no “costumer-confirmation”:

1. Frank Acland December 22, 2018 at 4:50 PM

   Dear Andrea,

   At the January 31st demonstration, will you be naming the customer that is currently using you 27kW E-Cat heater?

   Many thanks,

   Frank Acland

2. Andrea Rossi December 22, 2018 at 5:53 PM

   Frank Acland

   No. Hw wants not to be harassed.

   Warm Regards,

   A.R.