Rossi vs. Darden developments [CASE CLOSED]

Quote from JedRothwell

Direct current is much safer than AC. This is a fact. Edison proved it with his tests. Arthur Clarke and others suggested that with cold fusion generators we should go back to using DC to reduce the threat of electrocution.

No, he did not. This is a myth. His income was mainly from patents, and you cannot patent a stolen invention. The original inventor will complain and the Patent Office will revoke the patent. Edison did, of course, build on the work of others. All inventors do. For example, incandescent lights were invented about 20 years before he began working on them, by Moses Farmer and others. Farmer was not upset and did not claim the Edison stole anything from him. He had a high opinion of Edison.

If you think its so safe go and grab the positive lead on the alternator of your car.

Quote from oldguy

Yes it sounds likes lawyer talk. There is very evidence by Rossi against IH, yet he will have to get a unanimous jury verdict to win his suit against IH. For some reason many of the "Planet Rossi" folks seem to think that the lack of evidence is good for Rossi that it is IH that must bring evidence against Rossi. That is only for the counter suit. It is as if Rossi's lawyers are giving up attacking IH and are just playing it as a defense in the counter suit.

Oldguy, you keep getting it wrong. This is a copy and paste from the courts web site.

A civil case is usually between two or more persons, companies or corporations
who have a dispute concerning money or property. The party suing for compensation
is called the "plaintiff." The party being sued is called the "defendant."
In a civil case, the jurors must decide if and/or how to compensate the plaintiff
for any damages. In civil cases, six (6) jurors (three-fourths of the eight
jurors) must agree on a verdict.

@Rionrity. Alternator?? yes of course, is there a problem doing that??

Quote from Paradigmnoia

So if all the information is junk, then how could this be a GPT?

One simply cannot guarantee the performance of something with out of spec measurements (water meter, pressure sender) and reported measurements that make no sense (0.0 bar, input electricity higher than fed to the building).

All this was a test of is the patience of many people.

Not saying that all the information is junk, just the information that has been provided so far. You all should remind yourselves that 6 out of 8 jurors are going to decide this case and only on the information they are provided by the attorneys and witnesses. A good poker player does not give away his hand even under threat of "so called" sanction, which will in the end amount to no more than a slap on the hand anyway. Have any of you actually attended or been a party to a civil suit? I have and believe me its anybody's guess right now who will prevail.

Quote from JedRothwell

That quote was uploaded by Rossi in the lawsuit filing. Abd inserted the sics, as I explained previously.

If you do not believe Rossi, who do you believe?

Certainly not you Dewey.

Quote from Malcolm Lear

@Rionrity. Alternator?? yes of course, is there a problem doing that??

No problem, it's only direct current, but it will knock you on your bum for sure and if you hang on long enough it will stop your heart.

Just found this diagram from the 2011 1MW test. It shows a 1 bar pressure regulator. I have no idea whether its based on the actual setup or just guesswork. However I cannot see the pressed steel enclosure coping with that pressure.

Quote from Rionrlty

If you think its so safe go and grab the positive lead on the alternator of your car.

Quote from Rionrlty

No problem, it's only direct current, but it will knock you on your bum for sure and if you hang on long enough it will stop your heart.

Rionrlty,
you just demonstrated your "epertise and knowledge" in technical stuff.

No wonder that you gullibly believe Rossi's "successfull 1MW e-cat test / secret customer using 1MW steam for chemical production in a warehouse" farce.

Quote from Rionrlty

NO, but he may settle for half of the 89,000,000 so he can get his quark developed.

So you believe in Rossi's "Quark"? On the basis of what? A blurred image of blue light? Rossi's say-so?

Good Grief!

I think that Jed sums it up for the trolls of Planet Rossi and just think - the real fun is about to get started.

Rossi did not deliver then had the unmitigated audacity to pick a fight that he cannot finish. This is not going to end well for him or his increasingly microcosmic eco-system.

Quote from Rionrlty

Oldguy, you keep getting it wrong. This is a copy and paste from the courts web site.

A civil case is usually between two or more persons, companies or corporations
who have a dispute concerning money or property. The party suing for compensation
is called the "plaintiff." The party being sued is called the "defendant."
In a civil case, the jurors must decide if and/or how to compensate the plaintiff
for any damages. In civil cases, six (6) jurors (three-fourths of the eight
jurors) must agree on a verdict.

I think you are mistaken.

Rossi chose to use the federal court system not the state court.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_48

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure

(b) Verdict. Unless the parties stipulate otherwise, the verdict must be unanimous and must be returned by a jury of at least 6 members.

In the federal system, whether the trial is criminal or civil, the jury must reach a unanimous verdict.

http://litigation.findlaw.com/…erdicts-be-unanimous.html

Quote from Rionrlty

A good poker player does not give away his hand even under threat of "so called" sanction, which will in the end amount to no more than a slap on the hand anyway.

There is the risk of summary judgment as well, before the suit even gets to trial. Seems like a miscalculation to intentionally irritate a judge.

Quote from Rionrlty

Not saying that all the information is junk, just the information that has been provided so far. You all should remind yourselves that 6 out of 8 jurors are going to decide this case and only on the information they are provided by the attorneys and witnesses. A good poker player does not give away his hand even under threat of "so called" sanction, which will in the end amount to no more than a slap on the hand anyway. Have any of you actually attended or been a party to a civil suit? I have and believe me its anybody's guess right now who will prevail.

wrong, again, in the federal court it must be unanimous: https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_48

Rossi seems to be very foolish if he thinks he can withhold the data till the trial and not release during discovery it as the court directed. The defendant has the right to see the evidence claimed against them for a proper defense and it may very well be the case that judge will rule that the evidence will not be permissible during the trial if not given in discovery. Without data Rossi's case that it was a successful GPT will fall.

see:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_37

Rule 37. Failure to Make Disclosures or to Cooperate in Discovery; Sanctions

(ii) prohibiting the disobedient party from supporting or opposing designated claims or defenses, or from introducing designated matters in evidence;

However, since it is blindingly obvious to all except a few strange people here that Rossi has not a snowball's chance in hell of winning the $89M, the real issue is the counter-suit. I'm not sure, for that, whether Rossi needs to reveal anything about his defence in advance? Also, I'm not sure what matters that he might try to reveal later to defend himself are in any case covered by Discovery. Any ideas?

Regards, THH

THH Yes, Rossi's chance of winning against IH is almost non-existent.

Not sure about the counter suit. The same unanimous verdict requirements are in place for that.

However, I would not doubt that Penon or some other co-defendant in the counter suit may turn "state's evidence" against him in a plea deal.

The fact that two have fled the country likely means they must have doubts and fears. You don't just flee your native country and leave family behind without some "fear" of some kind.

I hope we get some information about the site visit this week. I wonder if Bass and Johnson will be along for that visit.

I would expect Johnson since he is the "president" of that customer rented site.

I would not doubt that Johnson could be "turned" since he has so much to loose and it doesn't look good for him with all those emails.

My hope is that the countersuit will end up with Rossi paying some back to IH and that money can be directed by IH to "real researchers" in the field. A few million in the hands of people like Miley, Letts, Mizuno, Biberian, Swartz.... could work wonders.

Quote from Alan Smith

The USA is not their native country.

neither is Russia or the Dominican Republic

Now, now - benefit of the doubt and all that. People DO go on holiday to those countries. Sometimes.