Rossi vs. Darden developments [CASE CLOSED]

Quote from Dewey Weaver

The ongoing demonstration of bitterness and cluelessness is extraordinary.

It would have been better for IH never to have been formed in the first place. The incessant vitriol from Dewey speaks for itself. LENR would have been on firmer ground without IH. Now we just have a big sticky fuzz ball to deal with, and additional scorn from the general public. NiH systems have been shown to work. Rossi brought that into the fore of many minds through his demonstrations, believed by the upper echelons of government and academia. It seems to me that IH has fought to stifle any advancement of this line of LENR research, choosing to throw small amounts of funding toward non-commercially-viable LENR research, seemingly as a diversion tactic, while disrupting open source efforts. IH's efforts are not needed, or wanted (except for maybe by the recipients of the token research money).

Your shifting of the blame from Rossi to IH strains credulity. Why are you here, IHFB?

@Eric

I have just as much right to express my thoughts here as you. And I think you and I have conversed enough over the past year to understand the purposes of our presences here.

Quote from Dewey Weaver

THH - I know that you don't need to reminded of this but remember that you're arguing with brainwashed and duped numbskulls. Character assassination is only possible as a one way street per the Planet Rossi codec / dictionary. In the real world, there are other key players who need to be seriously concerned about what their character is going to look like should we get to some evidence and testimony.

Regarding pipe size - what does it matter if the system had possibility of phase change? He made a $1.5M warm water circulator. Planet Rossi doesn't get to invent facts after the fact either - busted in so many ways.

Dear Dewey,

What you say here is excellent for illustrating my S-Theory of humor, see one of my 100 Septoes:

92. Recipe of humor: sex, stupidity shit, sadism. surprisingly.

Yes, it is sex too because it is screwing the truth- on which day of the 1 year test was it observed by the IH experts that it is about

103 C water and not steam?

During the long test nobody was interested to calculate how much steam can flow per hour by a 40mm pipe? Why do you not state clearly the diameter was so many mm? Honestly clearly not using inadequate words as moot?

Nothing is moot, there.

You are insulting sadistically people- we are brainwashed numbskulls because we do not accept your strange fuzzy story. English is not the best for insults, I could combine a few Hungarian, Serbian and Gipsy swear words to answer, but it is not worth, difficult translation.

All the 5 characteristic S-words are in your writing except Surprise.

You are becoming predictible. Find something better than Rossi Planet- you do not use it well. It is self- brainwashing from now

Peter

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Quote from oldguy

IH Fanboy wrote:

They have funded several researchers at a time when there is almost no money in the field. FTFY. Do you think they are friends of the MFMP? If so, think again.

Who has IH "co-opted" as opposed to just funded. Name one that was "co-opted" that as in anyway publically attacked Rossi. No researcher that I know of that are supported by IH have said anything like that. In fact, most of them have remained so silent as to only know of their existence by Darden's interview. If you mean co-opted in terms that they have received funds from IH which you crossed out then perhaps yes, but if you mean it in terms that IH is using them against their wishes and against their views of Rossi then no - In terms used by Rossi, I demand proof.

They attempted to co-opt Rossi's technnology, but he was on to them and filed the suit to stop them.

Quote from Rionrlty

They attempted to co-opt Rossi's technnology, but he was on to them and filed the suit to stop them.

I am sure, Rossi told you that, did he? It is really crazy how many different scenarios are being constructed to explain that this guy obviously has what he claims (since many years...) and the resto of the world is evil. He could become another EInstein of the 21 century, but doesn't seem to be interested. Why? Maybe you can provide another new conspircacy theory, that we are not yet aware of...

Quote from JedRothwell

This is nearly futile. It is pretty much a waste of time. It takes them months or years to accomplish tasks that would take weeks in a properly equipped and manned laboratory. Plus they do not have modern diagnostic equipment such as SEM, so they are floundering around in the dark.

Exactly so.

It is pointless to run endless variations of what one THINKS Rossi might have used for fuel, or as a heating regime, and relying on luck to hit on some combination that does the trick. (even assuming that there is something useful to be replicated in Rossi's farrago)

IHFB and RiRi - you're hopeless, exhausted and cornered. All the lies have caught up with you and you're not going to win this.

Peter - you need to try and preserve yourself for real LENR progress. Last week was a

demonstrable week for the crazies and you seem to be caught in the gravitational pull that

has consumed several others who are no longer useful to the cause. Wake up man and get yourself together!

His first patent claims only Ni and H.

If the material that he claimed in is patent is not correct (best known embodiment) then his patent and priority are useless and he has sold something knowing it doesn't work. Is that fraud?

Isn't every week a demonstrable week? If we can't demonstrate that a week is indeed a week, then we might as well all go and live on Planet Rossi

I tried for 2 years to get hot Ni and H gas to work (on the side) with no success. I know of others that also spent time chasing Rossi's claims with no success. I guess I lacked the secret ingredient from planet Rossi. However, I doubt that his patents have any worth at all if they do not allow others "skilled in the art" to replicate.

There are other LENR items that do work.

Dear Dewey,

Why, instead of saying something relevant and significant about LENR, the Plant visit, Test, research funded by IH/you, open and disputed

questions of go/not go importance, etc., you give wise advises to those who disagree with you in an artificial language in which the words are English but the sense is missing?

In which last week crazyness was I trapped?

You could simply say Murray is/is not a genius and we, the opponents will understand.

You have spoken about "our experts" - one expert paid by IH was Penon and now you denigrate him vehemently. Why not in 2015? The new ones are better?

I am not joking this style of speaking and thinking can become irreversible, who knows if you will be able o speak again rationally and straightly, not in void slogans.

Tell something true and reasonable, please!

peter

Finally tracked the ball valve used on the original blue box. Its available in 3 sizes, but since a '2' followed by something indiscernible is visible in the photo's, it would seem its likely 2" 1/2 - DN65.

http://www.itap.it/ball-valves…lve,-full-flow.asp?id_m=1

@IHFB said : "Not after they are given a token amount of research money and placed under NDA. They are now co-opted, plain and simple. IH does not have the greater good in mind. Otherwise, they would be openly supporting MFMP researchers without NDA restrictions."

I do not know if this is true of IH, but I do know it is the way business works. It has and will continue to work like this. Nothing evil here. They have said they are seeding small bits here and there. It seems prudent.

But IHFB continues: " IH does not have the greater good in mind. Otherwise, they would be openly supporting MFMP researchers without NDA restrictions."

I really doubt the above. It does not imply that to me.

I think you bring up a good point, but everyone is entrenched in their position. IH is incorporated as a business not a charity. I am unaware if any private company is supporting MFMP. They use blood, sweat, tears and a little bit of crowdfunding.

Peter - much to the dismay of Planet Rossi, several important folks finally got a look inside the 1MW container last week, including those who Rossi had previously attempted to keep out. We now know why he didn't want certain people to be able to more closely examine his system. The take away is that one side is emboldened and knows what to do next, and the other side may have a more clues as to the additional heat rounds coming their way.

Dewey, can you give any facts, data, measurements, ..?

Sorry OG - As a result of Rossi's decision to litigate this matter, the expert reports will have to be presented in court.

Quote from Dewey Weaver

Peter - much to the dismay of Planet Rossi, several important folks finally got a look inside the 1MW container last week, including those who Rossi had previously attempted to keep out. We now know why he didn't want certain people to be able to more closely examine his system. The take away is that one side is emboldened and knows what to do next, and the other side may have a more clues as to the additional heat rounds coming their way.

Thanks, a bit better but abscons logic.

Some new eyes have seeen what the older eyes could not? You are speaking about the container or the complete Plant, where is the bad beef?

Please modify the last sentence as what has IH to do and what has Rossi (person not Planet!)

And please tell exactly- Exhibit 5, confirmed/infirmed? Why is this so difficult?

What has happened in the Plant during the Test

will decide who wins, not Rossi's pre-history or Milanese accent. And the stake is huge beyond money- was a LENR technology created or not? Humankind asks it, Planet Terra, not Planet Rossi.

peter