Rossi vs. Darden developments [CASE CLOSED]

I am waiting to see Rossi enter as evidence something like a signed email from IH that says..... Sure we'll forget what you signed about Doral being just a 2 year sale of heat and will call this the GPT anyway and you don't even have to have the ERV take the measurements, just copy what ever data you think up and write it down, you don't even have to follow the Test plan and use the equipment Penon said he would use- after all their specs are not up to the temperatures and rates anyway.

Yah, like that is going to happen.

Dewey Weaver ,

Do you know (and can reveal) if the condensate return pipe in the Doral Plant image (from the USPTO) is insulated, or just bare white PVC?

Quote from Peter Gluck

Suppose all goes to CF energy production and 100W/g are attained (1 W/g is more realistic now. Cf will generate then) 200,000,000x 100= 20,000, 000,000W that is 0.02 TW was calculated with 100 W/g

...OK, has PdD a commercial future? Y/ N

The first nuclear reactor used 50 tons of uranium and uranium oxide, and put out 0.5W...

Quote from THHuxleynew

It gets boring after a while which is why I like to take a rest from time to time.

Welcome to the daftest thread on the internet. There's more mindless bitching and pointless verbiage here than on the entire coldfusioncommunity.net website...

Okay, I ran the numbers for Pd-D cold fusion and started a new thread, "Palladium cold fusion as an energy source." These are very rough estimates with a broad range of starting assumptions, as you see.

Palladium cold fusion as an energy source

I should have given more credit to Martin Fleischmann, who talked me through this issue many years ago. He was an expert on palladium. Plus, he won the Palladium Medal from the electrochemical society, which couldn't have been more appropriate!

(I don't know what metal the medal is made of.)

Quote from Bob

Rossi has not answered the counter claims from IH (which included the pipe size) because he cannot. He does not have a leg to stand on.

Yes he did: he denied them. That is the kind of answer that is sufficient for that stage of the proceedings.

Quote from Bob

IFHB,

Any thoughts on this?

It falls within the mantra: if you repeat it enough times, maybe they will believe you. For example, if you say "fake data" a hundred times, in a hundred different ways, maybe you will bring some on board. The only weird part that I see is the latter half of November, and that will need to be explained. And I can think of any number of ways in which it could. Otherwise, it looks like real data to me, with a real varying load. For anyone who has ever collected data knows, there will be some consistency from day to day. Once a system is dialed in and performing in a stable manner, you won't see huge variations. Jed and others would like you to believe otherwise, but I question whether they have had sufficient experience to recognize fake data from real.

(Trying again ...) Several new documents added to the docket:

Note that there are some documents that are cropped out of the thumbnail. (Haven't caught up with the thread; my apologies if this was already pointed out.)

The new Exhibits are rather interesting.

Um, yeah. I'll be straight up: this is the first time that I've seen evidence that Darden was sincere in his motives, at least initially. It seems to have taken a dark turn, however, when it appears that Darden sicced some Israelis on Levi and possibly others... what the? Then our very own Dewey messing around with the Swedish profs with some veiled threats. Wow. Nasty, nasty, nasty.

Looks interesting... Quite an opening paragraph:

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1. The pleadings of Defendants Thomas Darden, Industrial Heat, LLC, and IPH

International B.V. are hereby stricken, with prejudice, for engaging in bad faith litigation,

including the attempted bribery and coercion of witnesses.

I haven't bothered looking at all this arcane stuff before: Is 167-01 something the judge has ordered, or that Rossi is asking for?

Quote from Zeus46

Looks interesting... Quite an opening paragraph:

Well, the whole Motion was struck, so the pleadings of Leonardo et al on this subject are moot. Except for the strange tale that we are left to decipher anyways.

Also, Darden seems more technically savvy about IR usage than I expected.

The discussion about the alumina and plug are interesting.

The Lugano report claims that the sample was collected from one of the ridges, not the plug.

"In order to determine the nature of the material covering the reactor, a sample from one of the ridges was analyzed."

(underlining added)

- first sentence, Appendix 2, Lugano report

"From the analyses performed on the sample taken from the reactor, we determined that the material constituting the outer shell is 99% pure alumina (Appendix 2); better yet, that impurities, if present, are below the experimental limit of measurement."

-page 8, Lugano report

Quote from Shane D.

What an understatement! Rossi has gone off the deep end. . .

Except that you have Levi, declaring under penalty of perjury, that what Rossi's lawyers have laid out, actually happened. Not sure we can just sweep this behavior under the rug.

Quote from Zeus46

Is 167-01 something the judge has ordered, or that Rossi is asking for?

This was a proposed order for the judge to consider.

My document uploading skills have not been so good today, and I missed several documents:

Quote from Paradigmnoia

Document 163 says:

Note that doc. 163 has a discussion that precedes the numbered points as well.

Quote from JedRothwell

Thank you!! Eric: Maybe you should add this [ERV data] to the filename?

Done.

Reading the Levi stuff I am reminded of this:

Quote from Alan Smith

Durapot 801 is 99% Alumina. 810 is (from memory) Alumina and Magnesium Oxide with a trace of Zinc Oxide.

Quote from Dewey Weaver

Alan - We know that the Bologna University folks have kept their integrity so there are no questions or concerns there - I have no doubt that they tested and reported on material that was delivered to them by Levi. Taking it from there, what part of the story would you like adjust from a Durapot 810 reactor at Lugano to 99% pure alumina material test result with Levi as the middleman per his own words?Dewey,

Quote from DAK2

Was the analytical test by X-Ray diffraction? If so, what does an X-ray look like if you take say 80% crystalline material and mix it with 20% amorphous material of similar density? Won't the amorphous material just elevate the background and the spectrum be dominated by the crystalline material? Alumina has many different diffraction spectra. What phase was identified? When you say 99% pure what does that mean - 99% of what you can see? It is like saying some metal is 99.99% pure but only relative to what was analyzed and the precision and sensitivity for various impurities.

And this possibly tasty morsel:

The Playground

Quote from Zeus46

I haven't bothered looking at all this arcane stuff before: Is 167-01 something the judge has ordered, or that Rossi is asking for?

Rossi is asking for this.

Item 160 was another thing Rossi asked the judge to order. Item 163 was from the judge saying, "no, I will not order that." Her response to this new item 167-01 has not been posted yet.