(not MFMP but) BG preparing some big announcement?

  • One of the giants of the LENR world commented to me recently (email) on Ken Shoulder's work.



    "This (EVO) is a phenomenon that needs to be explored..... Ken's work is important but he died before finishing the understanding and getting the recognition. The EVO could easily be part of the LENR process. Unfortunately, this requires the marriage of two "strange" phenomenon, which creates skepticism squared. Unfortunately, detecting the EVO and transmutation products is not easy, requiring expensive and high-end equipment. This is not a research path worth taking without access to the required tools."

  • Wyttenbach


    Thank you for that, an interesting paper. However, a Ken Shoulders style EVO is not quite a plasmoid. While it may contain some ionised gas etc, it is definitely not formed by ejecta from hot silicon. The micro-ball lightning phenomena described are true plasmoids produced by high-power systems. KS describes in his papers EVO's being created at low temperatures and voltages as low as 200. I think this is one of the best papers to get an overview of his methods and results.

  • I should mention that invoking solitons has a big implication - that the electromagnetics have become distinctly nonlinear. Maxwell's equations are solutions to linear electromagnetic behavior and do a good job of describing most observed electromagnetic behavior. I am not saying that solitons cannot be a part of the description of EVOs or any other phenomenon, but before you can invoke solitons in the solution you have to identify the strongly nonlinear electromagnetic behavior that is required to support a soliton in the solution.

  • I should mention that invoking solitons has a big implication - that the electromagnetics have become distinctly nonlinear.


    BobHiggins : Also Le-Clair worked with soliton waves. In cavitation fusion we also see highly non-linear behavior. Physics can't teach nature to behave in a way that models become simple...


    Ken Shoulders style EVO is not quite a plasmoid


    The only known physical structure allowed for "electron only" EVO's are anapoles, where electrons are confined by their own fields!


    See: Nonradiating anapole modes in dielectric nanoparticles


    : http://www.lukiyanchuk.ru/publ/110.pdf


    Shoulders used ceramics (Si) for his experiments, what could explain certain side-effects. Silicium is the best laboratory element to produce EVO's. I "guess" that a more rigid and higher charged center (Si) is the base of the EVO structure. The second benefit would be a much smaller overall radius for the EVO's.

  • One of the giants of the LENR world commented to me recently (email) on Ken Shoulder's work.



    "This (EVO) is a phenomenon that needs to be explored..... Ken's work is important but he died before finishing the understanding and getting the recognition. The EVO could easily be part of the LENR process. Unfortunately, this requires the marriage of two "strange" phenomenon, which creates skepticism squared. Unfortunately, detecting the EVO and transmutation products is not easy, requiring expensive and high-end equipment. This is not a research path worth taking without access to the required tools."

    dustry plasma science is well established and has been studied for a long time


    https://phys.org/news/2016-08-…-universe-laboratory.html


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty_plasma

  • Key Shoulders identified the white EVO and the black EVO. These names correspond to the generally standard accepted scientific terms dark polaritons and bright polaritons.


    Here is a good description that I like


    http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms9993


    ncomms9993-f5.jpg

  • Now you are being silly. You know my dad it bigger than yours. And what does this refer to "posted on this work before you even knew who he was" ? Time travel? I read some of these papers when you were still a lettuce seedling. Try imagining this. There are NO sparks.

  • Now you are being silly. You know my dad it bigger than yours. And what does this refer to "posted on this work before you even knew who he was" ? Time travel? I read some of these papers when you were still a lettuce seedling. Try imagining this. There are NO sparks.

    A freed polariton soliton


    A freed polariton soliton


    One post back in 2015 that mentioned Shoulders relationship to polaritons relating to black holes. Shoulders said that EVO where black holes. I provided the insight that dark mode solitons absorbs EMF and acts like an ANALOG black hole as Ken Shoulders observed. Now that you are becoming interested in EVOs these old posts might hold insights for you.


    I have been trying to educate you over years and now you beleive that you are an expert.

  • Axil: I am only a beginner but I want to let my inner polaritron to go free.

    But can I?

    Apparently polaritrons from this reference are confined onto solid surfaces /crystal supports,

    but are not free. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polariton


    From reading the reference you gave me plasmons= polaritrons can be generated by visible and uv frequency.

    My interpretation from https://www.researchgate.net/p…t_and_glimpse_into_future

    Surface plasmons/polaritons if they exist may be involved in the generation of charge clusters.

    The article mentions that the exciting frequency is in the visible(400-700) spectrum for Ag/Au but can be UV (~140 nm) for Aluminium

    Silver has a better Q, “quality factor” than gold (80 versus 15 at exciting frequency corresponding to 700nm)

    “Silver is a better plasmonic metal than gold” the reference states.. also..

    a large energy amplification of input energy intensity is modelled for silver nanospheres as ~600.


    For generation of photoelectrons, conventional double photon activation (2PP-PEEM) and 1pp-PEEM (depending on work function/ the exciting frequency) is proposed as the cause

    Perhaps UV/ light photons generate lots of photoelectrons which then form charge clusters near the nanosphere/nanocrack

    Perhaps the great energy amplification at hotspots due to surface plasmons in the nanosphere/nanocrack causes ejection of +ve metal ions to join the electron cluster to form a stabilised charge cluster (evo).That’s my idea.

    But can I let my inner plasmon/polaritron go free?

  • A good example of how polaritons and nanoparticles are symbiotic is the SunCell. R. Mills has said that the self sustain mode is caused by silver vapor.


    In fact, the silver condenses into nanoparticles that provide and support polariton creation on their surface. Self sustain mode that the SunCell has shown is a result of self stimulation of the polaritons when those polaritons produce their own self simulating energy. Silver reflects UV and visible light well. This allows a mirror to form between the surface of the nanoparticle and the hydrogen dielectric gas in which photons become entangled with electrons on the surface of the nanoparticles, a process that produces polaritons.




    The SunCell reaction will stop when the temperature of the dusty plasma exceeds the silver vapor condinsation point at 2200C. At that temperature, the dusty plasma turns into just a plasma with no nanoparticles being condensed. This will cause the SunCell to fail since the solar cells must see a black body temperature of 3000C to function.



    R. Mills has gotten the SunCell to operated at 3000C, but that dusty plasma was formed using an eroding tungsten electrode whose vapor condinsation temperature is very high at 6000C. When R. Mills puts all the parts of the SunCell together, he will see a failed system and won't understand why it is not working the way he believes that hydrinos should. But you will know.

  • There was a Greek inventor who claimed they hydrogen is conductive and dielectric.

    Secondly, how do you know if the dome and walls are not hotter than the core?

    The energy could be transferred from the core by silver and photons.

    So the assumed process can still be possible.

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    Axil. EVO's are nothing to do with dusty plasma.

    Do you have a reference for this idea, or is it your original thinking?


    The connection of EVO's and dusty plasma is your speculation - you should prove your point. Don't expect Alan will do it instead of you.


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    In fact, the silver condenses into nanoparticles that provide and support polariton creation on their surface.


    Do you have a reference for this "fact", or is it your original thinking?

  • Axil is stuck on the idea that an EVO must contain something other than 'just' electrons. It can of course, but doesn't have to. It is an Exotic Vacuum Object. Not a plasma or a dusty anything or a charged nanoparticle. The proof that such electron clouds can be created as discrete microscopic/macroscopic objects (biggest reported around 0,25mm diameter) and be moved from place to place by EM fields is the thing that has never been conclusively proven to everyone's satisfaction, they remain 'exotic'.

  • Axil is stuck on the idea that an EVO must contain something other than 'just' electrons. It can of course, but doesn't have to. It is an Exotic Vacuum Object. Not a plasma or a dusty anything or a charged nanoparticle. The proof that such electron clouds can be created as discrete microscopic/macroscopic objects (biggest reported around 0,25mm diameter) and be moved from place to place by EM fields is the thing that has never been conclusively proven to everyone's satisfaction, they remain 'exotic'.

    If you have read Egely work, you will see that Egely has validated the polariton theory. Notice the term that Egely uses "Fusion-by-Pseudo-Particles". The pseudo particle is the polariton. At the end of page 41(part 2), Egely gives a lecture on the properties of the Plasmon Polariton. It is well for you'll to take this insight to heart. Because of the Pauli Exclusion Principle of fermions, electons cannot form a self containing soliton. Only bosons can do that, it is a rule of quantum mechanics.


    Egely produces LENR experimental results and transmutation WITHOUT HYDROGEN, just SPPs.



    http://www.egely.hu/letoltes/F…seudo-Particles-Part1.pdf

    http://www.egely.hu/letoltes/F…seudo-Particles-Part2.pdf
    http://www.egely.hu/letoltes/F…seudo-Particles-Part3.pdf

  • I beleive that Egely had a profound impact on Bob G thinking. Egely my have led Bob G into the Ken Shoulders theory track. This may be what the "Red Pill" might signify.


    The polariton concept is very difficult to understand. It requires a lot of mental horsepower and background to take to heart. Most people are not detailed oriented to the extent in their desire to get down to the most fundamental questions that a theory implies.


    At this early juncture in my understanding about John Hutchinson's work, I beleive that he does not produce EVOs to produce the effects that he achieves. He goes directly to the generation of monopole magnetic field lines. EVOs (polaritons) also produce monopole field lines. It is this type of magnetic interaction with matter that destabilizes the nucleus and causes nuclear matter to decompose into mesons.

  • Axil said "Egely has validated the polariton theory."


    With respect to Shoulders EVOs I do not read Egely's writing as validation but rather speculation.

    The speculation is in UPPERCASE in the following


    "There is a similar strange effect, found by Ken Shoulders (U.S. Patent 5,018,180/1991, or 5,148,461/1992), which belongs here

    ..At a modest 500 V potential difference, a bunch of electrons and protons form an interesting particle cluster, which Shoulders called an "electrum validum," on the cathode tip, creating a hole on a fine aluminum or ceramic flat anode (or witness plate).

    The calculations yield an astonishing amount of excess energy, up to 90 times, and some transmutation effects as well; ..


    There is also a plasma wakefield acceleration, which collectively accelerates a wave of charged particles. The gradually decreasing tapered surface of the metal tip GENERATES POLARITON wave transients (besides other effects), which have an electric field amplitude increasing with time along its path toward the tip.

    These electric fields MIGHT be high enough to generate a number of neutrons

    via the p + e• ->n + v (Widom-Larsen type) process,

    where e• is a wave of surface or volumetric electrons, a PLASMON POLARITON

    a virtual particle of high effective mass. '


    Bob G says that it costs only $5000 to replicate Egely's microwave induced copper to gold transmutation


    I would consider a gold replication a better validation of his polariton theory and look forward to it soon.

  • "Well this is bad.

    Bob seems to have turned into a prophet.

    He is referencing scripture and predicting dire calamities.

    This is a personal tragedy for Bob and his family.

    This is a big problem for MFMP and their credibility as Bob is so linked to them as a spokesman and those who wish to can use this in a bad way.

    I wish Bob well and hope he recovers speedily from what has the appearance of a mental breakdown or psychological episode.

    I hope the MFMP can recover from this quickly and continue to make good progress.

    A bad day for LENR.



    Bob seems to have turned into a prophet: Sterling Allan

    He's referencing scripture and predicting dire calamities (to underage female celebrities): Sterling Allan

    This is a personal tragedy for Bob and his family: replace "Bob" with "Sterling"


    Should I continue?


    When is the LENR purge itself from the Papp believers? You are crawling with cockoos and cockoo believers, and you expect to be taken seriously?

  • Bob G says that it costs only $5000 to replicate Egely's microwave induced copper to gold transmutation


    I would consider a gold replication a better validation of his polariton theory and look forward to it soon.


    Here a picture from the Russian Shockwave transmutation experiments based on Cu inpacts.


    Eglys dream seems not be be very far...



  • Should I continue?


    When is the LENR purge itself from the Papp believers? You are crawling with cockoos and cockoo believers, and you expect to be taken seriously?

    Creativity and major mental disorders go hand and hand. This mental relationship has been recognized from wayback. The ancient Greeks considered both as “having been touched by the gods.” Aristoteles, in his perspicacity, stated, “There is no genius without having a touch of madness.” This phenomenon has been verified repeatedly in studies in the past. Most of the breakthrough thinkers were differed from the average mentality. Does one phenomenon cause the other or do both share a common underlying factor or mechanism? How are geniuses able to accomplish “creative fits”?


    LUDWIG VON BEETHOVEN – BIPOLAR DISORDER?

    EDISON - OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER?

    MICHELANGELO – AUTISM?

    EINSTEIN – AUTISM?

    TESLA -OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER?

    CHARLES DICKENS – DEPRESSION?

    WINSTON CHURCHILL – BIPOLAR DISORDER?

    ISAAC NEWTON – EVERYTHING?

    JOHN NASH - SCHIZOPHRENIA?


    A great portion of our brain’s function is normally allocated for social intercourse and for the “give-and-take” inherent in myriad social interactions. Humans are social creatures, our phenomenal evolutionary success as a species depends on this. This dedicated-to-social-functioning component of our brain fosters the development of empathy, altruism, and cooperation. It enables us to discern emotionally the intentions and feelings of others and to interact with others. All of these factors form the second part of our nature, which originates from the evolutionary pressures of the social aspects of human experience.


    The absence or deficiency of the social algorithms in brain function frees enormous power in the brains of these temperamentally lopsided individuals. This power then becomes available for creative processes in the right individual. Creative persons are now able to think in alternatives, and conciliate and synthesize patterns to come up with novel solutions to seemingly intractable problems and/or create stirring works of art that emotionally mobilize us to narratives of human predicaments. Moreover, creative geniuses envision new and comprehensively applicable paradigms of nature’s workings. They bypass our evolutionary limits of comprehension and invent ways to access the mathematical arrangement of nature, thereby conceiving, for example, quantum mechanics. Although often exhibiting a learned civility, these individuals may nevertheless be deficient in understanding the algorithms that help us perceive and comprehend the emotional gestalt, state of mind, and intentions needed for social interaction.


    On the other hand, the charismatic individual is able to transform nations or create religious movements by playing to our social nature. He or she uses our innate yearning for certainty in a world of uncertainty and ambiguity to lure us into unreflecting submissiveness to his or her dictates.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclothymia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder


    Creative individuals are prone to be “cyclothymic,” while scientists and engineers predominantly tend to be “schizoid.” Unfortunately, creative geniuses are more vulnerable to major mental disorders. There are many examples of this phenomenon throughout history. Charles Darwin was aloof, obsessive-compulsive, and a hypochondriac. His co-discoverer and fellow genius, Alfred Wallace, was also aloof and a lonely wanderer. Nikola Tesla was often mentally compromised, and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart suffered from mood swings. Beethoven was periodically depressed; Tolstoy was a strange, otherworldly, idiosyncratic aristocrat; and let’s not forget the periodically outright psychotic, super-genius Isaac Newton. Albert Einstein was an aloof man who mistreated his second wife Elsa (who was also his cousin). He gave away his illegitimate daughter, sight unseen, although on the surface he displayed social affability and charm.


    More recently, Steve Jobs, a very intense, compulsive genius, exhibited signs of cyclothymia. He was able to recruit the creative powers of others and literally built the realm of computer technology. Yet, under oath, he swore impotence and sterility to avoid the obligations to his illegitimate daughter. And the list goes on and on.

    Winston Churchill had periodic dark moods, Theodore Roosevelt had mood oscillations, and the often melancholy and otherworldly Abraham Lincoln and Alexander the Great were seized by demonic fits.


    Creative individuals share a similar lopsided temperament with other individuals who are vulnerable to major mental disorders. Their temperamental components are an extreme variant that originates from evolutionary pressures. Although deficient in social algorithms, this releases enormous brain power that enables these unencumbered individuals to excel in creative activities. Individuals also endowed with high intelligence, curiosity, persistence of effort, tenacity, energy, and enthusiasm are able to reach heightened levels of creativity in art, science, and politics.


    Even Sherlock Holmes was not right in the head. His avoidance of the emotional brain is a “condition” like Asperger's disorder


    https://www.psychologytoday.co…1301/mind-sherlock-holmes


    Most nice guys are as dumb as posts.



  • Sherlock,


    I liked what you said about BG, right up until you compared him to Sterling. Yes, I can see your point about the abnormal religious aspect, but Sterling was a child molester also. He even talked about his desire for under age children on his PESWiki. Never will I forget reading him in real time talk of his desires...so weird. I have not tracked Sterling since the Salt Lake City District Attorney filed child molestation charges against him, but I would think he is in jail by now...and probably very popular there. ;)


    That said, BG went off the deep end as you said, and hopefully he did not take MFMP down with him.