• Mark Pinnell -- No, we were talking about back EMF from the plasma collapse.

    That makes more sense than heat and I can see how they would measure it from the voltage and current drop but I wouldn't describe it as recovered.

    When you say plasma collapse are you talking about when the multiple shells compress down to the anode surface into the quiescient regime or the other way where the shells reduce in number and go back to dark mode? If you mean the quiescient mode then this would make sense at it was at this point they saw the huge increase in heat and low power consumption. Was the back EMF only seen for a short period of time? Would the need to re-establish the plasma and collapse it continously to keep the recovery going?

    It doesn't sound like it was running under it's own power at any time so they weren't recovering more than when they were using from what I've seen. Maybe they did see a negative voltage at the supply but they dont mention anything like that that I've seen.

    What converssation was the back EMF comment made?

  • What I don't understand is, after 33 years of soliciting investment, how he still has control of the company. Presumably he's sold a greater portion of it to outside shareholders at this point. BLP has got to have a pretty creative capital structure. But then, his brother is a hedge fund guy.


    Perhaps part of the reason they've never made it to market is that, even though he retains voting control, he has little economic stake in the company anymore. Instead, he raises money, draws a salary and pursues his theories. Even if they go to market, perhaps he won't benefit financially.

  • What I don't understand is, after 33 years of soliciting investment, how he still has control of the company. Presumably he's sold a greater portion of it to outside shareholders at this point. BLP has got to have a pretty creative capital structure. But then, his brother is a hedge fund guy.


    Perhaps part of the reason they've never made it to market is that, even though he retains voting control, he has little economic stake in the company anymore. Instead, he raises money, draws a salary and pursues his theories. Even if they go to market, perhaps he won't benefit financially.

    He is listed as main shareholder, nevertheless.

    I certainly Hope to see LENR helping humans to blossom, and I'm here to help it happen.

  • It doesn't sound like it was running under it's own power at any time so they weren't recovering more than when they were using from what I've seen. Maybe they did see a negative voltage at the supply but they dont mention anything like that that I've seen.

    They don't talk much. It was an actual conversation online, but not AFAIK recorded..

  • This is question i often asked myself, so comfirm me Frogfall a wavelength shifter can only do that from high frequencies to the lowest never the reverse even by some kind of resonance harmonics ? Because this is the postulate i understood from Pr Hagelstein expectations.

    I guess they can always resort to using a "wavelength shifter" - such as a phosphor coating (like the inside of fluorescent tubes), or some other kind of scintillator - followed by a UV filter layer.


    If we ever see an actual product, that is.

  • This is question i often asked myself, so comfirm me Frogfall a wavelength shifter can only do that from high frequencies to the lowest never the reverse even by some kind of resonance harmonics ? Because this is the postulate i understood from Pr Hagelstein expectations.

    Wrong! Likely true when converting a single photon to a single photon. But not true when multiple photons can combine. See Pharis Williams concept of phat photons.