Rossi and Cures [split]

Quote from can

If it was actually possible to use a special catalyst to load ultra-dense hydrogen into non-active materials as I described, the Rossi way (whatever it truly is) might not necessarily be the best. One could use plain foils, or wires, and then, after a large loading of those H(0) clusters is somehow confirmed, attempt to pass an electrical current through them, whether in a controlled manner or by discharging a capacitor bank. Perhaps that would be enough to induce the same reaction that Holmlid observes with a laser.

Rossi may actually have done this at some point...below is a somwhat strangulated Google translation of an old post by Cures (from the waybackmachine) located for me by the estimable Hank Mills some time ago. Worth pointing out that hot tungsten wires dissociate H2, as will copper, magnesium, and perhaps cobalt/iron. I am hoping to obtain top-class translations of these btw. That is, if the Italian-language originals still exist. There is a lot of material there on triggering etc. The point of interest here is that Cures (who fell out with Rossi over his propensity to leak information) knew a lot about all the systems, and also knew Fiovoranti (yes he is a real and entirely separate persona) and both were present at a test done for the Italian Army (date unknown to me). But apparently it really happened.

Cures posted....."Copper - Raney nickel cuprate [!], cobalt and iron - the intrinsic pyrophoricity metal powders - problem of contamination of the office by oxygen - voices in the e-Cat takes place a contact between water and active charging - period of hours between start and power - conditioning of charge through cycles of absorption and release of H [but suffice do this once] - temperature-pressure cycle, the "tablet" on range pressurized much more limited - Pordenone observations a) we are operating at 1050C [!, and 350C of the third party? topic proton ceramics and their thermal limits], b) it is like in one hundred meters - count the hundredths of a second [interval "phonon" restricted power? - Instantaneous heating ramps [resistances tungsten] very accentuated] - hydrides that split in the release of the metal surface, particularly manifest with magnesium. For other time thoughts in sull'esafluoruro freedom of lanthanum, the bromine [= smell] and on acids Brønsted / protons. Good night."

Quote from Eric Walker

I find the interaction of heated tungsten with hydrogen interesting for reasons that go beyond dissociation of hydrogen; I wonder whether tungsten can be induced to fission or to decay by way of alpha decay, as it is quite heavy and already has an isotope that is a natural alpha emitter.

Cures suggested elsewhere that using Tungsten made too many Neutrons, so it was dropped. They also used Constantan at one point- not as a heater but perhaps influenced by Celani as some kind of catalytic element.

ETA- sorry if they are scrambled - I am just getting what might be called 'rambling cut N' pastes. And Cures and Fiovoranti are definitely 2 real and different people. He is also a real colonel who was seconded to NATO and for reasons one could only imagine is next to impossible to find on the web. Some might take that as proof he is imaginary, but I have had a first-hand account of his reality.

He never walked into it, he was driver and gopher for the science crew not once but quite a few times. Not a technician himself, or even a scientist. However, a highly literate, intelligent and acute observer of human nature and totally honest and straightforward in every aspect of his life - and a long-time good friend of mine - a friendship pre-dating him brushing up against Rossi.

Shane. For the record. Fiovoranti was not 'my friend'' nor was he gophering for the science crew. Another person altogether was doing that- who is a friend of mine. I have never met Fiovoranti, emailed him or spoken to him or Cures. As for 'if what you are saying is the truth' - why would it not be? What would I possibly have to gain by lying about this?

Shane - are you kidding me? There are three characters in this scene. Cures, Fiovoranti, and my particular old friend who was fetching coffee and driving for the science crew. As well as that he is a very skilled linguist and translator. That's three, not two , not one. Three. ETA - 'gophering' = Vernacular, going fer this, going fer that. An assistant who fetches and carries.

Paradigmnoia - Your the little post above is Rossi 'fake news' for sure. He has been known to do this kind of thing.

Well, they were friendly. It was AFAIK Cures who introduced DF to the Rossi group and it was Fiovoranti who initiated (but was unable to carry on with) the 'army test'. Which is something I know nothing about. But there is no way they are the same person.