me356: Photos of AURA control unit

Quote from me356

If you don't believe, you can completely ignore any related posts.

If one believe, it is enough. And one can do everything. Blessed are those who have not seen and believed.

Thank you for engaging again. Many of us are interested, but not in personal philosophies or belief. We are interested in objective empirical data and testing. After AR, we are not interested in excuses for why proper tests are not done by people making bold claims. Your willingness to allow testing by MFMP is probably your last shot at convincing many people here. That said, I do believe you have very impressive technical skills. So, please let this go through an objective test so that you can use your skills for other purposes if you are wrong. Let this go forward and if it turns out you are wrong, acknowledge it and move on. That's my unsolicited advice.

Friends.

That is the true, me356, after looking for information about LENR in internet sharing sites like this, find something then choose to keep cards close to chess.

¿good or bad decision? i dont know. I just know, that greed is the poison for LENR researchers, after stop sharing info, they stop development. is like a curse.

is fake, that if you share info, you can not make money. here there is money for everyone.

Quote from Adrian Ashfield

I understand your current position, that sounds a bit like Rossi earlier, but that is what you have to do. I tried explaining the facts of life to some here earlier without much success. Some, like Eric Walker, would like to ban you but fortunately his powers as gatekeeper are zero.

I have no desire to ban me356! There's no reason to. I have been hoping he will keep quiet or to submit his claims to rigorous verification. Even if he ignores this wish, he is in zero danger of being banned. And my wish is not a request in this context; the other admins and mods here probably differ with me to certain extents on this whole question.

Any bans that occur here are generally carried out in consultation with the other mods. Your characterization of my position is a strawman, as it often is with you. I will link to an earlier discussion over at Vortex so that people can get a sense of your modus operandi. Jed was heroic and patient in dealing with you.

Quote from axil

The goal is to remove any calorimetry malarkeyfrom the test tha is usually used by Jed Rothwell: pressure (differential), pumping (half filled), bubbles in the steam, wet steam, and the like.

That's Rossi's malarkey, not mine. He was the one who used a pressure gauge that fails at the temperatures of his device, a flow meter on a half-empty gravity return pipe, a hidden pump, and an invisible heat exchanger. All of the malarkey was his -- not mine. It was all in Penon's report and Rossi's depositions. You seem to be blaming me for pointing out that he lied to you. Apparently you enjoy being manipulated and lied to.

That's not an implicit threat for a ban. That's a question about whether to engage in the very discussion that is taking place right now. This discussion would never arise in connection with Bob Higgins, Brian Albiston, Alan Goldsmith or Alan Smith, for example.

me356 et al:

No need to explain (but keep us informed!). A rising tide lifts all boats and a successful series of tests will boost LENR. Go for it!

'Shoulds' and 'shouldnts'' and other speculation re AURA hopefully will end with proper testing.

I look forward to that,

May,June. Not long to wait

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Quote from me356

I have spend milions on the research and expecting some return reward.

Quote from me356

I have never wanted anything from anyone.

These two statements are contradictory. If you "expect some return reward" then you do want something from someone.

Quote from me356

I never wanted to convince anybody.

Then I suggest you refrain from posting messages.

On the other hand, I will say that if your goal is not to convince people, your messages are effective. You have not convinced me of anything. I do not believe a word you say. I don't believe you have spent millions, either. Not U.S. dollars, anyway. Perhaps you mean Zimbabwe dollars.

With your attitude and messages like this I guarantee you will not get any return reward. For example, the assertion that you stopped using nickel because of patent considerations is ridiculous. That kind of nonsense will not fool anyone who understands patents and intellectual property. There are no valid patents for nickel cold fusion, and even if there were, if you have a reactor that actually works, it would be an improvement on the patents, giving you lots of additional IP to patent.

Eric being a moderate(r) is not evident to new beginners

Quote from JedRothwell

On the other hand, I will say that if your goal is not to convince people, your messages are effective. You have not convinced me of anything. I do not believe a word you say.

Let me qualify that. If this mysterious person will allow good quality, black box tests with real calorimetry, and these tests are convincing, I will immediately revise my opinion. And apologize!

I predict that will not happen.

Quote from JedRothwell

That's Rossi's malarkey, not mine. He was the one who used a pressure gauge that fails at the temperatures of his device, a flow meter on a half-empty gravity return pipe, a hidden pump, and an invisible heat exchanger. All of the malarkey was his -- not mine. It was all in Penon's report and Rossi's depositions. You seem to be blaming me for pointing out that he lied to you. Apparently you enjoy being manipulated and lied to.

Let us now go through all the problems and scam methods that Defkalion performed in their series of misadventures so that those methods can be avoided.

We might also go back to Rossi's earlier testing efforts and demos to cover misplaced thermocouples, inadequate water feed lines, bad calibration curves on thermocouples...I know there was much more where the debate went on for months...I just can't remember them all.