Bob#2: I suggest you contact a moral philosopher - any moral philosopher, even a mediocre one - and ask about your ideas about right and wrong. He/she will unquestionably tell you that you are utterly full of shit and ignorant. But I suspect you would rather revel in your smug ignorance. So never mind.
Challenge a Muslim and they will call you an imbecile.
Challenge a Buddhist and they will state you are not enlightened.
Challenge a Christian and they will state you are faithless or lost.
Challenge an atheist and they will call you ignorant and full of bullshit!
They all have their self identity tied to their respective religion's worldview and if you question that worldview, you are questioning them.
They therefore respond with emotion and insult. Kind of sad.
(I admit that I too am tied to my worldview just like anyone else, I just try not to respond with insult and emotion)
As to your "moral philosopher" point, perhaps you should investigate some as well. Perhaps one's bullshit is another's perfume?
(emphasis highlights added by me)
Moral philosophy is the branch of philosophy that contemplates what is right and wrong. It explores the nature of morality and examines how people should live their lives in relation to others.
Moral philosophy has three branches.
One branch, meta-ethics, investigates big picture questions such as, “What is morality?” “What is justice?” “Is there truth?” and “How can I justify my beliefs as better than conflicting beliefs held by others?”
Another branch of moral philosophy is normative ethics. It answers the question of what we ought to do. Normative ethics focuses on providing a framework for deciding what is right and wrong. Three common frameworks are deontology, utilitarianism, and virtue ethics.
The last branch is applied ethics. It addresses specific, practical issues of moral importance such as war and capital punishment. Applied ethics also tackles specific moral challenges that people face daily, such as whether they should lie to help a friend or co-worker. (Again, these are all right or wrong questions)
So, whether our moral focus is big picture questions, a practical framework, or applied to specific dilemmas, moral philosophy can provide the tools we need to examine and live an ethical life.
Yes, it is all tied to right and wrong, whether you agree or not. "Right and Wrong", whether ethic or moral, is pretty much determined by the society one lives in. As in much of China, it is OK to kill female babies as coveted males are socially more important. That practice is repugnant to most western societies. Therefore, 86% adoptions from China are female.
Nature does not know right or wrong.... it is man's construct. It is part of religion and philosophy.... and it changes with the seasons and cultures.
Perhaps you could highlight a part of my former post that you consider "ignorant bullshit" and include your reasoning?