IO,
I see why the mixed signals. I moved his post, from Ruby's thread to here. He complained about that, and that is what I responded to.
IO,
I see why the mixed signals. I moved his post, from Ruby's thread to here. He complained about that, and that is what I responded to.
Gosh! What a dangerous life you lead, almost as scary as being a LENR researcher.
Yes, indeed. In only a few weeks I already lost four of my lives: How do you convince a skeptic?
You did plenty of explaining yourself. What you observed was a typographic error and some misplaced blue arrows, nothing more I am certain, and from that you have constructed a whole conspiracy.
I just answered in the F&P thread: FP's experiments discussion
I made a mistake; I think you have used up 9 lives already.
AA:
Re: your comments about bureaucratic waste and inefficiency in universities -- absolutely on point. If you look at the budget of any US university or college and compare the amount spent on teaching/research vs. the amount spent on administrators, it is obscene how much we waste on bureaucratic nonsense.
How about replacing them with Robots.
For cold fusion, I don't think so. Outside a small community of enthusiasts, most scientists don't spend either time or resources examining cold fusion or LENR. Hot fusion is another story. How much should be spent on that can certainly be argued. And when if ever it will be practical can also be argued. However, unlike LENR, that the concept works can not.
Of course the community of professors and other public researchers who support the two approaches is proportional to the public funds at disposition of the respective researches. But with respect to the impact on the public imagination, which was the topic I was talking about, the money spent on cold fusion have been much more effective. For instance, I'm not aware of any movie whose story develops around the research on tokamaks and I think that F&P are much more popular of any other scientist who worked on the hot fusion field.
Anyway, when I talk about the impact on public and decision makers, I'm referring to the whole FUSION propaganda. A situation, which I tried to exemplify in this old jpeg.
The first issue (1) was published well before the CF appearance, but FUSION was the precursor of 21st Century Science and Technology, a magazine which strongly supported F&P and CF since the beginning (1a).
The magazine of the second issue is well known and the stunning message on its cover has reached millions of people in the world. Worth to notice that in the internal text (2), CF investors are mixed with the small HF initiatives which are the specific argument of the article.
(1) http://wlym.com/archive/fusion/fusion/19801111-fusion.pdf
(1a) http://wlym.com/archive/fusion/tcs/19890708-TCS.pdf
(2) http://web.mit.edu/nse/pdf/new…gazine_11-2-15_Fusion.pdf
Now please, while we may on occasion *out* one avatar to another avatar for perspective, putting a real name to an avatar, is solely at the discretion of the member.
What gives it away....?
(MARY WATCH)
"SOT"s count to date...
Scam 57
ROTFWL 14
Steorn 8
Defkalion 4
Idiot 4
Butt/Scat reference 3
Papp engine 3
Dick Smith 3
Moron 1
Letter to Elforsk CEO 1
ANGRY CAPS ...beyond count
Doing well so far, with three lines filled in, compared to two last time. Early indications show that the rate of ROTFWLing has exactly doubled - and (perhaps more predictably) anal/fecal references are up by 150%*.
Fascinating.
*When normalised to 1000 posts.
Now that is funny! True too.
We want to thumb our noses at the establishment, that's why. Rebels with a cause.
And you sure have a funny way of "wanting to see LENR become real". You have been trashing it for years now.
Well in truth, he’s been trashing all things Andrea Rossi mostly, and I am his attorney
Well in truth, he’s been trashing all things Andrea Rossi mostly, and I am his attorney
Rose,
Mary/SOT and I go back 6-7 years now. I know him well, as does he know me. What you say is true. In the early days he was all Rossi. Turns out he was right. The past few years though, he has started to transform himself into an anti-LENR crusader also. He is not quite there yet, but I see the shift. If you ask me, the reason for the shift is because he has been greatly influenced by the more rabid skeptics. It started with him "appealing to the the authority" of the likes of the infamous, and hot fusion advocate Joshua Cude, aka Popeye, aka Louis Reed.
From there, Thomas Clark, and then THHuxley, and others have had their influence on him.
Ascoli,
Your "1a link" is very interesting. For the curious; skip to the article about cold fusion, by Dr. Bostick (1989). Surprised you provided it to us believers to read, as it is very pro-CF.
Shane, do you consider THH to be an “anti-LENR crusader”?
IO,
Off hand, IMO the only ones here who fit that description (anti-LENR crusader) are Ascoli, Louis Reed, and a few others who were either were banned, or dropped off the radar.
Bostick was the first person to investigate the phenomenon Shoulders picked up on and called EVO's
Jeremy Rifkin -activist 1989 "1a link"
"Worst of all to some observers, its cheap inexhaustible energy
would let the planet support many more people than its current population
of 5.2 billion. And this, they say, would be a crowded Earth."
Presently we have 7.7 billion.. can't blame LENR for that
IO,
Off hand, IMO the only ones here who fit that description (anti-LENR crusader) are Ascoli, Louis Reed, and a few others who were either were banned, or dropped off the radar.
Ok. I’ll buy that.
This was the hoax of 2011:
Sock puppets and supporters at work.
Next in January 31, 2019.
I should not have labeled SOT an anti-LENR crusader. IMO, he is just another skeptic, but more vocal. I also agree with Bruce, in that as long as someone is polite and logical, they are welcome here...no matter their opinion on LENR.
I should not have labeled SOT an anti-LENR crusader. IMO, he is just another skeptic, but more vocal. I also agree with Bruce, in that as long as someone is polite and logical, they are welcome here...no matter their opinion on LENR.
Well, your honor,
In defense of my client,
From the outside looking in, (as I do not know SOT), I would say he has just had enough of the hype.
It seems almost weekly now, someone, somewhere iintroduces another theory of what might be happening, especially Axil,
But there is a grand total of zero progress that anyone can replicate.
It’s been over 8 years since Rossi reignighted interest and nothing has changed.
We can argue about the small victories that many claim, but collectively, they have not amounted to anything beyond a few skeptical watts.
Even the most ardent LENR supporter must have doubts, SOT is simply more vocal.
I rest my case
But there is a grand total of zero progress that anyone can replicate.
That is incorrect. You made that up. You ignore the literature and invent stuff like that.