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    Dewey Weaver wrote:

    Kevmo - You have no credibility.

    ***The more I tango with you, the more credibility I get. I didn't realize how blindfolded you were.


    IH had a paid up perpetual IP license to all major markets that it wanted. It turned out to be useless / worthless.

    ***That's because the technology only worked when Rossi was on top of the Dinosaur. They poked the bear and got the teeth. They should have focused on getting it properly tested, and a better written contract. Hell, I'm not even a lawyer and I could have written a better contract.


    You are not going to be able to rewrite any history with your tiresome swill.

    ***Neither are you. So why doncha produce evidence for your position? I was on this forum saying that Rossi & IH were likely to settle. The ONLY one saying it, and got panned for it. But guess what, IH:and Rossi settled. It's almost as if.... they were listening to ME rather than YOU, but.... nahhhhh, you work there so obviously they were listening to you and had to settle because someone spelled "Rossi" incorrectly.




    The information that we gathered in preparation for trial and subsequent documents that have been uncovered / shared with us complete the picture.

    ***Rossi alleged that IH transferred his IP. It's in those documents. You can't deny it. Rossi was ready to pursue that path by calling IH customers to the stand. That completes the picture nicely.


    Everyone gets to wait to see what happens next in that regard.

    ***Well now, it's the skeptopaths who are saying "wait & see". Now THAT is turning the tables.




    I do invite you to produce documents to back your statements - I know you cannot because they do not exist.

    ***Fascinating. If anyone should be producing documents, it's you. You WORKED for Industrial Heat. Heck, maybe you STILL work for them. Typical though, you skeptopaths require someone else to do your scutwork. Go fetch yourself.



    You're in full fabrication mode - its the Planet Rossi way. I do wish the troll pool in this place was more interesting / talented.

    ***You have more access to IH documents than I do, and yet,... here we are.... empty handed, with you arguing (fallaciously) from silence. Now THAT:is telling.

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    As a 64 year old Jewish male who lost relatives in the Holocaust, and as a proud fucking libtard, take your Nazi references and accusations and fold them five ways and shove them where the sun don't shine. Comparing the word play here to Nazism is beyond reprehensible and IMO you should be permanently banned for that.

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    woodworker wrote:

    As a 64 year old Jewish male who lost relatives in the Holocaust, and as a proud fucking libtard, take your Nazi references and accusations and fold them five ways and shove them where the sun don't shine. Comparing the word play here to Nazism is beyond reprehensible and IMO you should be permanently banned for that.

    It doesn't take long before an asshole like you calls for someone else's banning over an ANALOGY. You really don't have much going on intellectually, do you?

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    [email protected] wrote:

    Oh, then I guess it wouldn't count if I simply called you straightforward an asshole who finds it necessary to stand in where his cohort has bowed out after noticing that the target is defending himself. No, it wouldn't count IF i said that, would it? Nor would it count if I pointed out how stupid you have been on this thread, and how your integrity is called into question. What if I said that your only interest seems to be in furthering the insults that came from upthread, rather than furthering any substantial discussion? Would that be an insult to a skeptopath as dumb as you?

    If those comments were made by someone I respected, I would be both insulted and concerned. But they are coming from you, someone I don't respect at all, someone whose opinions I consider totally without value or any redeeming merit and someone who I view as a temper tantrum throwing immature child, who when they don't get their was, smear their excrement all over their face and body and threatens to not wash if off until his opponent gives him what he wants (very similar, IMO, to the fucking orange POS in the White House). So no, I don't feel insulted by anything you say -- to feel insulted would be giving you too much legitimacy as a human being.

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    woodworker wrote:

    You were definitely not the only one predicting the possibility of a settlement. IIRC, I not only discussed the possibility but also discussed possible terms, e.g., mutual walk-aways, which were the terms of the settlement.

    ***You do not recall correctly. You were all over me for suggesting that the case would be settled. You claimed to be a lawyer but flunked some easy law-question softballs thrown your way.



    And as to IH being forced to settle,

    ***Who says they were "forced" to settle? There you go again, with yet another straw argument.



    again IIRC, it was Rossi/his attorneys who indicated that they wanted to settle after opening arguments.

    ***As I pointed out upthread, there are ALWAYS offers to settle when a trial begins. ALWAYS. But you're a lawyer, you should know that. That's a big word in your case: SHOULD.



    I suspect that hearing the litany of lies that Rossi had already admitted to may have made them apprehensive about the outcome of a trial.

    ***And I suspect that when IH realized that the judge was going to consider the Third Party Report a .... uhh... Third Party Report and they called Rossi "Dr. Rossi", even Abd said that IH's attorneys were turning a different shade of white.




    As to the possibility of evidence being introduced at trial proving that IH was attempting to screw Rossi over by wrongfully sharing the IP,

    ***Who said "Introduced"??? There you go again. You did this the last time around as well, straw argument after straw argument, fallacy upon fallacy. It was enough to question your legal bona fides.



    there is absolutely no evidence of that is any of the discovery made public, especially not in Rossi's deposition.

    ***Rossi alleged that they transferred IP and he put IH's new friends on the witness list. You really ain't that bright.



    IIRC,

    ***That would evidently be a first.


    he admitted that he had no concrete evidence of such behavior (my memory could be wrong on this point,

    ***Gee it' been wrong on this case multiple times, so ... ya think?


    but I am too tired to double check).

    ***Are you really a lawyer or do you just play one on TV?


    And despite what you see on TV or in the movies, there is almost no chance of something coming up in the trial that wasn't disclosed in discovery.

    ***Yup, you got that right, but since I never argued for it, that makes your argument... yet again.... a straw argument. You really kinda suck at this legal concept / logical reasoning thing, doncha?


    That is known as trial by ambush, judges don't like it and if you try to hide something in order to surprise the other side at trial, the judge may very well rule it inadmissible.

    ***Gee, thanks for that lesson , lawyerboy. I think that was my nickname for you back then, lawyerboy.



    But I am sure you learned that in Evidence or Trial Advocacy or Civil Procedure.

    ***Here we go again with you. Yet another presumption, coupled with the desire to use your supposed legal background to intimidate your opponent. But I have nothing to fear from ..... lawyerboy.

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    Two pages filled in 4 hours for an indisputable subject!


    Why not just wait for the first 10 AR customers that will use 1000's of SK's?


    But waiting is boring. Working even more, but I prefer the later one.


    Just for fun I sometimes hope to get some news about the unbelievable... But this thread smells like the bad air of "Trumpy Twitterage" of testosterone driven, under ground, flat ... Or just no info!

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    woodworker wrote:

    If those comments were made by someone I respected, I would be both insulted and concerned. But they are coming from you, someone I don't respect at all, someone whose opinions I consider totally without value or any redeeming merit and someone who I view as a temper tantrum throwing immature child, who when they don't get their was, smear their excrement all over their face and body and threatens to not wash if off until his opponent gives him what he wants (very similar, IMO, to the fucking orange POS in the White House). So no, I don't feel insulted by anything you say -- to feel insulted would be giving you too much legitimacy as a human being.

    This is fantastic. You're bringing POLITICS into the discussion? That practically proves that you ain't much of a lawyer, if ever you were one.

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    woodworker wrote:

    If those comments were made by someone I respected, I would be both insulted and concerned. But they are coming from you, someone I don't respect at all, someone whose opinions I consider totally without value or any redeeming merit and someone who I view as a temper tantrum throwing immature child, who when they don't get their was, smear their excrement all over their face and body and threatens to not wash if off until his opponent gives him what he wants (very similar, IMO, to the fucking orange POS in the White House). So no, I don't feel insulted by anything you say -- to feel insulted would be giving you too much legitimacy as a human being.

    When the media focuses on some loud personality and say that he doesn't deserve the media attention... it makes you wonder why they're spending attention on the person. And if there are comments from someone you don't respect why bother responding to them? It simply begs the question.



    Was it you upthread that criticized Rossi for not submitting to an independent third party test, and I posted the results of that TIP report? Post#659

    Rossi E-Cat SK Demo Discussion


    Notice that you didn't turn around and say , "gee, he really DID submit to a black box independent 3rd party test". Instead, you blithely go on in your skeptopathism. Why? Is there no educating you?

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    Oy vey. I unleashed a monster. This thread is a free for all zone...up to a point. So how about we eliminate outright cursing like the F bomb for sure, and anything that ends, with "hole", starts with an "sh", or for that matter, anything the over active, sinister side of your brain, can think of?


    Kevmo IMO, has introduced some sorely needed defense to the pro-Rossi side of this discussion. He says some good things, yet it is being lost in the verbiage.

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    Oh gosh, you had to ask me that! :) IMO, if you get beyond his prickly nature, he is a very smart guy. I respectfully disagree with him in almost everything he says about the IH/Rossi lawsuit, and Doral. But he makes some provocative, and poignant observations about Rossi that make me think.


    Is that enough?

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    Dewey Weaver wrote:

    Shane D - KevMo is a factless feckless hurler of Rossi lie bombs. What has he stated that can be backed up by a speck of truth?

    Then go ahead and dispute my posts, point by point, lawyerboy. Why don't you start with that post to you about the independent 3rd party report?



    You seem incapable of putting together more than 2 sentences without resorting to a logical fallacy. That makes YOU the feckless one, since you claim to be the... uh... legal expert around here, and yet you're exhibiting freshman level fallacies, lawyerboy.

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    One of us will have to buy the other

    a drink someday R67.

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    I am putting this here rather than in the toxic waste dump (congratulations on allowing that to develop.)


    Shane said over there referring to the kev person: “IMO, if you get beyond his prickly nature, he is a very smart guy.”


    I am genuinely sad to hear you say that. That’s all I’ll say about it.

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    It has always been toxic. What did kevmo change? At one time or another, many who ventured there, were at first deemed too radical because they were strangers, but after a time accepted. You yourself were controversial at first, and now one of the regulars. Same goes for Adrian...who we all miss now. Give it a little time, and so will he be accepted...hopefully.


    Like I said, get beyond his abrupt style, which many here have, and he is no different from any Rossi defender, or skeptic.

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    Well, let's just keep in mind this little gem, shall we? Blast from the past.



    interested observer wrote:


    How many times has the Pons-Fleischmann Anomalous Heating Event been replicated in peer reviewed journals?


    I can assure you that my comments on this forum are not moving science in any direction, nor are they intended to, nor could they. As for your comments, they are the usual bizzaro world stuff I have seen for 6 years from people who are so obsessed with LENR that they consider anyone who doesn't share their beliefs to be bad people. It is no wonder that LENR fandom is often described as a religion and a fanatical one at that. Talk about pathological behavior! I do wonder whether outside the LENR temple folks who act the way you do are normal people. I suppose I will never know.

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    Forty-Two wrote:

    Please, in case someone wants to discuss POLITICS with Kevmo, go and choose from here

    https://disqus.com/by/disqus_vbSJFZ4cDj/?

    one of the blogs frequented by him.

    That ones are better suited for such discussions than LENR-forum.

    You're sorta doxing me out of context. What I said was "This is fantastic. You're bringing POLITICS into the discussion? That practically proves that you ain't much of a lawyer, if ever you were one."

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    "Tell me one last thing," said X. "Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?"

    Y beamed at him, and his voice sounded loud and strong in X's ears even though the bright mist was descending again, obscuring his figure.

    "Of course it is happening inside your head, X, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"

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    There are 32 posts above this one, removed from the Rossi-SK thread as (variously) off topic, insulting, irrelevant etc. There are some in there that are relatively harmless but included in order to attempt the creation of some kind of continuity . Some other posts which would fit into the 'bad' categories listed above have been left in place, in order to show something of the cat-fight that goes on when perfectly reasonable people are let off the leash.


    ETA- now 34.

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    Alan Smith wrote:

    There are 32 posts above this one, removed from the Rossi-SK thread as (variously) off topic, insulting, irrelevant etc. There are some in there that are relatively harmless but included in order to attempt the creation of some kind of continuity . Some other posts which would fit into the 'bad' categories listed above have been left in place, in order to show something of the cat-fight that goes on when perfectly reasonable people are let off the leash.


    ETA- now 34.

    When you shunt the response but leave the original insult, it looks like the one side had no response.