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NO Jed as we have a long history including being in business together I can testify with absolute confidence that you are a self serving backstabbing jerk of nearly uncomparable [sic]disgust, anyone who pays attention to anything you say is a fool beyond measure. You should really get some mental health treatment for your years of being a petulant groupie... however I very much doubt that for an old dog like you there is any hope.

To Admins: what would happen to them and to the post should a hapless forum participant, other than Mr. George, post such baseless invective and ad hom ?

Bash them with a pot, then a kettle?

and the beatings will continue until moral improves.

Note that *I* was not the one who started the insults.

ITs a genetic thing

RussG has nuclear reactions in his DNA

http://atom-ecology.russgeorge.net/2013/05/04/nuclear-genes/

Lead shielding is useful

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In between the roof venting, and mezzanine heat exchanger excuses as to where the heat went, there was the endothermic process of making the customer's product (only to find later on he was the customer). Originally on JONP, he claimed making the product sucked up all 1MW, then several months after the settlement, he had this to say about it in Lewan's interview:

So you invented the technology used by JM?

“Yes, I made all the technology, I invented their production plant, and I made the plant.”

Can you describe the technology?

“We produced substances with a very high added value. To do this we had to achieve an extremely high pressure inside small reactors that were introduced in larger tubes. The concept was to provoke contractions in certain materials, using heat exchange with the hot steam [from the E-Cat plant] and a pressure of a few bars but concentrating the force from the pressure on a larger surface, a few cm², on much, much smaller surfaces, increasing the pressure proportionally. And this process consumed heat.“

How much of the heat from the E-Cat did this process consume?

“On average it consumed between 20 and 40 percent of the heat produced by the E-Cat plant. I had to learn from the experiment how much heat was necessary, because there were not any precedent analogous experiments to get data from.“

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And every one of those statements about what was there and what was done was a absolute fing lie. There was never a JM customer; there was never a process where anything used the alleged heat; there was never a process to produce anything.

"Yes, I made all the technology, I invented their production plant, and I made the plant." How the hell do IHFB, Axil, Kevmo, steppenwolf, Samwise or any other Rossi suck up defend these statements, What fing production technology did Rossi invent, what production plant did he invent and make? What happened to all the "product" made from this new technology at this new plant -- oh wait there was never any fing product. How do the acolytes defend any of this and still believe that they, or Rossi, retain even the smallest iota of credibility, or integrity?

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Language please!

I apologize to all for my intemperate language, both on this thread and the others. It is just that absolute lying, and the defenses thereof, really make me sad.

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I apologize to all for my intemperate language, both on this thread and the others.

Just remove the "fucking" and you are in the temperate zone. I see nothing intemperate about the rest.

(I do not like that word, and I wish people would stop using it. I especially don't like it in the original sense of "sexual intercourse," because it derives from the German meaning "hit." I don't like that nuance. The word has a harsh Teutonic metallic crashing sound, a bit like "Hitler.")

And as Director knows, you can leave here many times, but it is hard to stay away for long.

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We rehash Rossi because he is still an ongoing story. We don't need to rehash FP's, because that is settled science.

Rossi took inspiration from F&P. His ongoing story is just the natural continuation of that of F&P. IMO, you avoid rehashing F&P because you have no argument to rebut the criticisms on their claims.

Sorry to say, Shane, but by preventing any discussion on this topic, L-F resembles the ECW of F&P.

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If you want to take on another challenge for the upcoming 30th anniversary, you might try and help us convince IHFB, and Steppenwolf/JTomas that the mezzanine heat exchanger did not exist.

I'm not going to waste time convincing people that Rossi was wrong. No need to do that. He had no credibility since his first appearance in the field. All the credibility for the Ecat results was provided by some European professors and by most of the experts in the LENR field. I only spent my time in debunking those Ecat tests in which UniBo was somehow officially involved, that is, until the end of 2011. After that date, the Ecat affair remained only a business and political issue.

In any case, the upcoming 30^th anniversary deals with F&P, not Rossi and his farces. The only challenge that makes sense in this weeks is to reach a deeper understanding of their experimental results and possibly a broader agreement on the reality of their claims.

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This is my last post here on Lenr Forum.

I once heard someone say, "I have been in five car accidents in the last year, and not a single one was my fault!" I thought, "that's statistically impossible."

When your business arrangements end in a shambles; you leave discussion groups in a huff; and when your friends become enemies, it is probably your fault, not theirs.

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There is broad agreement that their results are sound.

As always, with the caveat: there is broad agreement among people who have read the literature and who understand the experiments. There is no broad agreement in the larger scientific community, but their views do not count, because they have not read the literature.

That is true of all scientific claims, but in other fields you don't have to add this caveat. People take it for granted that a particle physicist cannot write a professional critique of neural network artificial intelligence, or vice versa. I do not understand why the DoE and Scientific American assume that plasma physicists are qualified to critique calorimetry and electrochemistry. I get that the claim is fusion, and plasma physicists do fusion. But it is not the same kind of fusion, with the same rules, investigated with the same instruments.

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Just remove the "fucking" and you are in the temperate zone. I see nothing intemperate about the rest.

(I do not like that word, and I wish people would stop using it. I especially don't like it in the original sense of "sexual intercourse," because it derives from the German meaning "hit." I don't like that nuance. The word has a harsh Teutonic metallic crashing sound, a bit like "Hitler.")

will do going forward. My bad.

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There is broad agreement that their results are sound.

"broad" is a weasel-word but aside from that, if the evidence pointed to a likelihood of a new source of plentiful and cheap energy, entrepreneurs would be all over it like... well, you know.

Jed and RussG

I guess there's no chance of kiss and makeup soon.

why not an NDA.. nuclear disarmament agreement.