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  • Might sound bad, but I hope, Rossi dies quickly.





  • One must try to help me with the math.


    1) Gamma ray detector =... let us assume, 1000$ max

    ***Training. Let us assume $5k min.


    2) Passport ??? In know a country, where an express processing would cost You 160 $

    ***It cost me $500 last time.


    3) Assuming visa ... max 100 $

    ***Assuming I'll get pulled in by customs, $500 or maybe even far more.


    4) Assuming flight, economy.

    ***Assume first class becaause I'm worth it. $5k.


    Cheapest available ,

    ***No thanks. I'd rather just give the money to someone else if they do the video. This whole construct is to address those who are willing but don't have the resources, and naturally you're assuming that we should just grovel for those resources. Wouldn't you really rather just have a Londoner drive on up and do the task?



    from , just assumed, Los Angeles to London, from July 12th to 14th, just right now searched on swoodoo, was about 630 dollars

    ***Assume I will be charging all kinds of yummie food for the trip. $1k minimum.


    5) Renting a professional camera equipment for one weekend: Assume 2000 dollars.

    ***Been there, done that. Assume $15k.


    6) Hotel in London, just searched NOW, on trivago: Apex Temple court 500 dollar.

    ***Just searched higher end hotel. Assume $5k for the trip.


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    A little bit of spending: additional 500 dollar.

    = 1000 + 160 + 100 + 630 + 2000 + 500 = 4390 ( if YOU ARE REALLY into luxury )

    ...compared to what ? 100K ? 100.000 dollars ?

    ***I did a first pass run at $35k with that "little bit of spending more suitable". Wouldn't you really rather have a Londoner? Naturally, projects tend to run over-budget. I'm willing to negotiate.




    ...or the reduced amount, 50.000 dollars.

    ***Or, the Londoner at 5 pounds.


    Forgive me my mimicry, but "something does not add up"...

    ***Forgive me for the tall ask on the outset of negotiations. We're getting used to that here in America now that we have a president who's going to get Mexico to pay for the wall.


    You neglect the possibility of me sending you 50 pounds so you can cart up your experiment and bring it over here so I can take my $1k Geiger counter and pass it over your cell. I'm sure you'll enjoy flying out from London at economy class, since that is what you suggested was suitable.


    Now that we're past the stage where we are engaging mimicry at each other, the issue of who's willing to bell the cat is still standing. I'm willing to bell the cat. Where's your $5pound Londoner? Shouldn't they be done with this task already? Like this guy did for the NANOR.

    Cold Fusion/ LENR device at M.I.T. - YouTube

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    Jun 9, 2013 - Uploaded by Seamus

    Here's a video of a Cold Fusion/ LENR device called the NANOR at M.I.T. It is a small, low temperature ...

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    If money is the issue then I'm already working on that. It only took me a few keystrokes to get started with the GoFundMe thing, and I can say unequivocally that it's a relatively painless process that doesn't take much time. So... there's that removal of excuses thing going on right there.


    Those are the elements of what it takes to bell the cat: Willingness, time, capability, wherewithal. Those who have the time and willingness are low on capability and wherewithal. Those who have the capabilty and wherewithal are low on willingness and time. Most of us can develop capability and wherewithal, but we can't really develop willingness and freed time .

  • JohnyFive : I think that would be a favour to the whole field. Your wish is granted, and your attempts at deception remembered..


    His parting words reinforced my opinion of him as a hypocrite. He was anything but open, while demanding it of others. He was very much the deceiver, and enjoyed wasting a lot of peoples time, who trusted him at his word, and tried to replicate him. IMO, he was a "scientist want to be", or "groupie" for a better term, and got his thrills fooling those with talents he lacked.


    Good riddance.



  • Just some search results:


    https://www.ebay.com/bhp/gamma-radiation-detector



    - first class ?
    Because You are worth it ? Explain that to the funders.... as well as 15k for a "professional" camera equipment... for one day ?
    What are You trying to achieve ???
    Also, what about that hotel, I chose ?

    If You were worth even the half.... we in here would have already noticed it.

    No, this sounds like pure scam, like just looking for investors, which are easy to rob ( like Rossi does )...

  • Because You are worth it ? Explain that to the funders.... as well as 15k for a "professional" camera equipment... for one day ?


    I know little about video cameras, but I just looked up professional models. You can buy one for $10,000: Panasonic AJ-PX380 P2 HD AVC-Ultra Camcorder. For $15,000 for one day I guess you would hire a Hollywood movie camera and an operator.


    For anonymous person on the internet, kevmolenr sure does go first class!

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    How about using the GFM to raise cash for another project - and we could give this maximum publicity on the internet with a no-holds barred attitude - to build a cold-fusion answer to ITER and call it ICFER (International Cold Fusion Experimental Reactor) with a 25 Kg reactor core consisting of transition metal powders of Ti, Ni, Fe, Mn, Cu + Li suspended on mixed crystalline (tetragonal) oxides MnO2, ZrO2 and the Rydberg Matter catalyst KFeO2. In addition a 10% mix of pyro electric tourmaline crystal to fire up electrostatic fusion reactions with delta T. Fusion fuel: the added Li powder + deuterium/hydrogen gas generated from D2O/H2O or just pure deuterium. Triggering mechanisms (if necessary) high voltage discharge and, laser irradiation in the THz range. An expensive shopping list to be sure but we could then monitor gammas to our hearts content - and do the video in a step-by-step way starting from the initial purchase of a rusty old research reactor large enough to hold the core and add on bits to funnel in laser light and voltage discharge. Mix all the powders/crystal in a 50-litre steel drum on a vibrating stage to ensure even distribution of catalysts. The whole operation could be done underground in a disused tin mine here in Cornwall and any other LENR enthusiasts who might like a (working) holiday could join in the fun!

  • For anonymous person on the internet, kevmolenr sure does go first class!

    Yup. First class. No need to start negotiations at economy class. Don't forget how we'd need first class video editing software and video director, to start negotiations off with.


    But the unsubtle hint is that the invitation to test has been rescinded. Someone else is gonna have to bell the cat.


    There was a time when high performance cam manufacturers would not sell their cams to airplane mechanics because they were afraid of the liability issues associated with sticking those high end cams in airplane engines. So the aircraft mechanics resorted to saying the cams were for swamp boats in the Florida Everglades.


    If a gamma ray spectrometer company found out that its device was going to be used to verify gamma rays at a cold fusion cell, their marketing department would have a heart attack. It would be an "obvious" error to find gamma rays in such a cell. So you bring in another spectograph, then another.... And let's say that the top 5 gamma spectrometer manufacturers had a head to head competition how many of them would acknowledge that gammas were detected by their devices and used properly? For such a simple task as measuring gammas, one can see that just having acceptable equipment that everyone acknowledges as working properly would start to cost quite a bit of dough, well more than that $100k I was supposing , after all the lawsuits are ironed out.


    Oh well, I'm still willing to bell this cat. Gamma rays are the key.

  • If a gamma ray spectrometer company found out that its device was going to be used to verify gamma rays at a cold fusion cell, their marketing department would have a heart attack


    Strangely enough, they are perfectly relaxed about it, they don't care where the gammas come from, any more than microscope manufacturers worry about what you're looking at.

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    Might sound bad, but I hope, Rossi dies quickly.

    Stupid and nasty thing to say. Conning people is pretty low but it does not deserve the death penalty. A criminal trial, perhaps resulting in large fines and even some prison time, would be suitable, but probably not a big priority for authorities since there are few complainants.

  • Yup. First class. No need to start negotiations at economy class. Don't forget how we'd need first class video editing software and video director, to start negotiations off with.


    But the unsubtle hint is that the invitation to test has been rescinded. Someone else is gonna have to bell the cat.


    Okay, if we are bidding this job up, I hereby offer to do it for a cool one million dollars. What do you think, Alan? I'll let you keep the video camera. Heck, you can keep the gamma detector!


    I am starting the negotiation at $1 million. Say yes today, without delay, or it goes to $2 million.

  • Strangely enough, they are perfectly relaxed about it, they don't care where the gammas come from, any more than microscope manufacturers worry about what you're looking at.

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  • kevmo,


    Going along with Jed's theme; this does not sound kosher if you were legitimately seeking $100,000 on GFM for a trip. On my first read, I was half asleep, and it did not sink in what you were saying, but now it has. Were you seriously wanting to collect that much? If so, that is pretty brazen to ask unwitting, and gullible donors to contribute.


    Just the whole idea of using GFM to fly 1st Class, stay at a luxury hotel, fine dining, then showing up at the barn with spectrometer, and video camera in hand is just crazy, and says something about the person doing the asking. So was this for real, or am I still sleeping?