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  • Can you show or explain how much

    steam should be seen coming out of

    A.R. Hose.


    Sure. Look at the link labelled "Real steam flow of 7 kg/hr" that hunter has supplied in post #2008

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    By the way, the hose you see in that link is larger in diameter than the one Rossi is using. So the exit velocity of the steam in Rossi's case should be even faster.

  • I think you are guilty of post facto gloss here. Consider: Rossi had some apparently independent tests (Ferrara) showing his stuff worked. Before they paid over dosh there was another apparently independent test with a positive report. if it worked it would be the breakthrough of the century and worth large multiples of what was paid. Rossi refused to allow proper IH hands-on validation without payment in advance of a large sum.


    This is a very good objection that arises the question why Darden et.al guaranteed Rossi such a relatively high advance and such a high total contract sum, solely on the basis of "independent tests" where the sole confirmation depends on the expertise of Fulvio Fabiani, who even then was considered to be "Rossi's engineer"?


    It is only a guess, but I think that Darden et.al did it and did not take it so seriously, because they were only marginal interested in developing LENR as a game chainging technology, but they had very high interests to convince major investors like Woodford to get involved in this project and as the correspondence between JT Vaughn and Thomas Darden shows, the ECAT project would not have been continued without Woodford's investment.


  • This is a very good objection that arises the question why Darden et.al guaranteed Rossi such a relatively high advance and such a high total contract sum, solely on the basis of "independent tests" where the sole confirmation depends on the expertise of Fulvio Fabiani, who even then was considered to be "Rossi's engineer"?


    It is only a guess, but I think that Darden et.al did it and did not take it so seriously, because they were only marginal interested in developing LENR as a game chainging technology, but they had very high interests to convince major investors like Woodford to get involved in this project and as the correspondence between JT Vaughn and Thomas Darden shows, the ECAT project would not have been continued without Woodford's investment.

    Rends,


    That is certainly possible,

    But I believe the that Rossi simply conned

    IH out of $10 million, and that this was his plan from day 1.

  • Anyone making a habit of accusing others here of being (e.g., paid) shills runs the risk of getting booted with little ado or afterthought.

    But when one of your band of anonymous Rossi haters wrote that I was a "Rossi sock puppet" (as well as many other insults), not a peep came from you.

    I give my real name, even where I live, and as confirmed by the footnote on one of my published papers (linked earlier). I have been Chief Engineer, Director of Engineering and V.P. Engineering of major companies. Unlike some of the anonymous commenters, there is proof I really exist. I joined this forum in 2014 (although I'm apparently not a "verified user." LOL)


    Another asked you why I was banned. You replied the primary reason was that anyone annoying you could expect that. It seems that anyone defending Rossi annoys you, which explains why newcomer frankl is about the only one left, making this forum rather biased. I expect he will be banned soon.


    Threads like this one are often full of repetitive insults of Rossi and biased statements made with absolutely no proof. For example, that because Rossi has started on a new E-Cat the QX will now be abandoned, despite the fact that Rossi claims it does not affect the QX production plans and new models will take a year to evaluate. So such statements are fake news.


    With my long experience I don't make statements of certainty without proof. I think details of Rossi's past are sufficiently unclear that it is foolish to jump to conclusions with such certainty. There is good reason to believe over a hundred scientists, some very well known, who have seen an E-Cat operating in demos, yet only Krivit has spoken out saying they don't work, after he had fallen out with Rossi. (To be fair I doubt that deno worked)

    Those actually present have at least as good a chance of seeing problems as bloggers who have never been near one.


    When I said I had some evidence Rossi was indeed building a factory I was dismissed as an "not a reliable witness," The opinions of those that have stated it will never happen for so long and so often will be completely worthless in the future if the QX is indeed produced, and in that event should probably leave.


    I have little interest in discussing factless opinions and usually just comment because I object to the libelous insults made. It was IH's fault if they didn't do proper due diligence before giving Rossi $millions. I know I could have checked it out quickly enough. Why didn't IH find Rossi a client in over a year, forcing him to set up an unsatisfactory operation? Why don't you believe that the 1 MW plant was shot after a year and not suitable for commercial use? If the court case was such a slam dunk why did IH settle? Why would Rossi start the case when he must know the truth would come out in court?


    Meanwhile I wait for new facts. If you don't hear from me that will mean I have been banned again.

  • Meanwhile I wait for new facts. If you don't hear from me that will mean I have been banned again.


    You'll be banned again if you start attacking forum members. Before long the ban will be permanent. I suggest you stick to addressing questions of fact, as you have mostly done in the preceding post. And please address details people have raised, rather than repetitively asserting statements of a general nature that bear little upon points that were made earlier in the discussion.


    And, yes, if you behave like a boor, intentionally or otherwise, that will get you sent away.

  • As soon as they hired high powered technical expertise it fell apart.


    And exactly who were these "high powered technical expertise" . To me it looks like they only contracted lawyers and spinners (or are you talking about Fulvio?). The only other somewhat technical person was Murray, but he was brought in at the end, merely to help them exit the deal when it become apparent they would need to pay, ie damage control. And this happened only after they had pocketed the Woodford cash and maybe made some Chinese deal (although this is unclear). It sure as hell looks like a pump and dump thing from IH side; not about the tech , only caring about investor cash.

  • I think the whole Rossi discussion is a bit too emotional.

    Quite some people are very disappointed by him and his actions and especially the people who came to LENR because of Rossi are very involved when it comes to his person.

    I don't think that this is a discussion that will lead anywhere.

    Either he has something or he doesn't won't matter to LENR too much.

    Rossi is his own biggest enemy and even if he does have something he would be so infected with inventors disease that he could never market it in any sufficient way.

    So we should go away from Rossi as a topic and use the time more fruitful is my opinion.

  • With my long experience I don't make statements of certainty without proof...


    AA: “This tiny reactor, about 1 cm long by 0.6 cm in diameter, was shown to produce 20 Watts of heat from a negligible input of power. The Coefficient of Performance (COP) was over 500. That is to say it produced more than 500 times the power required to run it. It can also be switched on and off instantaneously, something no other reactor has been capable of, and can operate at a temperature of 2300 C.”


    AA: "The latter ended up in court as the independent referee said it passed the test but IH refused to pay the $900 million called for by the contract."


    AA: Parts of the reactor are secret so it was difficult to display everything. The measurements made were adequate to show the properties of the E-Cat QX. To ensure there was no trickery some other proprietary measurements must be made." :/:S


    http://www.delcotimes.com/opin…touted-as-energy-solution

  • Zeus,


    IF that is true, why in the name of reason did Rossi not pursue the case and guarantee his $900 million payday.

    Any judge and jury could plainly see his Ecat

    Produced 500x more energy than it used and IH owes him per the contact.


    Rossi’s lawyer would be inline for a

    $300 million fee, so he would certainly NOT agree to drop the suit if he knew the Ecat was what it was said to be.


    Does anyone, anywhere really truly believe that Rossi would turn down a guaranteed $900 million just so he could go tinker in his garage?


    The obvious answer is no.

    Rossi bailed on the lawsuit because he did not want his “invention” or lack there of, to be exposed as a sham.

  • Roseland, you're missing the point bigly, but that's probably my fault, so I've edited my post above to hopefully make it more clear.

    My opinion on the courtcase is, it was only way the Doral scam could be completed in a way the left Rossi with a plausible shred of dignity. It was likely planned from the start.

    Rossi's strategy was IMO to fling enough shit at IH (as evidenced by his alter-egos that posted similar on this forum) so that IH would start to fear a potential reputation risk, and just want it settled and over ASAP.

    There was no way Rossi could ever proceed with the amount of plain and obvious (to all sane people) perjury that took place in the pre-trail phase, and the plain and obvious (to anyone with a shred of technical nouce) fakery that took place during Doral.


  • Rossi's calculus did not include having to take the stand in Miami Federal Court. He was certain, up until curtain time, that IH would write him a check and settle.

    I remain disappointed that the R'ster chose to walk away minutes before Darden was to take the stand. The R'ster knew that he was going to be decimated and devasted

    by the truth. Living to fight another day is another specialty of his.

  • Rossi's calculus did not include having to take the stand in Miami Federal Court. He was certain, up until curtain time, that IH would write him a check and settle.

    I remain disappointed that the R'ster chose to walk away minutes before Darden was to take the stand. The R'ster knew that he was going to be decimated and devasted

    by the truth. Living to fight another day is another specialty of his.


    Can you tell us which side made the initial offer to settle?

  • It is only a guess, but I think that Darden et.al did it and did not take it so seriously, because they were only marginal interested in developing LENR as a game chainging technology, but they had very high interests to convince major investors like Woodford to get involved in this project

    What would be the point of that? Why would anyone want major investors involved in a fiasco in which people lose millions of dollar? It isn't as if Darden himself got Woodford's money. There is no motivation for Darden to convince Woodford -- or anyone else -- that a claim is true when the claim is actually false.

  • The only other somewhat technical person was Murray, but he was brought in at the end,

    No, he and others were there for a quite a while. I met them, as Murray mentioned in his deposition.


    And this happened only after they had pocketed the Woodford cash

    They did not "pocket" any cash. They themselves did not get the money. It was to be spent on R&D. It has not been. The lab was closed. If they took the money for themselves, they are in huge trouble.

  • Rossi, through his attorney, offered a walk away settlement at the moment when his side, the Plaintiff, was to call Darden to the stand as the opening witness.

    The knuckleheads who continue to speculate about the use of funds have demonstrated a spectacular cluelessness and I don't expect that to change - ever.


  • Thetruemonty,


    With the exception of the few involved in the story like Jed and Dewey, it baffles me how it does get so personal, so fast. That should not be the case, but in my 6 1/2 year tenure on the various LENR forums, it seems unavoidable. I have seen many appeals for everyone to behave, they do for awhile, but after a short hiatus they are back at each others throats. Even on non-Rossi topics, there can be some strong emotions. Not nearly so much, but it still happens as is evidenced here almost every day.


    Accepting the reality that we are polarized on each side of the Rossi saga, that Rossi will be around for a long time to come, and many of our members still believe in him, it is impractical that we avoid discussing him. All I can say is to try and keep it civil. If it gets out of hand, then that is what we have Moderators for.

  • Zeus46, the piece I wrote that you quoted, was a newspaper article for the lay public. I stand by what I wrote. The $900 million was a typo that I corrected in several places afterwards. Suffering from macular degeneration makes it increasingly difficult for me to see typos like that.

    IF that is true, why in the name of reason did Rossi not pursue the case and guarantee his $900 million payday.

    If the E-Cat works, the value of the sales license he recovered from IH is worth far, far more.

    Does anyone, anywhere really truly believe that Rossi would turn down a guaranteed $900 million just so he could go tinker in his garage?

    Yes. See above. "tinker in his garage?" Really?

    Rossi bailed on the lawsuit because he did not want his “invention” or lack there of, to be exposed as a sham.

    You have no proof of this, so this is more fake news.

    Rossi's calculus did not include having to take the stand in Miami Federal Court. He was certain, up until curtain time, that IH would write him a check and settle.

    No proof again. Do you claim to be a mind reader too?


    I will ignore the assorted implied insults to my sanity in several of the other posts.

  • He's here to brawl, and if he has his way, he'll turn this place into a mosh pit. He's either not ok with or not able to carry out polite, dispassionate discussion. This place is not the place for people spoiling for a fight, especially if they have an established history of non-contributions.

  • Rossi's strategy was IMO to fling enough shit at IH (as evidenced by his alter-egos that posted similar on this forum) so that IH would start to fear a potential reputation risk, and just want it settled and over ASAP.

    There was no way Rossi could ever proceed with the amount of plain and obvious (to all sane people) perjury that took place in the pre-trail phase, and the plain and obvious (to anyone with a shred of technical nouce) fakery that took place during Doral.


    And this for example is polite and dispassionate?

  • Thetruemonty , I also said "And, yes, if you behave like a boor, intentionally or otherwise, that will get you sent away."


    Just to reiterate, anyone here spoiling for a fight with other forum members is not welcome here. This is not the place for him. Think of a group of friendly acquaintances having a sometimes lively discussion. If a person's behavior and attitude are not compatible with that vision, his time here is limited.

  • you are right, I interpreted your post incorrectly, my bad.