It did not clearly say in the report if the results were replicated or not. Until those results were replicated or tested by someone else, I would put a "question mark" next to them them.
LINR,
Fair enough. "Question mark" it is. I wonder what the highest bidder paid for their approved European patent (pending in the US) without independent verification? Or who, other than IH, would buy such a thing?
NOT pending in US
About a strange story happened here, Ascoli65 had something to say
If Levi and Rossi speak still, it would be very interesting to hear that conversation. Probably humorous too, as an uninvolved person, of course.
If Levi and Rossi speak I would say they would be talking about the old days when Defkalion was involved. Was it not Levi who approached Rossi about engagement with Defkalion?
About a strange story happened here, Ascoli65 had something to say
I can understand Ascoli's frustration. Levi and the Swedes accepted the Lugano challenge to prove the Hotcat's merits. If overunity, they would have done their duty as save the planet types to advance a revolutionary technology. Very admirable of them.
But in order to prove the Hotcat, not only would they have to do the test , but afterwards the scientific process would also demand they defend their findings. Refuse peer review in some venue, and the report is DOA. Especially so with something so controversial as LENR, and particularly so with anything associated with Rossi.
So by not defending Lugano, they basically wasted their time and effort, along with causing a lot of commotion for nothing. Only thing it accomplished was to stir up resentment for their "here it is, bye now, and don't expect me to answer any questions" strategy.
Alan, since you know Levi, maybe you could ask him why he bothered doing Lugano at all? Even if his team's findings were correct, by their refusing to defend their report, they essentially invalidated it. That is evident now -3 full years later, as clearly no one of note takes it seriously.
Well said Shane. Why would Levi not defend his report? What is the point of preparing the report and then not fielding questions. It would be great if Alan could find out why this happened.
If I remember correctly you were a fan of Rossi and defended him steadfastly on ECN. Is this still the case? Where do you stand now on Rossi? Where do you stand now on LENR in general?
I went to rehab for that, as I said the other night. Made it through in record time. A new man now, and Rossi-free since court document 194-03.
"Where do I stand now on LENR"...well, I need to hear some solid, good news soon, or I will be looking for a new drug to get high on.
I was much of the same but gave up on Rossi a long time ago. His promises become more and more grandiose but he delivers nothing.
You do remember the whole Defkalion fiasco, don't you? It's safe to say that was the turning point of the whole saga. It became Rossi's word from then.
You do remember the whole Defkalion fiasco, don't you? It's safe to say that was the turning point of the whole saga.
Roger,
No, I do not remember DGT (Defkalion). You did not mnetion him, but I also do not know of Xanthoulis, their CEO. Nor DGT's claiming to have heated the Athens Police Academy. For that matter, I also do not know about NASA's Nelson paying them a visit and semi-endorsing their Hyperion reactor. Their moving to Vancouver, Canada, and then establishing a partnership with some college in Seattle...nope, do not know about that either.
I missed also the part where they spoofed the ICCF with their video and the pump thing. Then Prof. Kim aligning with them, and later, after DGT was disgraced, and he was hired by Cyclone Engines, and even later when IH funded him to the tune of $400,000.
Nope, I do not know this Defkalion you talk of. 
LOL!
Having a very poor long-term memory is a valuable trait in this business.
I follow both fusion( called hot fusion here) and these claims of CF/LENR which I find inconclusive at best. The next hot fusion reactor up is the Wendelstein 7 thing. This thing doesn't gain as much attention as ITER, EAST, NIF, etc because they are not trying to go for the homerun of overunity. Instead, they are apparently only trying to verify heating power, containment, and plasma generation. As these are the three most difficult items for hot fusion, this babystep approach makes sense.
Rossi is truly a genius. He can access Skype but not the internet.
Quote“We are under very strong winds and raid, with heavy flooding. Please inform on EW that I am not able to access the JoNP for the time being.
I am safe well shielded and working too, but completely insulated.
Hope and patience are necessary.In this moment Skype is working, but it comes and goes
More goes than comes”
The internet has been intermittent in many parts of Florida this last few days.
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Oh yes a lot. Also I have a plan... but my plan is more realistic:
to reach the Moon by swimming
Same tale each year.
“We are under very strong winds and raid, with heavy flooding. Please inform on EW that I am not able to access the JoNP for the time being.
I am safe well shielded and working too, but completely insulated.
Hope and patience are necessary.
In this moment Skype is working, but it comes and goes
More goes than comes”
Rossi is pretty well unique in this area in being so concerned with his day-to-day interactive communication with fans, WE, JoNP, etc. He is a showman by inclination and ability.
That fact should condition strongly any objective evaluation of his work, and I'm sure does for most observers. But, there will always be the 1% outliers, and 1% of a potentially very large interested audience in industry and academia is enough to keep things going. EW constituted the 1%, and this place has a fair number of them, so reading here you get a skewed view.
Rossi is pretty well unique in this area in being so concerned with his day-to-day interactive communication with fans, WE, JoNP, etc
That fact should condition strongly any objective evaluation of his work, and I'm sure does for most observers.
I wonder which of you has the higher daily posting rate?
Any news about all of the exciting stuff Rossi is going to show us in October? The clock is ticking.
